to be jealous that my best friend has just had a.........

dh once said that he thinks all women are in 'awe' of little boys (in a 'i can't believe i made a boy' kind of way) but 'need' a girl and that all dads are in awe of little girls but need to have a boy

I think he talks bollox

you can have mine id have ten ds's in a swap for dd (girls are a nightmare)

I just have to disagree with everyone complaining about sludge coloured clothes for boys in shops and apparent non availability of any other hues. So how come my three year old son has always had a truly rainbow wardrobe of tshirts, jumpers, pyjamas, coats, hats etc. And all bought in errrrr........ Mothercare( loads of colourful tshirts, orange, red,yellow, bright blue, gorgeous bright orange tigger pyjamas , beautiful Humphrey outfits, red one my favourite )
Next ( last summer on cool days he wore either a bright orange or a red zipped blazer , loved them )
M&S ( loads of gorgeous colourful summer clothes last year )
My absolutely favourite right now is his winter coat bought in Woolworths RIP. Yes , grey ( very smart looking fleece with toggles) but with a vivid red scarf which came with it ( buttoned to the coat). He looks adorable in it and had many comments from strangers.
So I really don't get this issue with no nice colours Do shops here in Bucks get extra stock or what ? But then I bought all M & S stuff online...
I agree that French boys clothes are particulary nice but alas I hated dealing with the known catalogue as service was terrible , things constantly out of stock. available in 3-6 weeks was their mantra .

To any mum who feels sad to miss out on buying pink or any girly stuff. I choose to indulge myself instead and satisfy my urges this way. Nice girly outfits, handbags, little things like notebooks for my shopping lists, watches, socks... They all very feminine and I take a girly pleasre in shopping for them. I think it is also nice for the boys(3) to have this female aura about. This does not mean I'm a one dimensional person. I thoroughly enjoyed taking my boys to see Star Wars when younger and take active interest in anything related when they obsessed about it for a while. And my all time favourite book/ film is Lord of the Rings.

Lollipopmum !
I feel compelled to comment on your post as I find it hard to accept you can be so close minded and not be able to believe that had you happened to have a little boy of your own you would have found him just as lovely as your daughter and so would your husband.
Of course you are head over heels with your little girl and I'm sure she is wonderful but believe me boys are equally fantastic. I'm a mum to three boys, 13, 11 & 3 . All are totally utterly adorable , sweet, loving and great fun to be with.but as much as I don't have a great longing for a girl, I have no trouble imagining a girl makes a equally fantastic child.
I was going to say hope you don't have any more children being so anti boys but on second thought maybe it would be good, I'm sure you would love him and ... see the light !
For the time being, I ask you, if we ever cross paths and you see me in the company of my three sons, don't feel smug and pity me as you would be SO WRONG.

I have DTS and now we have definately decided no more kids (DH had the snip) I did need to come to terms with my desire for a girl. But I belive in God and with twins, God had plenty of chance to give me 2 girls, or one of each! But when you see them playing together you realize that its better for them. They are so close. As I am very close to my sister. But dressing them in colourful clothes is a challenge, the boys sections in the supermarkets are so small and depressing compared with the girls. I love the clothes for boys you can get in France so Im going to stock up when Im out there this year.

"It's a dress not a ruddy lifestyle statement!... So lay off the pink-bashing"

Nah, sorry, disagree, and will 'bash' pink as much as I want.

It is practically a lifestyle statement - on top of all the pink clothes, then there's the pink buggy, pink car seat pink cushions, even bloody pink books, as they get older, it's pink nintendo ds, all the way up to pink furry dice and pink furry steering wheel covers.

And all it represents - to me the odd bit of pink is one thing, but I find the excessive rosy splurge to be a crowing trophy of baby one-upmanship. And garish and yuk yuk yuk. Oh, and horrible boring. pink again. yawn.

You might find the 'sludge' for boys 'depressing', but as others have said, often not much else available, b. not every part of their lives has to be dominated by their gender. (Saying that, I don't have any slugde coloured clothes for my dss. True, they almost always waer jeans, but their t shirts are mostly bright colours red, green, orange etc.) It does irritate me a lot actually. I hate pink, and all it represents and stand by that. I cannot get my head round why people buy endless pink. They what happens if they later have a boy? Stick the boy in a bright pink car seat, buggy or have to replace everything? Seems short sighted (unless absolutely sure no more kids, then it's just tacky anyway imo)

if dd turned around aged 3 and asked for a pink dress, fine, I'd probably let her have it if she wanted it. If she wnted every single thing to be pink, from the ceiling in her bedroom, her spoon at breakfast down to her knickers and everything inbetween, I'd be saying 'no' quite a lot.

Agree with Ernest and Tigger's posts. I was talking to a lady (now in her 60s and a grandmother) who had 3 boys and then a girl, who was still furious about the tactless comments that people had made almost 30 years before in front of her boys when her dd was born "you finally got your girl" etc. Some people have no idea have they, both about how a mother feels and about children's self esteem?

Sorry, lollipop, but I'm not sure how helpful an "I got what I wanted and I feel great about it" post is.

I was dreading finding out that my bump was Team Blue, I just always imagined having a girl. I like little girls (not like that! ) but I just don't feel so confident with boy babies and just find the idea of having a boy a bit intimidating I suppose. By the time it came to my 20w scan I had convinced myself that I didn't mind, I should just be happy that the baby was healthy and I want a boy because DP would prefer a boy. When I was told that the baby was a girl I was sooooo bloody happy, elated. And ... smug! I just felt this massive grin go over my whole face! I felt bad because I knew my DP was secretly hoping for a boy, but I was just so happy that I would be having my very own little baby girl. DP has since confessed that he's so much happier that we had a girl, he thought he wanted a boy until she was here but he is totally in love with her now and can't imagine ever having a boy.

In short, definitely NBU, you can't help what you yearn for sometimes.

I honestly have no idea, I used to joke that I have a girl hormone? genuinly have no idea why?. TBH since I had my ds i do not have it as much, I hope so I have a great job and fab friends things are still quite raw at the moment, am sure evrything will be good in time.

Agree with Tigger, btw, when ds1 and even ds2 were small ( 12 and 10 now) there were loads of fabulous bright greens, reds,oranges and yellows available in the shops for boys.
Now the only bright clothes ds3 and ds4 have are the hand-me-downs from those days, there is nothing nice available on the high street for boys. Mind you, when I went to shop for dh's one year old niece, I have to say there was pink, lilac, errr.... more pink and more lilac! I mean, one of the reasons I would like a girl is to be able to buy pink clothes but I am not sure I would like ONLY pink clothes! I mean, what if she had red hair? Have seen gorgeous little red-haired girls dressed head-to-toe in pink and it's really not a good look!

Out of interest jazz - why 'always wanted a girl?'. What is it you expect from having a girl?

BTW, speaking as an old hag alot older than you, you have time on your side and I am sure things will change for you if you want them to!!

I have a ds 2 who is just wondeful, butI like to think that i will be fortunate enough to have a girl one day, i always wanted a girl and have often felt quite jealous when friends/family ect have had girls. I am now a single parent and although only 29 i worry that i will not have any more children, I am sure this is a silly thought to most people but i lways wanted the happy marriage and the children but sometimes when I have lonely days i cant see things changing - though hopefully they will one day

Some teenage girls are complete nightmares as are some teenage boys. Others are lovely. It's silly to say teenage girls are worse than boys.

Chipmonkey - can't take up your challenge because if we ever accidentally stray into the boys' section at, say, Next my dd cries in mock horror "yuck - boys' stuff!" . You could try making your own though ...

Have 3 DDs and 1 DS.Find it is a completely different relationship,ds is s o sweet,and 2 of the girls are madams!
However unreasonable I know it t o be,I do love having 3 girls though.All my girls are'girly'and DD2 in particular is fab company and we have a great relationship.
Word of warning though...teenage girls,imo,are a nightmare.Well,DD1 is,at 19 now and still driving me mad.
My lovely blue eyed boy won't be so cruel to his mummy

Right ella! I challenge you to go shopping and find some nice funky clothes at a reasonable price for a 4 year old boy.

exactly Tiggy! Unless your budget runs to the high-end of the kids clothing market you are still REALLY going to struggle finding bright colours for boys. It's one of my absolute pet hates. I too have bought DS a couple of girl's things when he was younger just to get some colour for him. Also remember standing by the baby/toddler range just wishing that ds was small for his age as there was such a difference between the colourful (ish) baby clothes and the sludge older boys stuff!

God, if only we could! Mothers of very young boys are so lucky now compared to when mine were very little. (16,13,9). I used to scour the shops looking for anything that wasn't navy or grey and didn't have power rangers or Thomas the tank engine on it! On occasion I even bought them the odd items of girls' clothing just for a bit of colour!

What's all this crap about pink and "all that it represents"?? It's a dress not a ruddy lifestyle statement! My dd likes pink, occasionally wears a fairy/princess costume but she's a bright, funny, spunky little thing who can tear around the playground with the boys. So lay off the pink-bashing (personally I found it depressing to see all the boys dressed in sludge-coloured clothes at the National Space Centre yesterday - dress them in bright colours instead for pete's sake!).

YABU. Be thankful that you have two lovely sons. Some people can't have any children at all. All children are a blessing. What will be will be.

Some people have all boys and others all girls, others have one of both. If I have another child I don't care what the gender is, as long as it's healthy.

You know what? She loved it! She was a teacher too so maybe coming home to 9 kids was kind of a break from 30!

probably not for your aunt!!!

Actually, nstm, if I had a daughter, I don't think dh would have agreed to keep going, it has been a nice excuse to have more babies! I'd have loved to have 6 or 7. My aunt had 9 children and their house was always so much fun!

I have one of each and always feel annoyed when people say " Lucky you, like I won them" especially as I always wanted four children but dh said we'll stop when we have one of each

I have 2 dss and then had a girl. I suppose I did secretly want a girl third time around for the novelty value! Although if I'd had to have had all one sex of children, I'd have preferred all boys to all girls iyswim. But it was nice to be able to look in the pink half of mothercare for a change!

But the doing girls things bit hasn't really materialised as dd (now 4) is a real tomboy (not surprisingly I suppose with older brothers.) She hates pink, wants boys clothes and toys and won't entertain the notion of anything girly. (Ben 10 is her absolute favourite at the moment.) Today she asked if she could have her lovely long hair cut like the boys - we did cut some off but she wanted it clippered and was very disappointed when I wouldn't let her. (I think I'll be hiding the scissors for a while.)

So getting a girl wasn't quite what I expected it to be. My dd is more boy-like than her brothers!