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Names for foreign middle-class toffs

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csillus · 09/08/2010 18:33

Hello. We are Hungarians living in the UK, but to be honest we do not understand well the British class system and which names are considered posh/chav. My husband is from an old upper-class family in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, but they lost their fortune more than a century ago, and as far as I understand it, in British society we are middle-class, provided these classifications apply to foreigners too. Our surname sounds like JEZSÉNSZKY DE LUDÁNY (slightly altered). We can't decide whether to give a native Hungarian name or its English equivalent to our baby ( sex is not known yet) considering s/he will probably go to an English primary school in the Midlands. We do not want to seem too pretentious, but want too respect our heritage as well, while helping the integration of our child. Below I list our favorite names with English equivalents if any. Please, share your opinion about them. Should we use the English or the native forms?

Male:

László (Ladislaus)
Árpád
Atilla
Vazul (Basil)
Miklós (Nicholas)
Milán
Huba
Xavér (Xavier)
Hunor
Miksa (Maximilian)
Gyula (Julius)
Zoltán
Géza

Female:

Arduina
Édua
Damira
Ilona

Thanks a lot

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ValiumSingleton · 10/08/2010 16:37

Julius is a GREAT name. Tis a bit posh, but being foreign you will be able to pull it off.

i know some Hungarian people and sadly they changed their names (decades ago) from absolutely fabulous sounding names to david and Anne black..... Sad

mathanxiety · 10/08/2010 16:34

I regret not using Irish names for my DCs, so I would say go with the Hungarian names, and don't try too hard to fit in name-wise.

Lily311 · 10/08/2010 14:33

As a Hungarian myself I will be facing the same dilemma hopefully sooner rather than later- from your list I really love

Attila (with double t rather than double l), Arpad, Hunor and Milan, not keen on Xaver and Geza, the rest are nice and would make great second names.

Girls' names are tricky as I haven't heard Arduina or Damira before, I would prefer Edua but Ilona is beautiful as well.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 10/08/2010 12:49

I love Arpad, Milan (easy for everyone to pronounce and there are famous ones like Milan Kundera etc), Miklos, and Xaver.

Not sure how Huba is pronounced - if like Cuba then probably ok. If like hubba bubba, that will probably be a problem.

Also Miksa, while perfectly nice, sounds exactly like mixer (common piece of kitchen equipment, more often called blender), or short for mixamotosis

MmeLindt · 10/08/2010 12:33

Go for a Hungarian name.

We are a Scottish/German family and my DC have Scottish names, despite them being born in Germany.

The advantage of being foreign is that you can choose the name you like, and are not constricted by chav/posh ideas. No one here knows if Damira is posh or the Hungarian equivalent of Chardonnay.

László (Ladislaus) - Like
Árpád - makes me think of iPad
Atilla - no, for reasons already mentioned
Vazul (Basil) - not so keen
Miklós (Nicholas) - yes, but Miklos not Nicholas
Milán - like
Huba - no
Xavér (Xavier) - love
Hunor - no
Miksa (Maximilian) - no (but that is just me cause it sounds close to Wichser in German, which mean "wanker". Would not occur to a Brit.
Gyula (Julius) -no
Zoltán - love - despite the comic hero connotations, or perhaps because of that.
Géza

Female:

Arduina - looks pretty, how is it pronounced
Édua - sounds a bit like Eduard
Damira - like
Ilona - like

My compliments on your wonderful thread title.

truethat · 10/08/2010 12:22

Do what you most prefer - other people will just have to get used to the name and how to spell and pronounce it.

Kathleen123 · 10/08/2010 11:18

For the boys names I like

Xavér (Xavier)

For the girls names I like

Ilona

I'd keep with the hungarian name.

LaundryLyne · 10/08/2010 09:41

I like

Vazul (Basil)
Miklós (Nicholas)
Milán
Xavér (Xavier)
Miksa (Maximilian)
Gyula (Julius)
Zoltán

Arduina
Édua

nooka · 10/08/2010 05:47

I went to school with a Zoltan (I can't remember if it was his mum or his dad was from Hungarian). He was lovely :)

So I like Zoltan best. Vasul sounds so much better than Basil, I really like that too, and then probably Miklos.

Not so sure about the girls names, but that might just be because I'm not sure how to pronounce them.

mathanxiety · 10/08/2010 00:18

László (Ladislaus) -- Lovely (thinking of Casablanca although it was Victor Laszlo...)
Árpád -- ok
Atilla -- love, but I think you'd get annoyed by the Hun references. I knew an Austrian Atilla, but that was in the US and people are not as likely to be silly about names there.
Vazul (Basil) -- Vazul would be called Vaseline, but Basil is lovely
Miklós (Nicholas) -- Lovely
Milán -- Lovely
Huba -- not great
Xavér (Xavier) -- Lovely
Miksa (Maximilian) -- Lovely
Zoltán -- Lovely

Female:

Arduina -- ok, there would be pronunciation problems though, initially
Édua -- ok
Damira -- Lovely
Ilona -- Lovely

deste · 09/08/2010 21:03

We had a Zoltan who played football for our local team. Sadly he died last year.

Besom · 09/08/2010 20:46

I never thought of 'The English Patient' - I wouldn't worry about that at all. If anything at all Laszlo makes me think of Victor Laszlo in Casablanca but that association is fine as well. It's a good name.

I would have said Il-ona or ee-lona but not ay-lona. Can't speak for other British people though.

strawberrycake · 09/08/2010 20:08

I have an Ilona! It;s a lovely name.

Personally I see Vazul as a name for an older man (I know a few Vasyls in their 30's).

I really love Miksa.

aactionmum · 09/08/2010 19:46

I like Xavér (Xavier).

willowstar · 09/08/2010 19:43

I have a hungarian husband who was very keen for us to call our little one Zoltan if we had a boy. I really like Janus (not sure of spelling but John in Hungarian.

Anyway, go for the hungarian names.

I like Ilona for a girl, my husband has an Auntie Ilona and I always liked her name.

csillus · 09/08/2010 19:39

How would you pronounce Ilona? In Hungarian it is Ee-lo-na. Would you say Ay-lo-na?

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hormonesnomore · 09/08/2010 19:35

Iirc, Zoltan was the name of the fortune telling machine in the film Big.

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hormonesnomore · 09/08/2010 19:32

What fabulous names!

I really like Arpad and Ilona and I was at school with a (Scottish) girl called Alona, so I don't think it sounds too unusual.

They both sound very classy and eminently suitable for toffs Grin

csillus · 09/08/2010 19:29

Thanks for the comments. I have learnt a lot, I'd have never thought about these connotations. (Being an alien means you have a limited point of view. George Mikes is great, I have recently read Kate Fox's Watching the English as well, and already ordered Jeremy Paxman's The English.)

Then I discard Attila because of the Hun, Gyula because sounds indeed like Julia, also Géza ("geezer") and Hunor ("honor").

But what's wrong with Zoltán? It's very easy to pronounce in English.

I wonder if László might be associated with The English patient (Count Laszlo de Almasy) and if it would be good or not for my baby?

Thanks.

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Romilly70 · 09/08/2010 19:26

Agree with all the posters above. Your baby will have a fantastic name and it is great that s/he will be able to be proud of his / her Hungarian heritage.

zenoushka · 09/08/2010 19:19

I really like Laszlo.

EnglandAllenPoe · 09/08/2010 19:09

this reminds me of Georges Mikes 'How to be an alien' - a longstanding classic!

i believe in Hungarian his surname is pronounced Mee-Kesh.

just be mindful how English tongues will pronouce you LO's name!

autodidact · 09/08/2010 18:48

I wouldn't worry about class. Just go for a name you like.:) I think I'd go for the Hungarian versions, perhaps with an English middle name. Agree that Atilla may be best avoided due to hun connotations.

BreastmilkDoesAFabLatte · 09/08/2010 18:47

Wonderful thread title! I would say that, whatever you go for, don't anglicise it... you want you child to be proud of his/her heritage. But I'd suggest that you don't use accented letters (eg just Laszlo, Arpad etc) as some computer systems get a bit stuck with them. And make it pronounceable...

I like Miklos, Miksa and Ilona...

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