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Calling people who have kept their own surname or double barrelled and given their DC their maiden name as an extra middle name ....

80 replies

nappyaddict · 29/04/2012 10:45

Sorry for long title but I'm after some rather specific people Grin

Are your DC known as First Name Extra Middle Name Surname

Or are they just known as First Name DP/Hs Surname

I really really want any future DC to be known by both my surname and DPs.

DP doesn't want them to have a double-barrelled surname.

I wondered if giving them my maiden name as an extra middle name could be a compromise but would they actually be known by both names or would it just be DPs surname that they would be known by?

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SE13Mummy · 03/05/2012 22:42

As another schoolteacher I can tell you right now that regardless of whether or not you choose to hyphenate, the child will be known by the surname/s that you record in the school application form/new entrants form/equivalent.... until s/he is old enough to do his/her own thing with names! Wink

There are four children in my current class who have hyphen-free double surnames e.g. Smith Jones.

FrauGrau · 03/05/2012 18:58

As a schoolteacher I can tell you right now that unless you hyphenate, the ch will be known by first name/last name and the middle one will be lost.

scottishmummy · 03/05/2012 18:50

but middle name doesn't have status or recognition of surname
official documents will ask for forenames and surname
if you make your surname a middle name then it's not same as surname

it would end up as Child HisSurname, as surnames what school,nhs, GP will use. if you want your own name passing on then use it as a surname

why does dp not want double barreled?
will he drop his name to go for single surname?

mommybunny · 02/05/2012 13:38

DS's middle name is my maiden surname and his surname is DH's surname. My surname is often used as a firstname (especially in the US, where I'm from, although there is a famous British cyclist who has it) and I thought about giving it to DS as a firstname (again, popular in US to do that) but DH wasn't keen. DS is known as Firstname DHsurname. His nursery asked me if his name was double-barreled and I looked puzzled for a minute at the director.

Didn't go that route with DD, though gave her a middle name that has been in my family - the firstname of a grandmother and a beloved aunt who died a week after DD was born.

I had always thought when I got married I'd insist on "keeping" my name. I do use it at work, but that's because I'm a lawyer and the admin hassle of changing it after practicing for 14 years is too unbearable to contemplate. For everything else I have "taken" my DH's surname. I have since realised it is SO NOT A BIG DEAL. My family certainly never expected me to keep using "their" name (which in most cases is really only one's father's name anyway, at least in the English-speaking world). I also have 3 brothers, although none of them have sons nor are they likely to, and a couple of male cousins on my father's side who have sons. It really doesn't matter.

margerykemp · 02/05/2012 06:35

Just give them your surname.

nappyaddict · 02/05/2012 02:33

WHR I like the idea of that but I don't know of any one else who has done it.

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WhiteHairReally · 01/05/2012 20:49

As seems to be most popular on this thread, I kept my name after getting married and the children have it tucked in as an extra middle name, for all the reasons already listed.

I do have friends who gave their dd her mother's surname and their ds, their father's surname. Neatly.

RatherBeOnThePiste · 01/05/2012 20:12

We have a complicated one - mine is a double barrelled surname - DH is a single surname. I didn't change my name when we got married, but we wanted DC names to reflect us both, so they have one of mine and his.

livismum · 01/05/2012 20:05

Wasn't married to now DH when had DD1 so gave her my surname as a 2nd middle name, I also added it for as a middle name or my passport after marriage, and DD2 has it too, it's a nice name and I wanted to keep it, doesn't get used unless children are naughty and need shouting at but nice to know it's there! Grin

jandymaccomesback · 01/05/2012 15:36

Yes

nappyaddict · 01/05/2012 15:30

jandy So is he generally just known as Firstname DHsurname?

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jandymaccomesback · 01/05/2012 13:15

DS is firstname secondname mymaidenname DHsurname. When I registered him the registrar made a point of saying "the third name is not part of his surname is it, or things will be more complicated." I don't know if that means it would have to be registered as a second surname or hyphenated.
The main problem with it is that it doesn't all fit easily on some forms (28 characters in total) and some forms won't allow you to put an initial without writing the whole name.
As my parents had two girls our branch of the family name has gone, which is why I wanted it for DS.

duchesse · 01/05/2012 10:19

bilblio, that's exactly why we did it this way as well. Very unusual surname, people always ask if I'm related to a famous Shakespearian actor. Husband's surname is pretty humdrum, and quite apart from the feminist perspective I wanted to keep my interesting one.

My sister's children are now known by her surname as well as the father is a nutter not involved in their lives at all, and my other sister's children are all double-barrelled as she hasn't married either of the two fathers. My third sister is married and has dumped her surname and not even given it as a middle name to any of her children.

SooticaTheWitchesCat · 30/04/2012 11:35

I am Firstname Myname Hisname no hyphen

DD1 is Firstname Myname Hisname
DD2 is Firstname Hisname

Both girls only use DH's name at school.

I use just DH's name too at school and if we are doing something as a family but use both names at work and have that name on my bank accounts etc.

My passport is in just DH's name as my wedding book is in that name.

DD1 is the only one with both names on her passport as that is how she was registered at birth.

I'm sure some people muct find it all very confusing Wink

5madthings · 30/04/2012 11:20

mine are all double barreled, mine first then - then dps surname, they are known by their first name and the whole surname.

interstingly today i had my smear, lovely! and the nurse and i were talking about surnames and she was miffed that her son is married to his partner but she didnt take her sons name and the children have their mothers name (she also has a child from a previous relationhsip with her surname) so i assume it was done that way so all the kids have the same name. but she was really put out that her grandchildren didnt have t heir fathers name! i pointed out aht mothers often dont have the same name as their children its just down to personal choice.

bilblio · 30/04/2012 11:06

We did this.
When DD was born we weren't married, when DS was born we were, but I've kept my maiden name (cos I like it :D )

Both children have my maiden name as a middle name.
I didn't want them to be double barrelled because it's a mouthful, plus my name is unusual and people always struggle to spell it so by putting it in as a middle name they can drop it most of the time, it's only required on official forms.
They're both known as First Name, DH's Surname by everyone except my Mum, who calls them First Name, My Surname, (plus DH's surname sometimes.) But then she calls my nieces by their full names quite often too.

My reasons for doing this (other than that I like my name.)

It links my name with their's.
I've traced my family tree back 400 years, but unless my SIL gets an unplanned boy our branch of the surname is at an end.
If DD marries and changes her surname she'll still have my name (I Win! :D)

tumbleweedblowing · 30/04/2012 10:44

Ours are all

First name, middle name, my family name, DH surname.

They are all known just by DHs surname, but know they have mine too (even though I don't use it anymore) and like to have it.

It's nice to see other people have done the same though, none of our friends have.

Hassled · 30/04/2012 10:41

My DC are First Name, Middle Name, My Surname-DH'sSurname.

Your maiden name as a middle name is nice, but they wouldn't ever actually be referred to as that.

If you write the word "name" often enough it starts to look really weird.

minipie · 30/04/2012 10:38

OP

I am Firstname Middlename Mumssurname Dadssurname (no hyphens).

For the first few years of my life I was known as Firstname Mumsurname-Dadssurname (ie people hyphenated it).

However since about age 5 I have been Firstname Dadssurname. I think it just became too much hassle to use both surnames, and/or people assumed the Mumsurname was a middle name rather than another surname, because it wasn't hyphenated.

So I would say - if you want your surname to be used, you will have to either hyphenate, or agree with your DH that your surname should go last and his should go in the middle.

tethersend · 29/04/2012 22:26

Mine have:

First name+My surname as middle name+DP's surname.

MogTheForgetfulCat · 29/04/2012 22:16

MY DSs are all

FirstName MiddleName MySurnameAsMiddleName DH'sSurname

This is because I wanted my name in there (it is quite unusual, and sooooo much cooler than DH's - I still sometimes wish we had all taken my surname) but really don't like double-barrelled surnames, although our 2 sound pretty good together.

My experience has been that as the second middle name is obviously a surname (it's not e.g. Cameron, that could be a surname or a Christian name), people routinely assume that it is, in fact, a surname and that it should be double-barrelled. I have given up trying to tell DS2's pre-school that it isn't Grin.

duchesse · 29/04/2012 21:59

I'm First name [myownname]
DH is First name [hisownname]
The children are first name, second name, myownname, [hisownname]

thegreylady · 29/04/2012 21:46

My d-i-l kept her own surname and both dc have that name as an extra middle name.They are known by their first name and their father's surname.

motherinferior · 29/04/2012 21:17

They have very, very long names, it should be added. Their father's surname is Bengali and six letters: mine is Swedish and nine.

motherinferior · 29/04/2012 21:16

My children have two surnames - which are not hyphenated, though some people do hyphenate them and I don't mind: they are First Name Second Name First surname Second surname.

Their first surname is their father's; their second is mine. We are not married, although obviously I wouldn't contemplate changing my surname even if we were.