New Airbnb rules

Fair enough. But this just shows why Airbnb should be banned because as your post shows, not only does it deplete local housing stock, it also takes away from local businesses (pubs, cafes etc)

‘Unless you're doing a big family reunion I have no idea why you would want to stay in one. I'd rather get the breezy feeling of being in a hotel, or if out in the sticks, a quirky BnB or inn.’

MONEY and SPACE! While the cost of a hotel stay may be similar when you add in food, drinks and so on with 2 kids then it can be really expensive. Airbnbs often come with full cooking utensils, books, games the kids can play, DVDs and a player for some old fashioned movie watching…
With hotels we’re often crammed in a hotel room together - 2 rooms are way more expensive, and kids too young to be separate anyway. Good hotels, reasonably priced with family rooms are few and far between in thenUK and Europe. then throw in meals, snacks, drinks out all day and it equals ££££
when it’s just the 3 of us or an adults trip, we used hotels or ‘quirky inns’ because it won’t bankrupt us.

With four of us and a dog we love Airbnb because it’s makes stays actually affordable but I have always avoided ones that have an onerous cleaning list because that’s what the cleaning fee is for! Only once did we stay at a ‘strip the beds, wash the floors’ one which had a list on arrival. Totally ignored it and there were no consequences.
I think it is reasonable to ask people to put dishes in a sink or in a dishwasher or ‘leave the apartment as you found it’ though.
last one in abroad they did ask that the recycling was left out - with a polite note saying it only comes every 2 weeks - so we did.

I always assumed the bed stripping was a control measure from Air BnB, rather than cost saving by the host. If the guests knows the rules are to strip the beds the guest knows that the sheets were changed before they arrived, similarly they see the state of the mattress since if guests had previously stripped the bed and found a horror show they would have put it in the reviews.

I used Airbnb when they first started years ago but haven't stayed in one in about 5 years. Unless you're doing a big family reunion I have no idea why you would want to stay in one. I'd rather get the breezy feeling of being in a hotel, or if out in the sticks, a quirky BnB or inn. Part of going away for me is about feeling like im not in a domestic setting. I do dishes and make beds in my own house, why would i want to do that on holiday 😅

All pots should be washed up and put away and I usually wipe surfaces so no obvious grubbiness

I resent paying a cleaning fee and also being expected to strip beds and empty bins. I don’t mind doing these if no separate cleaning fee and ai have been there a week but for short stays and cleaning fee no

You can choose a dishwasher in the amenities, along with any other preferences.

I wouldn’t want to stay in a place without one (imagining the varying standards of hand washing up.)

In what way? Say the check out time is 10am. What makes the bins more gross by 10.10am when the cleaner could empty them than at 9.50am when I empty them?

And why is it not gross in a hotel but it is in a holiday let?

I suppose if the cleaner isn't going in straight after the guest leaves, it could become gross but that's a problem for the host that the guest is paying to sort.

Oh forgot to say, I think it’s good for Airbnb to standardise the rules. Also if someone does not empty the bins or put the dishes into the dishwasher, I just shrug and get on with it, as a host you’ve gotta take the rough with the smooth. Some guests are incredibly tidy and some are very messy….. it’s just the way it goes….

Because not emptying bins is gross

If you don't clean up after yourself wherever you are , you are gross.

It’s interesting one…. I have a holiday cottage that I let full time, I clean it myself because you can’t rely on cleaners to get it spotless. My cleanliness standard is “you should feel you are walking into a new property”. But I have never charged extra for cleaning. I ask guests to empty bins, put dishes into the dishwasher and switch on. Light wipe down and light vacuum (if possible). I don’t want them to strip beds as I need to check for marks and stains so they can be pre treated before they are sent off site to laundry. However I think Airbnb have brought rules in because some places in France have been insisting on full cleans and charging after the holiday if you don’t!!!!

I prefer a home to a room. I like the living space to relax

I’d stay in a premier inn for a night or two but if I’m away for a week I want more space, a kitchen so I can have breakfast and the odd dinner in, and a tv with Netflix (I want to relax on holiday not have to go out every night)

It’s still won’t convince me to stay at an Airbnb.

I always self-cater, although don't use Air BnB as the one time I booked with them they cancelled at the last minute. I would never leave a property without doing the dishes or emptying the bins. It's not comparable to a hotel stay where you wouldn't be cooking or using household items. It seems different hosts have had wildly different ideas about what to expect guests to do so a uniform policy seems a good idea.

However, as a regular visitor to France I am interested if the changes to air bnb rules will affect the whole industry. France has a very well-developed holiday rental sector. I've been doing self-catering holidays there since I was a child and paying an additional cleaning fee has always been standard. In some places you also pay extra to hire bed linen and towels too if you don't want to take your own (most French rentals are based on the idea of self-drive). When my DC were young and money was tight I used to clean the place myself. I guess the costs will be added to the overall rental price. However, renting a house in France is always distinctly cheaper than in the UK anyway.

I’ve stayed in Airbnb all over Australia, Europe and the U.K. and the most I’ve ever been asked to do is put the bin out. I’ve stayed in ones that are clearly holiday lets and ones that are people’s homes and it’s been the same everywhere. I’ve always paid a cleaning fee for them to clean.

I'm glad to see new rules coming in.
I've spent hours cleaning airbnbs before leaving them.
I've stayed in quite a few and the demands are crazy - from putting on the washing machine with the dirty sheets, to cleaning the fridge to washing floors to washing windows and even drying the sinks!
If there is an option to pay an additional cleaning fee, I take it as it gives me half a day's holiday back.
But I will not pay a ridiculous expensive cleaning fee if we have only stayed for one night so will choose a budget hotel instead.
This will hurt many owners who have been taking bites from both ends.

This is why we just stay in hotels old or new rules should holidays be this complicated, we tidy and clean to a certain standards in hotels by choice but airbnb has always sounded like hard work to me

Surely teabags should be in the general waste. Most aren’t composable because of the glue used to make them.

Totally agree. Some hosts have far too high expectations. I don’t mind leaving things clean and tidy but stripping the beds and cleaning the loo should not be on anyone’s list of things to do. Especially when hosts also demand that you are out of the property by 10am.

Reading some replies is barmy to me. I have never stayed in a bad one
No weird rules no weird hosts just really lovely places that allowed me and my disabled kids and hubby to have a lovely holiday

Isn't that just what you do when you stay in a lodge or a house
You cook you tidy up you take out the rubbish

If hosts are now expected to do it the prices will rocket

You rent a property not a service

I’ve never come across anything like this