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It should be mandatory to retake a driving test again age 70 and every five years after that

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InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 13:55

What it says really, especially given the aging population and associated cognitive decline, impacting on reactions, and also cars being larger, and fifty years of bad habits that the driver has got away with
Obviously young men are the most likely to have the worst accidents because of their tendencies towards risky behaviour, but there are steps to address this, and they do tend to hurt themselves more than others
presumably this came up in past years especially given the terrible incident in morningside 2020 with the little boy, but after trying to reason with an obdurate 75 year old father who only hasn’t done something awful for sheer good fortune it’s feeling on my mind

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AnswerIsNo · 22/10/2026 15:23

BatmanBinSuparman · 22/10/2026 15:13

you can run someone down with a car, maim or kill them and then get your licence back after 2 years - imo you should never drive again

as said, reach 12 points > solar cremation

or, if you run someone over and kill them, you get fixed to the tarmac and have the favour returned

Jc2001 · 22/10/2026 15:23

BatmanBinSuparman · 22/10/2026 15:13

you can run someone down with a car, maim or kill them and then get your licence back after 2 years - imo you should never drive again

There should definitely be a mechanism for lifetime driving bans.

TheWiseLilacScroller · 22/10/2026 15:23

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 14:05

It’s not ageist if it’s proportionate in terms of reducing risk though surely?
young people on their 20s have much higher insurance than someone in their sixitirs because it’s calculated on risk
my father is an absolute liability, refuses to acknowledge that he’s a danger to himself and others -and only hasn’t hurt someone because it turns out they’ve got better reflexes than he does . He took the battery out of my grandmothers car when she was 80 , with vascular dementia and refused to stop driving , but I don’t see that working at this stage

You are being ridiculous. There are nearly 10 million people in their 70s in the Uk, many of whom are well and safe to drive. If your father has deteriorated that much, then there may well be something medical/cognitive going on, which needs checking. If there is an issue, of course he shouldn’t drive. But all this is already a DVLA requirement.
By far the biggest risk are young men, who hugely outnumber older people in terms of accidents. Only men 86 plus are statistically a bigger risk than men under 25.
The issue is your dad, not everyone in their 70s.

NotAtMyAge · 22/10/2026 15:27

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 14:13

I think a lot of people deserve and ought to retire sooner than 67

Dh and I are 80 and still driving, though only locally in our very rural bit of Wales, which has virtually no public transport, except between towns. Our two DC are in their 50s and fully expect the state pension age to be 70 by the time they reach retirement. Are you seriously suggesting that all the people who have been capable workers until they reach retirement suddenly turn into doddery pensioners immediately thereafter?

Incidentally I read our local paper in which road accidents figure largely. Far more older people are victims of poor or dangerous driving by young, impatient or inexperienced drivers than the other way round.

gingercat02 · 22/10/2026 15:27

In Spain you have to do a simulation driving assessment when you renew your driving licence over 70 and have a valid eye test. Very sensible I feel

Stanislas · 22/10/2026 15:27

Haven’t read the full thread but I’ve been told there are an estimated 500000 drivers with neither insurance nor licence on the roads. I doubt if that applies to the over sixties

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 15:29

The over 85s population is anticipated to double in the next twenty odd years, it’s not a problem that’s going to get better or indeed go away, it’s just going to be more elderly drivers , unless something is done
People may be living longer but they’re not necessarily having longer in peak health

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FunPreventionOfficer · 22/10/2026 15:29

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 14:05

It’s not ageist if it’s proportionate in terms of reducing risk though surely?
young people on their 20s have much higher insurance than someone in their sixitirs because it’s calculated on risk
my father is an absolute liability, refuses to acknowledge that he’s a danger to himself and others -and only hasn’t hurt someone because it turns out they’ve got better reflexes than he does . He took the battery out of my grandmothers car when she was 80 , with vascular dementia and refused to stop driving , but I don’t see that working at this stage

Sounds like you should be sorting your father out rather than worrying about the 70+ population.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 15:30

Well, I’ve contacted the DVLA about him
Also learnt on an anecdotal level that I am very much not alone

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chirrupybird · 22/10/2026 15:31

ReadBooksMorons · 22/10/2026 15:15

But we're talking about cognitively. How many times have you been on the motorway and someone is tootling along at 50mph (often in the middle lane), not keeping up with the traffic and you can see it's some little figure slumped in the driver's seat and you pass by and it's an old person? They do the nuttiest things and haven't got a clue that what they're doing is wrong.

I usually find that's a young woman who never goes on the motorway normally and hasn't got a clue how to drive on one. And the fast ones that hammer along weaving through traffic are usually 20-40 year old men. Some people never have any cognitive ability or spatial awareness or common sense no matter what age they are. And the number of people (of any age) who drive with poor eyesight is frightening. Then there are all the people who don't have a license have never taken a test and don't have insurance, driving around oblivious to the rules of the road. And of course idiotic teenagers thinking they are indestructible. The hit list is long and older people mainly just driving around their local area, driving slowly are not high on mine.

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 22/10/2026 15:32

I don't think that it should be a full driving test just a fitness to drive test.

DrySherry · 22/10/2026 15:33

I worry about lot more about the current "licence exchange" rules to be honest that are available to immigrants.
There are currently 50 odd countries that you can arrive from and exchange your domestic licence for a UK one - without ever taking any uk based training or test...

Whyhaveibeencutoutofmamsnot · 22/10/2026 15:35

I think that the age to drive should be increased to 21 for women and 25 for men as these drivers cause more injuries. Also young women should have random eye tests at roadside as many are too obsessed with appearance to wear their glasses.
Also more random drug tests.

Obimumkinobi · 22/10/2026 15:37

TheDenimPoet · 22/10/2026 15:22

I don't think they should have to take a test, BUT, I think all drivers should have to have a refresher session with an instructor each time they renew their driving license. To help them spot bad habits they've got into, and then if their driving is dangerous (because let's face it, there are many of all ages who are dangerous) they are referred for another test before their license is renewed.

The instructors should be hired specifically for this role, and should be salaried so there would be no incentive for them to fail people purposefully.

TBH I don't think it's bad habits per se that's the issue, is recklessness, impatience and physical and cognitive decline. Anyone can fake perfect driving for a test, so this would be a waste of money.

Mcdhotchoc · 22/10/2026 15:37

80 and over you have a point.
My Mum should not have been driving at that point and I had to have a very difficult conversation with her, and sold her car.
However, if people dont have anyone to do that and are reliant on a car, having to do a test of some sort at 80 would remove a risk.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 15:38

Mcdhotchoc · 22/10/2026 15:37

80 and over you have a point.
My Mum should not have been driving at that point and I had to have a very difficult conversation with her, and sold her car.
However, if people dont have anyone to do that and are reliant on a car, having to do a test of some sort at 80 would remove a risk.

A massive advantage is that it takes the onus off the family of the unfit driver - it’s the law, non -negotiable , as opposed to conflict and potential for guilt

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Whyhaveibeencutoutofmamsnot · 22/10/2026 15:39

And women shouldn't be allowed to drive with children in the car to and from school until they have passed an extra parking test.

Men are probably as bad but I only tend to see women doing the school death run.

AgentKim · 22/10/2026 15:39

Oh for heavens sake! Will you still feel the same when you are 70.? Or are you never going to age. ?
Its nearly everyday now there is a post moaning about older people. Everybody gets older. Wait until your 70 and everyone thinks you shouldn't have a pension or you should leave your house and give it to someone with a family and all the other horrible ageist things said on here.

Snorlaxo · 22/10/2026 15:41

I think that all drivers need to do an eye test at least every 5 years.

We are one of the few countries who automatically give a license for decades and I wouldn’t object to a retest every decade or whatever. The practical problem is that there is a mega long wait for people who want their first driving license without adding more adults to the mix.

MerryAquaKoala · 22/10/2026 15:41

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 13:55

What it says really, especially given the aging population and associated cognitive decline, impacting on reactions, and also cars being larger, and fifty years of bad habits that the driver has got away with
Obviously young men are the most likely to have the worst accidents because of their tendencies towards risky behaviour, but there are steps to address this, and they do tend to hurt themselves more than others
presumably this came up in past years especially given the terrible incident in morningside 2020 with the little boy, but after trying to reason with an obdurate 75 year old father who only hasn’t done something awful for sheer good fortune it’s feeling on my mind

Ok but make people take it again at 30 too, maybe 40, 50. Bit like a passport.

LeaderBee · 22/10/2026 15:42

QueenOfAccountability · 22/10/2026 14:04

Exactly, it's speed thats dangerous on the roads and the elderly mostly don't speed, thats a young mans habit

It;s quite easy to kill someone at 30 or 40 miles an hour. Especially if its a young child.

AnswerIsNo · 22/10/2026 15:44

Whyhaveibeencutoutofmamsnot · 22/10/2026 15:39

And women shouldn't be allowed to drive with children in the car to and from school until they have passed an extra parking test.

Men are probably as bad but I only tend to see women doing the school death run.

on a related note, I have a long list of anecdata that supports repeated personal observation, that in numerous cases,

the Child On Board reliably relates to the person behind the steering wheel

Beemothsahumming · 22/10/2026 15:44

I disagree regarding age 70. I don’t think that’s old generally speaking, though a bad driver is a bad driver. My mum was a brilliant driver and drove without so much as a near miss or scratch due to her driving till she died aged over 85.

I agree there should be something more at 80. It is sad but those people I’ve observed and known who drive when they are “past it” (apologies for the phrase) do so because of lack of public transport, not having the funds to pay for taxis, no family support, or wanting to ask for family help, rural areas where a car is absolutely essential, snd sheer terror almost of losing independence.

I have a friend also whose mum is terrified of getting into a car either her husband but he will not listen. He’s a man who would be ashamed of himself if he were to cause a crash. They are in their 80s. I think they have both decided to stop thankfully. In their 70s they were driving across Europe! So sadly I think that an age 80 law could really help both the individual, their families, and other road users alike.

ThatLassFromLeeds · 22/10/2026 15:45

I think there should be a mandatory eyesight test for every driver every 10 years or so, and that that should be increased in frequency after the age of 70 or so. And possibly a reaction test too. I think a full test is a bit too much.

MyLifeInBooks · 22/10/2026 15:48

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 14:06

Suspend licence whilst they wait on test? Could be an even better scenario

... and who is going to pick up the pieces when people who are capable of driving can't get to the shops gor food or Dr appointments?