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Is Saoirse too unusual, and are we allowed to `adapt` the pronunciation??!!

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Bex22 · 08/04/2011 22:07

Expecting DD3 end of June. We all like Saoirse but have been saying it Ser-shuh rather than Seer-shuh which I understand is the more authentic Irish pronunciation. Firstly, is it going to present numerous spelling difficulties from all sides, and secondly, does it matter that we are saying it in our own way so to speak??? The trouble is that my 4 year old DS and 2 year old DD are now big fans of this name, as said the wrong way, and I do think it is really pretty and would go well with Elizabeth which I want to use as a middle name after a favourite aunt. We are no stranger to slightly unusual names as DS is Seth and DD is Elwyn, so what do you all think?? Too weird or what??!!

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pooka · 09/04/2011 20:07

I've read the name heaps while reading the thread and keep testing myself on spelling -and STILL can't 'get' it.

It may not be off-putting to you, but I'd get sick to the back teeth of having things slept wrong, and reminding a d correcting all the time. I have fairly average name but one which has maybe 2 or 3 correct spellings and it is a pain in the neck spelling out loud whenever you have to have name taken down.

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Minione · 09/04/2011 20:02

Thinking about it, I guess it is mor Sare-sha than ser-sha! A
Anyway, it's a great name!

BluddyMoFo · 09/04/2011 19:58

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KenDoddsDadsDog · 09/04/2011 19:57

Saoirse was on my list for DD. DH felt it was still a bit up the RA so we crossed it off. If I ever have another DD I would railroad persuade him.

BobbiDazzler · 09/04/2011 19:57

God those wrap the Green flag types. How dare they be so patriotic and want to use Gaelic words to name their children, the bastards! Hmm

BobbiDazzler · 09/04/2011 19:55

There are two pronunciations of Saoirse, in my experience. Seer-sha (most common) and Sare-sha (I have heard this mainly in parts of SE Ireland).

I have never heard Ser-sha or Sor-sha.

Sorcha I have always heard pronounced as Sorrica /Surrica

Minione · 09/04/2011 19:53

This is about the only girls name dh and I can agree on
! He is Irish and pronounces it ser-sha so I believe either way is acceptable!

elah11 · 09/04/2011 13:10

I am Irish myself and have heard Saoirse pronounced as both Sehr-sha and Seer-sha, so either is correct I would think! Lovely name. As for Sorcha I have only ever heard it as Sur-u-ka, not as nice imo

spidookly · 09/04/2011 12:48

Actually thinking about it saor is definitely pronounced to sound like Sayer (as in Leo), so sehr-sha is arguably a more correct pronunciation than seer-sha.

spidookly · 09/04/2011 12:45

I don't like it either, but a little English Saoirse would seem more likely to be inspired by Saoirse Ronan than "You'll never take our Saoirse!"

I really think pronouncing it ser-sha is fine. Dublin pronunciations are not the only ones that count. Half the time they're not even right.

Bonsoir · 09/04/2011 12:12

If you pick a name that is not of your culture and mispronounce it, you look ignorant and you condemn your child to a life of people despising her! Why would you do this?

ValiumSoltera · 09/04/2011 12:10

I don't like it. Personal associations, but because it means 'freedom' the girls I knew called Saoirse all came from families that were a bit wrap the green flag round me boys. Although that may not be the case now.

I prefer Siofra or Saedhbh

spidookly · 09/04/2011 11:45

I don't really think ser-sha is wrong, I'm sure there are Irish speakers who would pronounce the word like that.

Saw-sha is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Ch in Irish is never pronounced "sh"

sorcha = surr-uh-ka

pinkgirlythoughts · 09/04/2011 11:38

Haha, Bluddy, my sister is a Chloe and has the same problem- most people know there's an h in it somewhere, so they just stick one in anywhere! Fairly understandable when she was younger and it was quite an uncommon name, but it's become so popular in recent years that I think it's amazing she still gets Christmas cards addressed to... cloe, clohe, clowee, cloie, khloe, among others!

As far as Saoirse is concerned, It's seer-sha rather than ser-sha. But then, as others have said, it can depend slightly on accent. For example, if I make an effort to say 'seer'-sha so that the first syllable rhymes with 'beer', it sort of sounds like I'm putting on a (bad) fake Irish accent, whereas if I just say it naturally, it sounds more like 'sair'-sha, so that the first syllable rhymes with 'bear.' Other accents might not distinguish so much between those two sounds, though.

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pink4ever · 09/04/2011 10:25

My 2 ds have irish names.However we couldnt agree on an irish name for dd(dh wanted roisin and I wanted Clodagh) so she has a greek name! I like the name you have chosen but she will get asked to pronouce/ spell it ALOT. Eldest ds gets this and his not that unusual-Colm.

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emeraldislander · 09/04/2011 10:09

Sorcha = Sur-ih-ka where I'm from (Wesht of the Shannon). There is a woman in my office with that name from Dublin and she pronounces it Sore-sha.

Saoirse = Seer-sha. I teach in a Catholic primary where there are many Saoirses, which to London ears should be pronounced 'Ser-sha'.It's a lovely name which means 'freedom'.

Lots of name regional variations - where I'm from Caoimhe is 'Qweeva' but up north it's 'Keeva'.

Bex22 · 08/04/2011 22:56

Thanks all, loads to think about, lovely chat!! Should have been off doing packing but addicted to all these interesting responses!! You might be hearing from me again! Have to see what beloved and boringly named husband thinks!

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HurlerOnTheDitch · 08/04/2011 22:51

x post. What MillsandDoom said

HurlerOnTheDitch · 08/04/2011 22:51

candleshoe - break it to her gently Grin

Bex - again, consulted the DH (he's from a more "Irishy" part of Ireland than me so I usually defer to him on this stuff!) and we both would say "Seer-sha". There are a lot of regional variations in the Irish language, so maybe that's where the difference arises. Coincidentally, I was talking to a friend today about "weird" Irish names and she brought up Saoirse as an example of a really tricky one (a girl in her DC's class at school). This girl pronounced it Ser-shah, which sounded odd to my ears, but I guess you wouldn't be setting a precedent.

candleshoe · 08/04/2011 22:49

Lots of other lovely Irish names on this thread!
Night night all!

candleshoe · 08/04/2011 22:48

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/baby_names/872229-I-need-some-advice-on-the-name-Sorcha/AllOnOnePage

An old MN thread on a similar topic!

Bex22 · 08/04/2011 22:46

I'm referring to Saoirse again, obv!

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