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Lily & Mohammed the real number ones

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pickler · 29/10/2010 15:06

The REAL top names are..

  1. Mohammed - 7528
  2. Oliver - 7364
  3. Jack - 7275
  4. Harry - 6332
  5. Thomas - 5857
  6. Alfie - 5565
  7. Joshua - 5531
  8. Charlie - 5530
  9. William - 5255
10. Daniel - 4670 11. James - 4549 12. George - 4383 13. Samuel - 4346 14. Jacob - 3776 15. Ethan - 3729 16. Joseph - 3677 17. Lucas - 3555 18. Jayden - 3515 19. Dylan - 3478 20. Benjamin - 3319 21. Oscar - 3219 22. Finlay - 3189 23. Lewis - 3114 24. Archie - 3085 25. Alexander - 2997
  1. LILY 5856
  2. OLIVIA 5450
  3. ISABELLE 5165
  4. RUBY 4695
  5. EMILY 4654
  6. CHLOE 4507
  7. SOPHIE 4496
  8. JESSICA 4321
  9. GRACE 4214
10. AMELIA 3692 11. EVIE 3416 12. AMY 3106 13. HOLLY 3051 14. LUCY 2921 15. ELLA 2914 16. MIA 2888 17. ISABELLA 2880 18. AVA 2856 19. CHARLOTTE 2778 20. SOPHIA 2603
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valiumskeleton · 29/10/2010 17:04

DS yes it's still useful to see them listed separately. If they weren't you wouldn't know what the most standard spelling was. I'd like to use the most accepted spelling of any name that had several different spellings.

noeyedear · 29/10/2010 17:03

I'm a teacher in a school with quite a large turkish intake. There are a lot more "Mustafa's' I've taught than Muhammeds. I think the boys names are easier to identify than the girls names, which can be cross cultural. That still doesn't explain the sheer volume of Mohammeds this year though.

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pickler · 29/10/2010 17:03

I do agree DS, but there are a few obvious ones like Isabel/Isabelle, Charlie/Charley etc.

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valiumskeleton · 29/10/2010 17:02

I am not trying to annoy you Cote, this is interesting imo, but I think there has to be a bit more to it than selective perception !

In the uk the number one name, the MOST popular name for boys is Mohammed! If you assume (fair assumption?) that none of the White/English/Scottish/WElsh/Irish/italian/polish/greek people in the UK are using the name, then it means that the name Mohammed must be almost manadatory for Muslims! I mean it's more popular than Jack within a much smaller percentage of the population.

domesticsluttery · 29/10/2010 16:57

I think the fact that it is hard to know where to draw the line is why they compile the list in the way that they do, ie each spelling as a seperate name.

For example not everyone might realise that Seán is pronounced the same as Siôn.

CoteDAzur · 29/10/2010 16:57

That is selective perception. Like noticing only the red cars after you buy one yourself. There are probably many other Muslim names around you but you don't identify them as such. Or maybe you live near devout Muslims (do you also see many head scarves?)

I know many Muslim families (mine included) and not a single Muhammed.

noeyedear · 29/10/2010 16:52

It does seem bizarre. That only includes boys and for one year to have such a large proportion of one name from one not very large proportion of the community. It's obviously not wrong, but there must be some pressure/tradition involved combined with a higher birth rate in that community.

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pickler · 29/10/2010 16:51

*France

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pickler · 29/10/2010 16:51

All the Aimees I know pronounce it Amy. We're not in Fance.

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valiumskeleton · 29/10/2010 16:47

It is though. Lots of people who are called Amy spell it Aimee. They don't say bonjour je m'appelle Ammmay.

A huge number of Muslims must be devout.

CoteDAzur · 29/10/2010 16:45

Aimee is a a French name and it is not pronounced the same as Amy at all.

CoteDAzur · 29/10/2010 16:44

I suppose because parents tend to name babies after people they find remarkable. And for parents who are devout Muslims, Mohammad is a most remarkable person.

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pickler · 29/10/2010 16:43

Was refering to your previous post, not the Mohammed one BTW!

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pickler · 29/10/2010 16:42

Exactly valium.

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valiumskeleton · 29/10/2010 16:41

Why are there so many?! Is there some sort of pressure/tradition to call at least one son Mohammed?

CoteDAzur · 29/10/2010 16:39

No, Posie, all first born Muslim boys are not called Mohammad/Muhammed.

valiumskeleton · 29/10/2010 16:39

Names pronounced the same way - I'm guessing that was the basis.

eg Isabel/Isobel/Isabelle. They are all the same really aren't they?

Amy/Aimee

Lily Lilly Lillie.

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pickler · 29/10/2010 16:36

Another MNer did the girls but she said that she followed the same principles as I, which were not to include the hyphenated names nor the short or long forms of names (Bens were not added to Benjamins).

Yes DS - very interesting but I bet not many people know that they are versions of John.

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domesticsluttery · 29/10/2010 15:37

I'd actually put money on the most popular name, if you counted up all the spellings and versions (Siôn, Sean, Ioan, Shaun, Evan, Hans, Ewan, Jack, Jan, Ivan, Johan, Jean, Gianni etc etc) is actually John

Which wouldn't make that exciting a headline! Grin

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 29/10/2010 15:28

"I'm pleased that the name of the greatest man who ever lived is so popular."

Pointless thing to write and patently untrue.

Aren't all first born Muslim boys called Muhammed?

noeyedear · 29/10/2010 15:26

And actually, looking at it, I would add Isabelle and Isabella together, making that the most polular. I wanted Isabella, but my SIL has called my niece Isabelle. I wouldn't use it because I regard them as the same name essentially.

domesticsluttery · 29/10/2010 15:26

Do you include names which are the same name in a different language?

For example would you incluse Seamus and Iago in with James?

noeyedear · 29/10/2010 15:24

Thats a point- there seem to be a lot of (i presume) polish spellings of names , like Wictoria etc in the list. I don't know if you add those together. The Metro is the bedfellow of the Daily Mail, so I suppose being that Mohammed is such an exclusively Muslim name would mean it makes a better headline than "the most common name in the UK is Paul!"

tums · 29/10/2010 15:24

There has been a lot of talk within the muslim community to have a single spelling of Muhammad.

I'm pleased that the name of the greatest man who ever lived is so popular.

Interesting that no-one has ever asked what it means?