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Is Saoirse too unusual, and are we allowed to `adapt` the pronunciation??!!

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Bex22 · 08/04/2011 22:07

Expecting DD3 end of June. We all like Saoirse but have been saying it Ser-shuh rather than Seer-shuh which I understand is the more authentic Irish pronunciation. Firstly, is it going to present numerous spelling difficulties from all sides, and secondly, does it matter that we are saying it in our own way so to speak??? The trouble is that my 4 year old DS and 2 year old DD are now big fans of this name, as said the wrong way, and I do think it is really pretty and would go well with Elizabeth which I want to use as a middle name after a favourite aunt. We are no stranger to slightly unusual names as DS is Seth and DD is Elwyn, so what do you all think?? Too weird or what??!!

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MillsAndDoom · 08/04/2011 22:45

Just pondering, do you think the pronounciation of the name has changed a little through the Irish regions, so maybe one way in Dublin, a different way in Cork and a slightly different way in Sligo - hence the slightly different sounds to the first syllable

candleshoe · 08/04/2011 22:44

I'll tell my Mum - she's been saying her name wrong all these years! Grin

MillsAndDoom · 08/04/2011 22:44

I always thought it as pronounced as candleshoe has said.

Bex22 · 08/04/2011 22:43

Anyway, HurlerontheDitch, seeing as you're from Ireland, can you clarify the possiblity of people from one end of Ireland saying Ser-sha and the other saying Seer-sha, and both of these variations being respectable alternatives?!

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reddaisy · 08/04/2011 22:43

shares not share

HurlerOnTheDitch · 08/04/2011 22:42

'Saw - shah'?? Hmm Have checked with DH and his (West of Ireland) view and my (East of Ireland) view both come out as 'Sorka'

reddaisy · 08/04/2011 22:42

Oooh I'm glad you like Orla and Scout! I LOVE them both. I can't have Orla for reasons too long to go into on here and Scout I really love as well but we have a Scarlett so I think it share too many letters for the next bump to be a Scout if it is a girl.

Orla is easily pronounced and still unusual imo.

candleshoe · 08/04/2011 22:41

That should be 'pronounce'!

Bex22 · 08/04/2011 22:40

Oh Candleshoe- rather damning article. It actually made me laugh a leetle bit, cos I don't give a monkey's whether my little cherubs climb the greasy pole or not- as long as they're happy most of the time. I can see the writer means with the examples given, but surely they're names that have been spelled a weird way rather than original names which are unusual?? And I assume the study was carried out in America from the tone???

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candleshoe · 08/04/2011 22:40

Drosophilia - re: article quoted, I simply thought it was an interesting article which related to the discussion - not necessarily my view on unusual names.

Although I do think if you spell or pronunce any name 'wrong' on purpose to be different you risk looking ignorant rather than original!

reddaisy · 08/04/2011 22:39

My name is boring and I definitely blame it for why I didn't get that promotion last year Grin

candleshoe · 08/04/2011 22:36

'Saw - shah' is correct pronounciation of Sorcha!

HurlerOnTheDitch · 08/04/2011 22:35

I really like Saoirse, but then I'm Irish and know how to pronounce it Wink.

We live in the UK and DC has an Irish name which causes some consternation. If you love the name then go for it but be prepared to have to constantly spell it/pronounce for people. And please pronounce it properly!

drosophila · 08/04/2011 22:35

Also my name is unusual and it ain't held me back in the workplace.

Bex22 · 08/04/2011 22:34

Mmm, quite like Sorcha but how exactly is is pronounced again- am I entering another Minefield???! Going to the left of the Brecon Beacons- place called Llandeilo- anyone know of anything nice to do in the vicinity bearing in mind that have a very stubborn 2 year old with a bossy 4 year old big brother and a grumpy pregnant mother- oh yes and we are dragging DH along too! Reddaisy, we liked Orla too, and I do like Scout...oh dear, too much choice for a gel!

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drosophila · 08/04/2011 22:33

Well ds 1 and 3 have as difficult to pronounce an Irish name as Saoirse but I line in London so most people are prepared for unusual names. I must admit I thought your pronunciation is correct. My little ds has a name that is pronounced dfferently in the east of Ireland than the west so you might find the same with Saoirse,

surprise · 08/04/2011 22:32

My friend called her DD this, and has so far had several comments about it sounding like "sore arse". I'd avoid it.

candleshoe · 08/04/2011 22:31

"Unusual names are a burden to children:

When your first name is Shari, you spend a lot of time spelling your name. A typical conversation with a new service provider involves a lot of time spelling my first name. Just today I ordered something that required a phone conversation. The clerk spelled my name as Sherrie, Cheri, Sherry and Scherri before I finally interrupted her and spelled my first name. She said, "Oh, you don't see it spelled like that very often."

I think about this every time I see an article about how more and more parents are choosing unique baby names. I know why these parents are choosing unusual baby names. It's not really that they want to give their child an unusual name. It's that their names are Sue or Linda or Jennifer or Tom or Mark or John. They think that by giving their children unusual names, they will help them stand out in the crowd.

What they are really doing is dooming their children to the life of a spelling bee contestant. Their children will spend their entire lives spelling and defending their names to people who are thinking, "Who would saddle this lovely young woman or nice young man with that name?"

I know because I do it all the time. Whenever I hear that a baby is names Abygayle, I cringe. Whenever I see a name I need pronounced before I can figure out the letter combination, I feel sorry for the child.

A friend did her Master's thesis on unusual names. Her research found that Riischa is less likely to be high on the corporate ladder than Rene or Reena. Jaymees is not as likely to be a partner in a law firm as James. Basically, she found that unusual names are cute on toddlers, but not in the workplace.

It's something for parents to think about before naming their children. Yes, people think it's cute that your daughter's name is a combination of both your names, but will they hire her when she graduates from college?"

Read more: technorati.com/women/article/unusual-names-are-really-a-burden/#ixzz1IyAt7a00

SecretSlattern · 08/04/2011 22:31

Was going to suggest Sorcha too, Candleshoe. Knew a little girl called Sorcha, really suited her and sounds pretty

stleger · 08/04/2011 22:30

My dd2's best friend is Sorcha. We are in Cork, and one of the acting Cusack sisters is called Sorcha. So acceptably Irish?

ConstanceFelicity · 08/04/2011 22:29

Ah well, giving girls' boys' names is pretty trendy now I guess. Though I wonder how many :o you will get on holiday here! Whereabouts are you going?

Bex22 · 08/04/2011 22:27

Yes, I read Elwyn in a Stevie Smith poem and it was pretty ambiguous on the sex of the protagonnist- realised afterwards that defo mainly a male name in good old Wales (off on hols there tomorrow)- but still love the name for a girl. We shorten it to Els most of the time, and she is a very strong character!! So we are very open-minded! Bit shocked when I realised that our beloved leader's second son is known as same though!

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reddaisy · 08/04/2011 22:26

Bex, yes I do think people would mishear it as Olivia but I figured we could just correct them. But DP says no so that has gone.

Other unusual names I like off the top of my head

  1. Viola
  2. Scout (this one is usually disliked)
  3. Dora
  4. Orla (I think this is beautiful)
candleshoe · 08/04/2011 22:24

What about Sorcha - which is pronounced Saw - shah? Sounds similar, no?

floozietoozie · 08/04/2011 22:22

I have learnt something here as I always thought it was pronounced Sor-shuh. Which I like. Not keen on Robin or Lydia. Alba is ok but I thnk Saoirse is much nicer.

Good luck with it.

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