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How would you pronounce this name...

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GlaikitFizzog · 25/08/2011 11:22

Aiobheann

I'm thinking like Yvonne, but not entirely sure.

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PerryCombover · 29/08/2011 01:45

ah you're with me then ken

KenDoddsDadsDog · 27/08/2011 21:36

A couple of my friend's children are Aoibhinn and one is Aiveen. They all, and my family (Armagh) pronounce it more Ayvean than anything.

SheCutOffTheirTails · 27/08/2011 20:23

:o

You should hire a PA and stand outside the City Hall in Belfast saying prayers in Irish.

PerryCombover · 27/08/2011 18:50

I worked for an Irish company and lived in UK. Our MD would say that if I spoke to the rest of the board in Irish I was like Ian Paisley...lilting I'm not

SheCutOffTheirTails · 27/08/2011 10:10

No, you did guess wrong.

-eann is a broad vowel sound, even people in Kerry can't magically transform it into a narrow vowel sound without pronouncing it wrong.

As has already been pointed out, if you want to pronounce it Ee-veen, you need to spell it Aoibhinn.

Although it is hard to imagine why anyone would choose a name as slight and ugly as that.

Perry - Ian Paisley speaking Irish - that I would like to hear :o

ragged · 26/08/2011 19:39

Evan? Have not read thread...

cjbk1 · 26/08/2011 19:38

sorry if u think i guessed wrong mrs irish speaker but in the kingdom of kerry it'd be eve-een thank you

PerryCombover · 25/08/2011 22:25

Phew..wondered if we were all mad or speaking Irish with an Ian Paisley accent perhaps

SheCutOffTheirTails · 25/08/2011 21:58

Actually WeShould is right - Aoibhinn could legitimately be pronounced Ee-veen, depending on accent.

I would pronounce that as Eev-inn, same as I pronounce the word binn like bin.

But some people would pronounce that narrow vowel sound as ee, eg. binn as been (particularly in Ulster dialect) and that is perfectly fine.

Aoibheann uses a broad vowel sound, so there is no way it can end in een.

And Perry is right too, that the broad vowel sound in Aoibheann has a particular sound to that is broader than just Even would allow. But the closest you'll get when people are speaking English is Even.

I hope you guys have some idea what I'm talking about. Irish sounds in English are hard to represent well. :) Wink

HardCheese · 25/08/2011 18:35

Thanks, SheCutOffTheirTales!

PerryCombover, 'eann' or 'ainn' is always just a neutral 'en' sound, unless there's a fada lengthening one of the vowels. So Siobhán is pronounced 'ShuvAUN' because of the síne fada on the 'a', but Aoibheann (or Aoibhinn' as it's sometimes spelled) are 'EE-ven', because t doesn't have one.

As SheCutOffTheirTales said, though, Ireland isn't immune from people inventing their own variant spellings to Irish names, especially if Irish is a dim and distant memory from their schooldays! If you actually speak it, though, the variant spellings/pronunciations become a lot weirder, because names like Aoibheann are also just ordinary words - 'Aoibheann' means beautiful or lovely, so you can't just reinvent it!

PerryCombover · 25/08/2011 18:22

ee from the Aoi and v from the bh and aan

i'm still getting eev aan

SheCutOffTheirTails · 25/08/2011 16:38

It is not correctly pronounced Ayveen, although some Irish people do mispronounce it.

The correct way to say it is Even.

Or if you spell Aoibhinn, then Eeveen/Eevin

Aoi makes a beautiful sound, but the closest in English is ee

Ayveen would be spelled Eabhaoin (or something)

Aoibheann is a standard word, there is no way to make those letters make the sound Ayveen.

wigglesrock · 25/08/2011 15:29

I thought it was Aay (to rhyme with Bay vean).

WineAndPizza · 25/08/2011 15:25

Ay veen or ee veen

I am Irish and have a couple of friends with this name

SheCutOffTheirTails · 25/08/2011 14:45

HardCheese I live in NI, so Irish names are familiar to some people but pretty alien to others.

DH is English, so in-law issues around name pronunciation.

Both my DDs have (quite rare, but not unheard of) Irish names. I picked them to be easily pronounced by non-Irish speakers.

I don't like the name Aoibheann anyway, but I would not have used a name that had the same sound as an English word. I think the child called Even is the worst part if the burden - people can learn to spell and pronounce things as long as there are no difficult sounds eg no way would I choose Cathal, although in Ireland it would be fine.

Congratulations on your pregnancy :)

PerryCombover · 25/08/2011 14:16

This is my aunt's name and she pronounces it e von or ev von
agghhhhh

HardCheese · 25/08/2011 13:54

SheCutOffTheirTails and WeShouldOPenaBar - are you both Irish people living in the UK? Have you given your children Irish names and found that there was mass pronunciation difficulties? Am Irish, pregnant with my first, but not sure whether it will grow up mostly in Ireland or in England, and that will probably have an impact on our choice of names. Would be interested to hear your experience, if relevant.

HardCheese · 25/08/2011 13:51

I'm Irish, and it's pronounced more or less exactly like 'Even'. It means 'lovely' or 'beautiful'.

GlaikitFizzog · 25/08/2011 13:16

Not burdoning a child, its the name of someone in a book I'm reading and every time is come acroos it it takes me too long to get on with reading because I try to figure out how to say it!

Thank you ladies! I knew someone here would be able to tell me!

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WeShouldOpenABar · 25/08/2011 12:45

if you want it to end een you need to change it to aoibhinn , but agree with shecutofftheirtails, everyone i know with an irish name has huge problems in the uk, even aoife which i would have thought is an easy enough one has proved problematic

SheCutOffTheirTails · 25/08/2011 12:29

It doesn't have an -een ending, it has an -en or -an ending.

In English it sounds too much like "even" to sound attractive.

Also interesting that everyone on this thread so far (other than me, and I speak Irish) has guessed wrong.

This name would be a burden to an English child. Would you call your daughter Even? It's really just a complicated way of spelling it.

BluddyMoFo · 25/08/2011 12:22

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ExitPursuedByATroll · 25/08/2011 12:19

Reminds of the Vicar of Dible joke - "Did your mother have something against consonants?"

I would have said that Eveen, or Aveen. Tis lovely, but there would be a lot of spelling it out for people - unless you live in Ireland of course.

Suncottage · 25/08/2011 12:17

It probably sounds lovely but looks like someone has dropped a load of Scrabble tiles.

PerryCombover · 25/08/2011 12:15

oops i meant ee vagn or eve von ime

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