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Proper Names v Nicknames

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jaffacakehips · 11/01/2012 21:55

I really love the name Kit for a boy, not Christopher or Christan but just plain Kit.

My concern is it's not a proper name in it's own right. Like Harry, Archie or Charlie.

I don't want to give him a name which may harm any future chances he may have (a long way off I know Grin) I know a few small boys called Jesse, Milo or Woody but no adults, so unable to judge.

IYO do you think nicknames as full names hold children back..? Or is just a load of total fucking bollocks! Hmm Confused

N.B - Disclaimer: Using above names as an examples don't have an issues with these names Smile

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notso · 13/01/2012 10:43

I have a diminutive name, though I think it is often used as a proper name now when I was growing up everyone who had it apart from me had the longer version and I hated people asking if my 'real' name was XYZ rather than X.
I have never wished for any other options my name is my name.
I really don't see how it can have that much of an impact on a future career. I understand that their are going to be a minority of stuffy people who may look down on someone because of their name but they are just as likely to look down on other factors as well such as school, university or address. There are just far too many factors, for a name to be such a major issue.

jaffacakehips · 13/01/2012 10:03

Apologies it would appear my post wasn't clear ie I didn't word it correctly.

IMO - names like...Archie, Harry and Charlie have become very popular in their own right as full names. I know several boys who are not Henry, Archibald and Charles but given instead the nn as a full name.

I know Jesse, Milo etc are proper names. What I meant to say was: Do you think having a name like Jesse or Milo would hold a child back. I was trying, very badly I must add to link Kit in with Jesse and Milo. Anyho...Oil put it much better than me Blush Envy Yes, we can all crow about how people shouldn't be so prejudiced, but the fact is there are prejudiced people everywhere, so why not minimize any chance of your child being sniffed at by a wannabe toff with an attitude problem and an HR role? That what I was trying to get at.....whoops clear at mud. {hangs head in shame and walks away dragging one foot behind me}

CinnamonStar good point.

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catinboots · 13/01/2012 02:40

Harry, Archie and Charlie are all nicknames!! I love Kit short for Christopher BTW

nooka · 13/01/2012 01:57

I don't think that you can reverse engineer short forms into long forms if the long form doesn't belong to you IYSWIM. Except as much as anyone can change their name that is.

My nn from family begins with a different letter than my full name, and they always used that initial. I always used my full name at school though.

The closest equivalent to Kit/Christopher I can think of off hand is Bob/Robert, and the Bobs I know do use R not B.

Haribojoe · 12/01/2012 20:14

All of mine have got "proper" or full names on birth certificates but have always been know by their shortened NN.

Some people have told they think it's silly to give them names I might never use but I like the idea that they have options of what they want to be called as they got older.

Rightly or wrongly the whole judging factor also crossed my mind when naming them as rightly or wrongly it's a fact that often people will look at application forms etc and make assumptions based on their names.

CinnamonStar · 12/01/2012 20:05

I've always wondered - if your real name is a so-called "nickname" type name, what is to stop you using the full name as your nickname/given name even if it isn't on your birth certificate. Eg surely someone called Alfie can call himself Alfred as his nickname if he wants to, just as much as someone called Alfred could call himself Alfie. Can't they? Confused

hugebump3 · 12/01/2012 19:53

I also think people will soon tire of the currently trendy cutesy nicknames - Alfie, Archie, Ellie, Evie, Charlie, Poppy etc. and it will be nice for the child/teenager/adult to have a more solid proper name to fall back on imo.

Good point about the initial, jellybeans. Becomes an issue when you start labelling school/sports kit.

oikopolis · 12/01/2012 19:34

Jesse and Milo aren't nicknames, no.

Also Archie, Harry and Charlie are definitely nicknames, not "proper" names.

I think naming a child with a nickname is a) unnecessarily limiting (why not give the full name, and with it a range of choices for nns?), b) makes them sound like eternal toddlers, and c) can look bad on a CV.

Yes, we can all crow about how people shouldn't be so prejudiced, but the fact is there are prejudiced people everywhere, so why not minimize any chance of your child being sniffed at by a wannabe toff with an attitude problem and an HR role?

jellybeans · 12/01/2012 19:31

The thing with Christopher/Kit though is what initial do you use? Is Christopher 'Kit' Smith C.Smith or K.smith? Doesn't it get confusing. Kristopher would maybe be better?

Montsti · 12/01/2012 16:11

I personally prefer a long full name on BC but that's just me as it's seems pretty commonplace these days to have names that might be considered as nns on BCs...

PercyFilth · 12/01/2012 16:10

Another short form of Christopher is Christy (popular in Ireland). Just saying.

I wouldn't personally want to be called Kit: as it's a noun that crops up everywhere, there's ample piss-taking potential. First-aid kit, Airfix kit, kitbag, drum kit etc etc. Get your kit off Hmm

Ephiny · 12/01/2012 15:44

Jesse and Milo aren't nicknames, as far as I know Confused.

I quite like Kit as a name in it's own right, a lot of people will assume it's a nickname though. I like Kitty for a girl as well, though might be inclined to go for Katherine as full name in that case, as it's a little bit 'cute' I guess!

candr · 12/01/2012 15:38

You may find by secondary school teachers keep using the long version anyway. I ha a friend Vikki who always got called Victoria, Chrissie was called Christine and Charlie Charlotte despite them not being their real names

bumbez · 12/01/2012 15:28

Love the name kit though smiley face

bumbez · 12/01/2012 15:26

Don't forget nicknames often come from your surname , when I was at school I was called Riggers ( from rigby) and wriggle bum. I fled to nursing school glad to escape those names but instead got called riggers of weather ( showing my age) from a tv add for wood preservative!

andypandypuddle · 12/01/2012 14:45

You cite 'Jesse' as an example? Jesse isn't a 'nickname' - it's a traditional Old Testament 'full' name?? I love Jesse

Indith · 12/01/2012 14:31

I'm a fan of "proper" names and personally wouldn't put Kit on teh birth certificate. however, that is personal preference and there isn't anything wrong with Kit. So long as you are not calling your child "satan" or "fuzzy wuzzy wobbly bear darling" then just call him whatever you want.

hugebump3 · 12/01/2012 14:27

I think Kit is a cute nickname for a boy. I would, however, give your ds a 'longer' name because, as others have said, it gives him more options later on. Being Christopher, he can choose between Kit, Chris or Christopher (or another nickname altogether Smile). Good luck!

Arwhen · 12/01/2012 14:21

I see it this way... Even if you only ever call him Kit, he might prefer a different nickname or his full name later in life. As others have said, it's all about the options.
I call my boys by their nicknames and never use the full names, but they are there if they need them. Remember it's not only about what you like, but what your son will like too.

jaffacakehips · 12/01/2012 14:07

We have a very good friend called Christopher/Chris whom we all adore, however my greatfriends DH is Christopher twat faced plonker we don't get on...i wouldn't say i hate him but he's not top of my Christmas card list totally asshole Due to this i really dislike the name Christopher. I think in all honestly i can't have a son called Kit or Kitt due to it being a shorted form of Christopher and how i view a certain person.
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jellybeans · 12/01/2012 12:45

I think Kit is fine on its own. I have a long name with several nn and it is annoying. Short seems to informal, long too formal (only used at doctors etc) and middle one bit babyish perhaps sometimes. You can't really just 'switch' if you are always called your nn, it seems weird to change to another.

I see nn as more plays on a name such as Shaz, Kaz, Daz, etc and not short forms. Short forms aren't really nn. many names have come from a different name, even names we see as proper. EG, Benjamin from Benyamin. Many names have deviated from their original. I like short forms such as Ben, Sam etc but think Alfie, Archie etc are abit cutesy so for those would use long form (well maybe not Archibald).

I would just have Kit in your case as it is a strong name, a short form of a name. It's not cutesy or informal.

nooka · 12/01/2012 05:37

I really like Kit as a nn, but I don't think it works as a name in it's own right.

I like proper names with a variety of nns.

Isthatajoke · 12/01/2012 03:13

One of our dc has a short version/nn as their full name. We didn't like the long name options, we wouldn't have used them. If they prefer the long name when they are older then I suppose they can call themselves it as a nn!! Seems silly to put a name you are not that keen on on a birth certificate with no intention of using it just in case they prefer it when they are older. They might prefer to be called something totally different anyway and think your choice of both full and nn to be terrible!!Grin

Sluttybuttons · 12/01/2012 03:09

I loved the names harry and milie but felt they werent "proper" names. I ended up calling the twins harrison and emilie. That way when they are older they can decide what they want to be called. Thats just me though :)

CheerfulYank · 12/01/2012 03:04

I prefer proper names, though I don't know why. I only liked "Sam" when DS was born, but I was completely unable to put that on the birth certificate. I just couldn't do it.

So he's Samuel, but always gets Sam unless he's in trouble. I like Samuel now, though. :)

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