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Skyrg · 01/09/2010 19:07

giving children names from an ethnic origin which they don't belong to? Genuinely curious here, I've never seen a problem with it, since we're gradually becoming a more and more connected world.
Plus, many names we consider English now have other origins, often French. Is that not considered an issue?

Sorry if this has been posted before, couldn't see it, and have noticed this one coming up a lot in the 'rules' thread and on others.

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bulby · 01/09/2010 20:37

It's an interesting question op. I just knew I wanted a quite old fashioned British name but with hind sight I'm not sure there is a particular reason why, that said dds name is a fairly common name across Europe albeit with different spelling.

Skyrg · 01/09/2010 20:30

I think that's a good point Maria, which is why I was wondering about easily pronounceable names being more 'acceptable'!

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marialuisa · 01/09/2010 20:27

DD's name is used in a variety of European countries but is rare in the UK and we have no links to the countries it's popular in. DH and i both have Welsh roots and whilst it's a word in Welsh it's not used as a name. Nobody has suggested it's odd that we used it or ever much commented on it but there are several frequently used girls'names that sound like it so maybe it's more to do with nmaes from other cultures sounding "weird" to British ears?

ValiumSingleton · 01/09/2010 20:23

i think it depends. I know Irish Reubens, and I know an Olwen, but Abdul or Momoko would be a bit beyond those I believe... that's just my opinion.

Skyrg · 01/09/2010 20:15

Some interesting answers! I've always sort of assumed that as long as you knew the meaning and origin (and preferably made an effort to view how the name is perceived in its local area, is it common etc), then it wasn't a problem.

I understand your point about origins and identity, but I've always felt that was what the surname was for (and perhaps the middle name if it's a family name).

I expect many people name their child without even realising the origin of the name, like Nicolas which is fairly common here but which has Greek origins.

I would have thought it was ok if it was easily pronounceable in the country the child was born in.
Eg: Sora (Japanese, means Sky)

And what about names like David and Aaron if you're not Christian or Jewish?

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BreastmilkDoesAFabLatte · 01/09/2010 19:41

I wouldn't. Names are about origins and identity, and I believe should hold significance for the parents. But then, I'm a bit tied by wanting my DCs to have names of the same origin as all the DSCs...

But each to their own. Really, I think it just requires an understanding of the meaning and heritage of the name. For example, don't call your non-Muslim girl Aisha if you're not willing to learn about Mohammed's youngest wife and what she represents for Muslims...

thereisalightanditnevergoesout · 01/09/2010 19:41

I suppose it's similar with 'made up' name - but only a few centuries ago 'Edward' was made up and now it's a traditional name. I suppose it depends upon, as morganlebuffay says, how long ago the names were adopted and if they sound like they 'fit' in with our view of 'national' names - but like you say, that's changing all the time.

Having said that, I wouldn't pick anything knowingly Welsh/Italian/Spanish/Asian/Scandinavian because I am none of those and I fear that it would be strange given the names I've already picked for my other children and/or that my child would spend his/her life explaining that no, there was no connection. It is a bit daft, though. But then you have to narrow the choice down somehow, dont you?

LynetteScavo · 01/09/2010 19:24

I have no objection...but my DM thinks you should only call a baby Astrid if it's blonde, or Jasmine if it's dark. Confused

I do think it's nice if you can find a little bit of heritage that connects to the babies name, but if not, never mind. There is no Scottish or Russian blood in my DC (although there is just about everything else) and they have Scottish and Russian middles names, just because I liked them.

BuntyPenfold · 01/09/2010 19:24

I wonder too, I was slated (a little) for suggesting Soleil as I am not French.
Why not just use Sun they said? Because it sounds like a boy I said.
So many popular names are not English in origin - Flora, Freya, Chloe, Phoebe, Ella, I could go on for hours. No one got around to answering that point.

Merle · 01/09/2010 19:21

I have this rule but when I stop to think about it I realise that my name is French, with no family connection.

morganlebuffay · 01/09/2010 19:18

Well, I suppose names are identity markers, and as such many people think that if a name is going to point towards a certain ethnicity/nationality, it might as well be the child's own. e.g. if I was proud of my Welsh roots I might be especially inclined towards the names that my Welsh family/ancestors might have had, on the other side of the coin I might not go for Alejandro or Ahmed as the child would spend his life explaining that no, he wasn't Spanish/Asian, his mum just liked the sound of the name.

True of course that many names we consider as English have other origins (although depending on how back they were adopted, they may have developed a uniquely English form). I suppose some names fit better into English than others?

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