To be totally annoyed that Waybuloo does not use proper sentance construction.

I hate the "me no like" stuff. I don't mind Cheebies and Pipplings doing yogo though.

Big & Small (shudder)

I agree with you Toccata

I do like show me show me

But why cant they bring back tikkabilla and fun with phonics, far better programs imo

Personally I don't have a problem with it. TBH, it's nice to see a programme aimed at the under 3s which doesn't have one or all of the characters unable to talk except in babble or fart noises (tombliboos I'm looking at you).

No, the grammar isn't really there, but at least they actually talk. ITNG has always irritated me slightly although I let it pass because hey, what can you do, and it's only 20 minutes long.

Honestly, I could probably recite the premise (or close to it) of Waybuloo as it was presented to the execs, and it's a pretty good attempt at pleasing the children and parents. Better by far than its predecessors (Teletubbies and [shudder] the Fimbles). You're never going to make a children's programme which the children enjoy if you're only concerned with the parents opinions of it. Parents want their children to learn while they watch, or be taught morals, or this, or that, and every parent is different. Children want to watch something fun and understandable, and if that means taking the language 'down' to their level to catch the late developers as well as the faster ones, then so what? I guarantee they won't be watching it at 16.

And it's a damned sight better than the crap they get fed as they're older; Americanised Manga (which misses the point of manga completely) and sanitised violence with atrocious animation and grotesque characters.

And as it happens, I think 'cheebies' probably comes from 'chibi' which is a Japanese term for 'short person' or 'small child'. It's not just made up (though the 'plumatoes' are pretty daft).

exactly piglet - actually quite a few on this thread agree with you (and therefore disagree with me ) but none of them have had to use offensive language to express concern about their children not learning to speak properly

personally, I don't rely on the television for my child's language acquisition, so i don't care what they say on Waybuloo.

Plus, the Hoobs are awesome. Hoobledoop, Tiddleypeeps!

I really enjoy being creative with language and our family has always made up words for things.

Language is flexible, adaptable and can be used just for fun!

Aha witchy, probably.

I noticed teh other day that "penelope" is animated in japan. How's that for another related factoid?

Witchy, I like it!

and do parents of twins/siblings close in age make sure they don't play together while learning to talk to ensure that no bad habits are picked up?

at least it doesn't have freaking justine in it. i thought when dd graduated to cbbc we had seen the last of him but oh now there he is gurning and doing predictable derivative 'comedy' shows [hatred]

dont know if this will be of any interest, but in japan the type of animation used for the piplings is called chibi (cheebees?) sort of small, cute, but big big eyes.

just thought id throw a random factoid into the air there.

so how is another child of similar age not constructing sentences properly while playing with your DC any better than them watching a 20 minute TV programme with badly constructed sentences? (like this one)

children's tv can still be fun without messing with their language skills - I have the same issues with the Hoobs and switch it off whenever we accidentally catch it because there are too many stupid words on it. DS is just learning lots of words now, I don't really want him learning lots of crap when there are so many real ones to learn.

I don't know whether Waybuloo has the same agenda as the Tellytubbies did - I loathed that with a passion and DS has never seen it - which was supposed to help them learn by dumbing language down to their supposed level . I think ITNG is considerably less offensive in that respect.

Shows how out of touch I am now with children's programmes as
I thought a Waybuloo was a pram and was thinking "why can't they discuss prams in the pram topic"

Ha yes piplings not pipkins.

I have to say I don't pay it that much attention. Apart from when I have to get on the floor and join in with the sodding yogo.

"mummy mummy it's yogo! come on floor do the spider!"

"I'm doing it here DD I'm doing it really well"
from comfort of sofa, laptop in position

Well, it is very irritating, just the little noises and stuff but it's just a bit of FUN! It is not pretending to teach children language skills, it is light-hearted, gentle pre-bedtime wind down programming for LOs to watch while having their bed-time milk or whatever.

Do we really have to limit children's TV to high brow educational stuff? Are they not allowed to watch stuff that they might just enjoy, rather like we do?

For some reason Hartley Hare always used to remind me of Larry Grayson (I was a strange child).

Did someone actually use the S word I'm thinging of? Cerebral Palsy connected vile word?

I'm guessing it would be a word that shouldn't be used in reference to certain groups of people as it is utterly offensive to those people and their families. Does that help or still too cryptic? I'm thinking in terms of some sort of disability but I didn't see the thread so don't know.

Ikboo - Pipkins, yes! Loved that although Hartley Hare always looked a bit rabid, I thought...

Piplings are the creepy creatures on Waybuloo. And I can't stand that they call it yogo either.