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Some people on here are ridiculously gullible

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SkipperTheEyeChild · Yesterday 08:57

Honestly, some of the stories posted on here are so far fetched it’s laughable, yet people lap them up and spend hours earnestly replying.
Do people genuinely not question anything they read? Some of the threads are so obviously made up, I can’t believe how many people fall for them.

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latetothefisting · Today 15:23

Hmm I initially voted YABU, not because you're necessarily wrong but because I don't really see how it matters. Either way I'll never actually meet the DH with the sex beaker or the interfering MIL so does it actually matter if they're real or not? Nobody is forcing anyone else to respond.

But then thinking about it there are some people who do get sucked in, and, in extreme cases, send money etc. Also while 5-10 years ago talking about Russian influence and bots information farming etc would have got you funny looks, unfortunately it's no longer tin-hattery. One made up thread with a thinly-veiled implication regarding immigration or benefits or whatever is one thing, multiple repeated over months to an audience of 8 million, can influence people, subliminally or otherwise, particularly when a fair number of MN users are perhaps a bit more socially excluded/nervous then the general population.

The fact that so many people can't tell when posts are so obviously AI-assisted or completely generated is worrying as well.

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · Today 15:10

I take everything on here with a pinch of salt and assume the majority is absolute horse shit.

TheBrambleDormouse · Today 15:08

Calliopespa · Yesterday 10:53

I think this is why troll hunting or doubting the veracity of the thread can get you deleted. It would be upsetting to have a predicament so awful people couldn't think it was real, for instance.

But sometimes you do see posters leaning in and fuelling what is obviously a made up thread and wonder why they are giving it fuel - though just as often I think what does it matter: if someone is so desperate for attention that they make up a thread, perhaps they really do need the attention!

Yes, I had one of those. In fairness, I was posting on behalf of a friend, it wasn't my scenario but she had asked me to! It was deleted.

I was asking for advice about an encounter of sexual abuse. I had been on here for donkey's years at the time too.

CleverlyBeery · Today 13:38

NiftyKoala · Today 03:31

There are posts just in the last week so outlandishly fake yet you report and you get an email saying that admin thinks it fine. But God forbid you say the tr@!! Word and instant ban.

Tbf I don't need anyone to point out that a story could be fake - that's baked-in in my head with everything I read, and allowing it simply means all threads potentially get derailed with whether or not it's possible to have happened. So I agree with banning troll-hunting on threads.

SummerAsh · Today 06:30

OP, I think you’re gullible for thinking that people necessarily believe the threads are true. MN is no more than interactive entertainment for many.

SummerAsh · Today 06:27

3luckystars · Yesterday 09:05

What are people gaining from making things up though? They are just wasting time ? It’s a mystery to me.

They’re no more wasting time on MN than you are.

VerityMarch · Today 05:36

Most replies are as far fetched as the post.
A lot of the advice is unhinged and not something people would actually do in real life.
Much of it is mumsnet only advice that you never hear or see in the real world.

NiftyKoala · Today 03:31

CleverlyBeery · Yesterday 09:02

And why do you believe the responses are genuine?!

You need to report the threads, not break Talk Guidelines and claim they're fake on the threads themselves.

What I find even more gullible are the ones that are like 'I think X caused Y' or 'I think A do this more than B - what do you think?' but based entirely on 4 people they know and extrapolating to the entire country/ human race Grin

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There are posts just in the last week so outlandishly fake yet you report and you get an email saying that admin thinks it fine. But God forbid you say the tr@!! Word and instant ban.

VoltaireMittyDream · Today 02:25

I agree there are a lot on here that feel rage-baity - the simpler, shorter ones often.

But about a decade ago on here I saw a long and detailed thread

TheBrambleDormouse · Today 00:56

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · Yesterday 11:03

This is true. So often people post “if this is all you have to worry about then your you’re lucky”.

Failing to realise that people can be desperately worried about a seriously ill family member and global warming at the same time as being annoyed that the same child gets star of the week every week in their child’s y1 class.

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Yes this too.
People do not apply critical thinking less so even out of the box or more than basic thinking even!

If something trivial has really got to someone, it might not be a case that they're living a privileged spoiled life. Perhaps their life is actually very challenging to the point where feeling a bit fat/their friend bringing the wrong paperwork/ a missed appointment or such weights heavier?

HughJarsed · Yesterday 16:49

Apologies. Psychiatry for three decades. Consultant aged 30. So 25 years. Hope that clears things up.

SixtySomething · Yesterday 16:09

CardboardScott · Yesterday 15:47

Thank you, but I will leave my head unwobbled. 🙂

I disagree with the premise that suspecting that a post may be untrue means that people will deliberately give advice they wouldn’t otherwise.

People love to give advice and to state their opinion, especially on an anonymous site where one doesn’t have to water it down for courtesy’s sake.

If I have the time and inclination to state my position it’s far easier to say what actually I think than make something “farcical” up.

That really wasn’t what I meant at all @CardboardScott . Having read a previous post of yours, I don’t think my idea is that different from yours.
I’m not talking about people ‘suspecting a post may be untrue.’
I was talking about the effect of not taking anything seriously. That’s what I meant by downgrading.
I’m really struggling to see a problem with this thought. It’s so straightforward really.

CardboardScott · Yesterday 15:47

SixtySomething · Yesterday 12:17

Please give your head a wobble @CardboardScott .
Obviously we all have different experiences and I thought it was taken for granted that posters are giving their own opinion, not other people's.

I don't see your point either about MN being a business.Plenty of businesses also have worthwhile aims. I have always thought of MN as a place which was intended to offer advice and support. I go to MN to find out how other people live IRL.
If you want to read bad literature, Im sure there are plenty of other places to do that on the internet.
The reason I say that MN is downgraded if viewed as an entertainment site for fictional situations and problems is that people will then give farcical advice. Then the person with the real difficulty/dilemma will get treated to the same farcical advice and might even be vulnerable enough to take it.
For example, look at all the LTBs over minor problems.
This is just my personal opinion. And no, I'm not expecting MN to be a version of the BBC c 1950s!😂

Thank you, but I will leave my head unwobbled. 🙂

I disagree with the premise that suspecting that a post may be untrue means that people will deliberately give advice they wouldn’t otherwise.

People love to give advice and to state their opinion, especially on an anonymous site where one doesn’t have to water it down for courtesy’s sake.

If I have the time and inclination to state my position it’s far easier to say what actually I think than make something “farcical” up.

IdleGossip · Yesterday 15:03

SkipperTheEyeChild · Yesterday 13:18

Their health visitor and GP always refuse to help them, despite the baby/babies having no formula and no heating. Every suggestion of where to get help is shot down, and then they disappear from the thread as soon as a poster says they’ve PM’d them with an offer of money or a food shop.

Agree.

Posters are generally very helpful and if given a vague location will spend time researching foodbanks in Greater Manchester, emergency social services numbers in South Wales, churches which might offer support in the Lothians and so on. But there is always a reason why the supposedly desperate person cannot contact them or cannot get there. As more and more suggestions are made, and more barriers are put up, it becomes increasingly obvious that they want cash.

cryupmykingdom · Yesterday 14:09

Tend to agree that both the posts and the responses, are mainly performative.

It's a chance to respond by typing in nice-sounding guff, that maybe builds karma on your profile. Certainly that is the way it works on Reddit and a number of other forums, don't know about here.

I imagine concrete actions taken in response to these posts amount to zero.

Even if the post is genuine, the chances of it being possible to actually do anything must be close to zero.

When I tried suggesting something sensible to do by way of acting on the problem (which often involved directing them to a food bank, emergency department etc) the few times I got a response, the person either tried to rationalise not acting themselves, which was rather suspicious, or it was transparently kind of scam. Only once, did someone thank me for sending her to the right place to fix the problem.

shelbytown · Yesterday 14:08

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OneHazelBird · Yesterday 14:05

A few years ago I was calling BS on a thread and a poster said she’d rather answer like it’s true and risk it being not, than answer like it’s fake.

The poster must have something deeply troubling going on in their heads/life for them to create a fake thread.

As long as people don’t send money or give personal details etc then it’s fine.

FWIW I have literally been down to my last 5p and was not able to get any baby formula etc.
I didn’t post as this was years ago but it definitely does happen.
If you’ve never experienced true poverty then you can’t judge someone who has.
Although no one should be sending money/food etc.

SkipperTheEyeChild · Yesterday 14:04

HughJarsed · Yesterday 13:58

Thanks to you and others for defending and explaining my comment!

Ofc I am not as literate here as in real life.

Being 55, and having worked many years in the NHS with the public, I have the skin of a rhino, fortunately. But I do genuinely appreciate it when people challenge unnecessarily snide comments online!

You became a consultant psychiatrist at the age of 25? That’s quite something.

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PenelopeShadow · Yesterday 13:59

Hyroplate · Yesterday 13:41

A third of posters here are begging?

But actually, 27% of children on UK are living in relative poverty, so the fact that many people here are struggling to make ends meet is perfectly legitimate. The fact that it's not a world you recognise (close your eyes to?) doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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I wasn't referring to the begging posters, as you know and when I said a third, I was not giving a statistic but saying that at times, it seemed like that.

I was referring to the amount of posters who come on, tell us they have no friends, family, husband, neighbours or budgie and who live very rurally, without the benefit of car, train, bus, pavement or penny farthing.

A good number of posters say this in some form or other. Get your eye in and you will notice it too.

HughJarsed · Yesterday 13:58

shelbytown · Yesterday 13:51

Yes you were - you were patronising. The way she wrote it was fine- only you didnt get it.

She's not at work on MN so no idea why on earth you'd expect her to come out with a load of psychobabble 🙄

Thanks to you and others for defending and explaining my comment!

Ofc I am not as literate here as in real life.

Being 55, and having worked many years in the NHS with the public, I have the skin of a rhino, fortunately. But I do genuinely appreciate it when people challenge unnecessarily snide comments online!

shelbytown · Yesterday 13:55

SixtySomething · Yesterday 13:55

Please go and have an argument with someone else!

No. I wont.

AlwaysNeverSometimes · Yesterday 13:55

SixtySomething · Yesterday 13:46

I’m not being ‘snarky and rude’.
I presumed what the poster was getting at at but , IMO , that’s not the proper way to write it. I would not normally think anything of it but it’s pretty strange coming from a ‘consultant psychiatrist of thirty years’ experience ‘. I should have thought correct use of language is hard wired into someone like that.
But don’t let it spoil your afternoon!

There is nothing wrong with how she has expressed it.

SixtySomething · Yesterday 13:55

shelbytown · Yesterday 13:51

Yes you were - you were patronising. The way she wrote it was fine- only you didnt get it.

She's not at work on MN so no idea why on earth you'd expect her to come out with a load of psychobabble 🙄

Please go and have an argument with someone else!

shelbytown · Yesterday 13:51

SixtySomething · Yesterday 13:46

I’m not being ‘snarky and rude’.
I presumed what the poster was getting at at but , IMO , that’s not the proper way to write it. I would not normally think anything of it but it’s pretty strange coming from a ‘consultant psychiatrist of thirty years’ experience ‘. I should have thought correct use of language is hard wired into someone like that.
But don’t let it spoil your afternoon!

Yes you were - you were patronising. The way she wrote it was fine- only you didnt get it.

She's not at work on MN so no idea why on earth you'd expect her to come out with a load of psychobabble 🙄

TheBrambleDormouse · Yesterday 13:50

HughJarsed · Yesterday 11:58

I have been a consultant psychiatrist for 30 years. I have met a few fantasists. I have heard far more ‘unrealistic’ true stories that would blow many people’s minds.

As a counsellor who's also worked as a police dispatcher, I hear you on this.

People forget or don't realise what others' lives can be like and what kind of weird and wonderful complexity encompasses the human nature and psyche.

I agree with a PP about the 'beggy' threads.

I've hardly seen any and I've been on mn over a decade. They're not THAT frequent. And the types to beg are also the types perhaps to beg on a forum. You don't need so many of them to stand out. They could be 1% of the population and that's still quite a large number of people in the great scheme of things.