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Is Alfie really a no no for a birth certificate?

59 replies

bytheMoonlight · 21/02/2012 19:47

Because I really like it but really dislike Alfred?

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manicinsomniac · 22/02/2012 16:21

Well it wasn't a no no for the 5478 parent/s who put Alfie on the birth certificate in 2010 alone!

I prefer Alfie to Alfred.

welovesausagedogs · 22/02/2012 13:19

I think you do what you like, to be honest most people know are using so called nicknames and full names on birth certificates and i think it much more moden to do so. For instance my son is called Herbie and thats what i put on the birth certificate not "herbert" because to be honest i don't like it, sound too old fashioned. At DS nursery there is a Lottie, Charlie, Rosie, Lily etc and none of them have the full names on birth certificate. The names have been shortened and adapted to make them modern, so unless you like your children to have very traditional names then stick with the modern version Alfie (it's not a nick-name).

survivingwinter · 22/02/2012 13:08

I initially registered my ds with his nn which he is always called but it just didn't feel right. I then re-registered him with the full name which he is sometimes called at school (and when I'm cross with him for effect!).

I'm pleased I gave him the full name in the end - it does give him options when he's older.

FWIW I like Alfie although I agree, Alfred isn't quite so appealing!

rachel234 · 22/02/2012 12:24

I much prefer Alfred over Alfie.

But thankfully we all have different tastes Smile.

south345 · 22/02/2012 11:58

My Son is Oliver Alfie he was going to be Alfie not a family name just one I liked but we do call him ollie half the time!

Stellan · 22/02/2012 11:57

Not entirely sure how you can REALLY like Alfie but REALLY dislike Alfred. They're practically the same so I can't really see why you would have such strong feelings about one.

Montsti · 22/02/2012 06:59

Personally I prefer longer names on BCs but that's just me....it does give more options when the child is older...I wouldn't go with a "full" name I didn't like though...so think it's better you go with Alfie rather than Alfred in this case...Alfred does give more NNS though - Alf/Alfie/Fred/Freddie...

I do agree with some other posters though in that Alfie has become more of a name than a nn...a la Charlie/Freddie/Archie etc...

Good luck!

CaoNiMa · 22/02/2012 04:45

Alfie is the name of choice for teenage mums in my home town.

snicksnack · 22/02/2012 03:55

I don't know any Alfie's
If you like it then go with it
I think it is ridiculous to put a longer version of a name on the birth certificate if you have no intention of using it yourself. Giving the child options later is nonsensical. Its like saying you need to come up with lots of names n the birth certificatw in case they don't like their name at all. If they don't like the name you have given them they can shorten it, 'Alf' or go with a longer version, 'Alfred', or a derivative, 'Al/Ali' whether or not it's on their birth certificate.
The reality is they may well get a nickname at school which then replaces the name you have given them for the rest of their life.

SlinkingOutsideInFrocks · 22/02/2012 03:25

Seriously?

You can't come up with anything better than Alfie?

ThePoorMansBeckySharp · 22/02/2012 01:35

Honestly? Anything but Alfie. It is sooo faddish and is already sounding REALLY dated.

BackforGood · 21/02/2012 23:35

I wouldn't, for the simple reason that there are millions of Alfies around nowadays (I visit Nurseries on a regular basis). If you don't mind it being a very popluar name, then I'd have no problem putting 'Alfie' on a birth certificate. I don't think this applies to all shortened names, but think Alfie is a bit like Katie - it's sort of become a name in it's own right.

Dee03 · 21/02/2012 23:24

My nephew is Alfie and I know another..I like the name just as it is Smile

ChocolateIsAFoodGroup · 21/02/2012 22:01

My Jack is Jack [shrug] and my Margot is just that and not Margaret.... I say at least I'm giving them something to talk to their therapist about when their older!

Grin

Your child, your choice!

tammytoby · 21/02/2012 21:46

I also think that most people would expect an Alfie to be an Alfred, just like most Steves are Stevens and most Mikes are Michaels.

specialgun · 21/02/2012 21:35

I think it's quite common for children to decide to call themselves by their full name if their parents always shortened their name. I personally think it's nice for them to have that option. I know an Alfie who has become an Alfred, a lottie and Charley who have gone back to Charlotte and a Lollie who decided she wanted to be Laura.

clam · 21/02/2012 21:27

Sorry to say this, but Alfie = naughty in every school I've taught in. Blush

tammytoby · 21/02/2012 21:09

I'm really not keen on cute -ie type names for little boys and agree that the Alfie/Archie type names have been overdone and will probably date quite badly.

I personally really like Alfred as well as Frederick - both are solid, classic, strong sounding names.

othersideofchannel · 21/02/2012 21:02

I think the current trend for cutey type nicknames - Alfie/Archie/Bertie etc - is already coming to an end as people look for more 'solid' names imo. These names are therefore going to be typical 2010s type names and will date badly.

If you don't like the nickname of Alfred (Alfie) I'd avoid the name altogether.

brandysoakedbitch · 21/02/2012 20:59

It is an awful name and gives no option for them when they are older. It is very popular at the moment and will date very quickly, what if he grows up and wants to have a serious job???? Alfie?? awful urchin name and not the name of a Barrister or someone with any gravitas

jellybeans · 21/02/2012 20:55

The vast majority are just Alfie on BC if you look at the stats. I don't really like 'ie' names for boys but I would just use the name you intend on BC. It's abit confusing otherwise and kids may tease when older if name is old fashioned (Archibald etc). I see most nn names as 'short forms' and not nn. Nn to me is Shaz, Dazza, Loz etc and not just literally a short version.

TheSinglePringle · 21/02/2012 20:54

I like the name Alfie on its own and I dont see it as a nick name as in this case it isnt short for anything its jus Alfie. I don't hear the name Alfie and think this is short for Alfred

Coconutty · 21/02/2012 20:53

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mamabex · 21/02/2012 20:49

It's entirely your call. I personally love it and what ever name you bless your child with suit him and grow with him. Dont name your child with the thought of form filling for the rest of his life! We named our third child Queenie as we both loved the name but it created a divide amongst our extended families but it was our choice and she most certainly is a Queenie! Point is, you have the say so make sure it is your say and no-one elses.

oikopolis · 21/02/2012 20:33

i think it's dreadful, sorry. And it will date incredibly quickly. Nicknames-as-full-names are uber trendy right now and Alfie will be the Wayne/Jayden/etc of the 2010s.

i wouldn't name a child a nickname when i hate the full name in any case. People are going to ask him if he's an Alfred fairly frequently when it comes to things like filling in forms and so on.

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