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It should be mandatory to retake a driving test again age 70 and every five years after that

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InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 13:55

What it says really, especially given the aging population and associated cognitive decline, impacting on reactions, and also cars being larger, and fifty years of bad habits that the driver has got away with
Obviously young men are the most likely to have the worst accidents because of their tendencies towards risky behaviour, but there are steps to address this, and they do tend to hurt themselves more than others
presumably this came up in past years especially given the terrible incident in morningside 2020 with the little boy, but after trying to reason with an obdurate 75 year old father who only hasn’t done something awful for sheer good fortune it’s feeling on my mind

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Beemothsahumming · 22/10/2026 20:20

70 is absolutely not old! Regarding rural areas, sure if you are properly old (80+ in my mind as a general rule) you wouldn’t probably stay somewhere without amenities and public transport, but plenty of people in their seventies will definitely still be capable of active rural life that needs a car to get to the shops.

I am 6 miles to the nearest shop and a taxi to the nearest hospital would cost over £70 one way. The GP is 6 miles away. The nearest public transport is where the shops are.I think people forget that some parts of the uk are genuinely rural and most of us are pretty strong and capable! 80 definitely I would support something though as I too have been concerned for very elderly drivers on the roads.

XenoBitch · 22/10/2026 20:22

DM is nearly 70, and needs her car for work. Nothing wrong with her driving at all.

JenniferBooth · 22/10/2026 20:23

Stayandfight · 22/10/2026 20:15

Schrodingers driver = much lol

Schrodingers pensioner

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 20:25

TheFishFish · 22/10/2026 19:52

If you aren't capable of passing a test on any given day, then I would argue you shouldn't be driving. It's not like a driving test is particularly hard.

But then I also think it shouldn't be possible to take test after test until someone eventually passes. There are too many drivers on the road, having stricter standards would be no bad thing.

The only barrier is the very practical issue of there not being enough capacity in the system as it is, but if there were I would fully support everyone regardless of age having to sit a retest periodically.

I don't think that's true. I passed first time but so many people who are better and more confident drivers than me failed once and often twice. On another thread someone said 50 percent failed first time. Don't know if that's accurate, but certainly failure is very common. These are mainly people who are judged ready for their tests by instructors. Nobody can guarantee they'd pass if they had to do test again. I'm sure there are many posters on this thread who failed first time but know their driving was no different when they passed from when they had previously failed.

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 20:28

XenoBitch · 22/10/2026 20:22

DM is nearly 70, and needs her car for work. Nothing wrong with her driving at all.

Nothing wrong with the driving of most 70 yr olds. Those who drive badly probably always did drive badly.

XenoBitch · 22/10/2026 20:29

TheFishFish · 22/10/2026 19:52

If you aren't capable of passing a test on any given day, then I would argue you shouldn't be driving. It's not like a driving test is particularly hard.

But then I also think it shouldn't be possible to take test after test until someone eventually passes. There are too many drivers on the road, having stricter standards would be no bad thing.

The only barrier is the very practical issue of there not being enough capacity in the system as it is, but if there were I would fully support everyone regardless of age having to sit a retest periodically.

Luckily, you are allowed multiple attempts at tests. The test is literally assessing how well you can pass a driving test. Real world driving is different.
I passed second time. I had 2 minors, and 1 major (which was rolling back a tiny bit when pulling away on a hill).
Failing your test does not mean you are dangerous and should never drive. It is nerves that gets to people most of the time. Having someone sat with a clipboard in the passenger seat and watching what direction your eyes are looking etc is not a normal thing to go through.

LlynTegid · 22/10/2026 20:30

I wonder if many of those who want to reduce the number of drivers over 70 are only doing so because they do things like drive below the speed limit, use indicators, and have the audacity to drive in peak hours sometimes. Whilst those advocating this probably drive large SUVs, on distances that even in cold weather are walking distance.

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 22/10/2026 20:33

Speeding is the single most common factor in the UK. It's a factor in 41% of all reported collisions and 59% of fatal ones. (Department of Transport).

Middle-aged motorists aged 45–54 represent the age group with the highest number of active speeding penalty points and convictions in Great Britain.

Men account for about 75% of the speeding points issued in the UK.

Any other groups you want to target OP?

Hundslappadrifa · 22/10/2026 20:33

Wopple · 22/10/2026 20:04

So over 70s are incredibly dangerous drivers but at the same time it’s disgusting that these old people claim a state pension from 67 and it should be increased to at least 75? So over 70s need to keep working (and of course are fully fit and competent to do this! Everyone has PILs or parents who still run marathons at 75!) but at the same time stop driving as they are not fit or competent to do this. Would fuck delivery drivers right over wouldn’t it. Schrödingers delivery drivers. Ah yes I forgot. They’d just need to find another job they can walk to. But not one that a young person would want. Can’t have old people taking all the good jobs! In fact I hope the home they walked from is only a tiny 1 bed flat. If they haven’t downsized to free up their big house for families then they are disgusting for that as well right! But equally how awful that the lovely 1 bed flat went to a 70 year old! That would have been a lovely starter home for a young person couple!

Maybe it can all be solved by putting over 70s(?) to sleep? That’ll free up the roads for the younger arsehole drivers, and the houses and the jobs etc.

TheFishFish · 22/10/2026 20:34

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 20:25

I don't think that's true. I passed first time but so many people who are better and more confident drivers than me failed once and often twice. On another thread someone said 50 percent failed first time. Don't know if that's accurate, but certainly failure is very common. These are mainly people who are judged ready for their tests by instructors. Nobody can guarantee they'd pass if they had to do test again. I'm sure there are many posters on this thread who failed first time but know their driving was no different when they passed from when they had previously failed.

Sure, failing one or two times is going to happen.

But once someone has failed 5, 10 times... then maybe driving isn't for them.

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 20:35

ClawsandEffect · 22/10/2026 19:31

As an over 60 I agree with this. I have two friends (over 70) who I know are dangerous on the road. I suggested that one of them should really give up driving and was castigated for suggesting it. This friend had a prang in car park a week before, which was recorded on CCTV, but hadn't noticed that they'd hit another car!

My concentration when driving isn't what it was 10 years ago. I'm not too bad if I'm driving alone, but passengers are now a huge distraction to me.

I hope I'm realistic enough when I'm in that position to hang up my car keys,

There was a horrific accident near where I live a week ago. A woman of 70 driving a massive SUV reverse crashed through embedded metal barriers and ran over pedestrians, trapping one of them underneath. Why would a person that age drive a vehicle that lethal?

While you have a point, it's easy to focus on older drivers and ignore the fact that some younger drivers aren't perfect. I was aghast when a woman, no older than 40 something drove into me, hurting my leg slightly, and drove off again without noticing.

Stayandfight · 22/10/2026 20:37

JenniferBooth · 22/10/2026 20:23

Schrodingers pensioner

You’re on a roll tonight 😂

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 20:38

TheFishFish · 22/10/2026 20:34

Sure, failing one or two times is going to happen.

But once someone has failed 5, 10 times... then maybe driving isn't for them.

Yes, superficially that seems to make sense, but then you could argue that they were just slow learners but got to the required standard eventually.

TeenLifeMum · 22/10/2026 20:39

MrTiddlesTheCat · 22/10/2026 14:05

Do you think older people are incapable of judging for themselves if they're fit to drive or not?

No they are not judging by the old lady who went up the back of dd as they approached traffic lights… twice! The camera footage was terrifying that she took so long to react ave her reaction was to put her foot on the accelerator. Dd is having regular physio and car was a write off.

My dad is furious he can’t drive due to a brain tumour and is adamant he’d be fine despite having vision interruptions. My mum has told me that she wants me to tell her if she doesn’t recognise she’s no longer safe.

TheFishFish · 22/10/2026 20:39

XenoBitch · 22/10/2026 20:22

DM is nearly 70, and needs her car for work. Nothing wrong with her driving at all.

Then she would have no problem passing a retest, would she.

TheFishFish · 22/10/2026 20:40

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 20:38

Yes, superficially that seems to make sense, but then you could argue that they were just slow learners but got to the required standard eventually.

I'd rather people who can only get up to standard "eventually" just don't drive. If someone fails time after time after time then they are clearly not of the required standard.

Too many cars on the road and too many people being hurt by shit drivers as it is.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 20:44

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 22/10/2026 20:33

Speeding is the single most common factor in the UK. It's a factor in 41% of all reported collisions and 59% of fatal ones. (Department of Transport).

Middle-aged motorists aged 45–54 represent the age group with the highest number of active speeding penalty points and convictions in Great Britain.

Men account for about 75% of the speeding points issued in the UK.

Any other groups you want to target OP?

I’d just quite like the roads to be safer generally and also not to have to deal with a trrrible sense of guilt should an elderly relative kill or injure a pedestrian due to them driving when they probably shouldn’t be - and I am relying entirely on the DVLA taking action or self certification (which, as discussed upthread is why this whole mandatory testing malarkey would be quite handy)
Id be up for limiters on cars to reduce speeding, no passengers for the first year after passing your test, better enforcement of traffic rules and regulations, maybe even upping the age of learning to drive to 25 as by then you tend to be a bit less reckless.

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ClawsandEffect · 22/10/2026 20:46

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 20:35

While you have a point, it's easy to focus on older drivers and ignore the fact that some younger drivers aren't perfect. I was aghast when a woman, no older than 40 something drove into me, hurting my leg slightly, and drove off again without noticing.

I think the under 25s are also dangerous. But other than the under 25s and the over 70s, I don't think there is any pattern of risk.

We decline cognitively as we age. Makes sense we shouldn't be driving a huge lump of metal at speed.

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 20:46

XenoBitch · 22/10/2026 20:29

Luckily, you are allowed multiple attempts at tests. The test is literally assessing how well you can pass a driving test. Real world driving is different.
I passed second time. I had 2 minors, and 1 major (which was rolling back a tiny bit when pulling away on a hill).
Failing your test does not mean you are dangerous and should never drive. It is nerves that gets to people most of the time. Having someone sat with a clipboard in the passenger seat and watching what direction your eyes are looking etc is not a normal thing to go through.

This is SO right. I passed first time because I handle exams well. Someone I knew at university kept failing exams. Also failed driving test 5 times. Passed on sixth attempt. Following day drove from Inverness to London. Then got a job requiring constant driving. Could drive perfectly well but struggled with exams.

ClawsandEffect · 22/10/2026 20:48

TeenLifeMum · 22/10/2026 20:39

No they are not judging by the old lady who went up the back of dd as they approached traffic lights… twice! The camera footage was terrifying that she took so long to react ave her reaction was to put her foot on the accelerator. Dd is having regular physio and car was a write off.

My dad is furious he can’t drive due to a brain tumour and is adamant he’d be fine despite having vision interruptions. My mum has told me that she wants me to tell her if she doesn’t recognise she’s no longer safe.

I'm with your mum. Feel the same way. It's why a lot of us older people future proof, by moving somewhere we don't need to drive for shops, doctors etc.

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 20:48

TheFishFish · 22/10/2026 20:40

I'd rather people who can only get up to standard "eventually" just don't drive. If someone fails time after time after time then they are clearly not of the required standard.

Too many cars on the road and too many people being hurt by shit drivers as it is.

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But the examiner has judged them competant. Or are the examiners incompetent?

Beemothsahumming · 22/10/2026 20:50

@InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava I’m nearly 70, I work, I am a good driver because I always have been. I resent being termed elderly as you seem to think 70 s is. Perhaps for some I would concede. why not start your focus at 80? Many posters on here are saying the same. Have you been persuaded at all?

Idontpostmuch · 22/10/2026 20:55

ClawsandEffect · 22/10/2026 20:46

I think the under 25s are also dangerous. But other than the under 25s and the over 70s, I don't think there is any pattern of risk.

We decline cognitively as we age. Makes sense we shouldn't be driving a huge lump of metal at speed.

Surely the fairly young woman who hit me wasn't cognitively competent either. I was standing with my bike on chevrons next to turning right box. Chevrons separated two turning right boxes, one to turn r into road I was turning into and one to turn r from that road. She shouldn't have even been on chevrons, far less hit me, and then didn't even notice.

XenoBitch · 22/10/2026 20:55

TheFishFish · 22/10/2026 20:39

Then she would have no problem passing a retest, would she.

Why she need one? Based on just her age?
The wait to get a test at all is ridiculous right now.

People fail a test on nerves a lot of the time.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 22/10/2026 20:55

Beemothsahumming · 22/10/2026 20:50

@InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava I’m nearly 70, I work, I am a good driver because I always have been. I resent being termed elderly as you seem to think 70 s is. Perhaps for some I would concede. why not start your focus at 80? Many posters on here are saying the same. Have you been persuaded at all?

I’ve been persuaded to 75 -80 I’ll do another AIBU poll with the age changed and compare the results .

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