Poking holes in condoms!

I think OP is envisaging a sprouted mung bean!

Has it touched a nerve? Were you strung along? Because I cannot think of any other reason for such appalling comments.

I think deceit in a relationship never bodes well......
40-50 million sperm per ejaculate means if a few hundred thousand seep out the pin prick pregnancy may happen.
This could possibly be considered sex by deception (if he was deceived) this invalidates consent.
The case of Andrew Lewis in 2014,he was sentenced to 4 yrs imprisonment for poking a hole in a condom,as it invalidated consent.He eventualy pleaded guilty to rape. In germany in 2022 a woman was found guilty of sexual assault and was convicted of sexual assault.
So, potentially your friend has admitted to a criminal offence .....

Except it is. It is classed as rape. Even if a woman does it to a man,

Read the information in that link I posted!

I honestly feel this is akin to sexual abuse and onto as far to call this rape but Jesus it’s awful. She knows she’s in the wrong as she’s not exactly making it public. She knows it’s not acceptable. It was done maliciously without his consent and on purpose to become pregnant against his will.

Shoe on the other foot - if a man purposely tampered with a women’s birth control plan to get her pregnant they would be slated on here.

I could never look at her the same and it would be a relationship/friendship ender for me.

I'm pretty sure @DebbieSavage is a troll. They've been on other threads saying stupid stuff, and I'm not the first to accuse them of being a troll.

I would not want to be friends with anyone who would do that. Of course it's a total violation of trust for anyone, man or woman, to interfere with contraception.

I also agree that it's best to stay well clear of the situation under the circumstances. It's likely to get messy, and you don't need any dirt to be flung onto you.

It would feel different. You would be able to tell the packet wasn't air tight

Is he not also your friend? Why doesn’t he deserve to know?

You just put the pin through the foil. Unless he inspects every pack before opening with a magnifying glass, it isn't going to be noticeable. Did you never watch anything during the ones, saw this shtick on some many films/snap operas?

Condoms have a perfect use clinical test failure of 2% and a real world use failure of nearly 20%.

That means if you use condoms you still have the risk of getting knocked up for 1 out of every 6 shags or so and even with absolute perfect use 1 out of every 50 shags.

People get knocked up while using condoms all the time, its a great std barrier for a lot of infections but not the best birth control.

I genuinely think this is clickbait though, poking holes in condoms is urban legend level usually thrown around by men who don't want to take responsibility or the women that want to baby those men.

Its like poking a hole in a balloon, go ahead and try it, very few people can do it without causing critical failure (which is obvious when it happens) and I'm not talking party tricks like putting sellotape on to reinforce it. Even those who are trained to be with needles and have access to precision equipment (like some medical staff) you cannot just do it blind with a random pin through an unopened packet and leave no obvious marks.

I can assure you that people can fall pregnant even when using a condom when there is no laziness or user error involved. Ffs. Get off your high horse. Classic case of not understanding that sometimes people have experiences which differ from your own 🙄

Edited to add : In another episode of ‘not everyone has mirroring experiences in life’, when the condom fails, it is also possible to fall pregnant even when you take the MAP exactly as directed.

So they’re not wrong. Sexual assault is not always rape. Rape has a very specific definition which is penetration by a penis. So yes it is abhorrent, and if able to be proved illegal, but it’s not rape.

Disgusting comment. Regardless of any context.

Who does she think she is to just stomp all over his dreams like that?

There. I have amended this for you.

Why do you think her behaviour is OK? It isn't. Not at all.

They have three children already, one of whom has extra needs.

I'm shocked at some the replies!

Completely unacceptable. I'm not sure I could be friends with someone like that.

I really REALLY hope that poster is not being serious!

It’s not rape. That has a very specific definition. Nobody had a penis inserted into them against their will.

Wrong.

It is classed a sexual assault to poke holes in a condom and risk pregnancy against someone’s will, and yes, some courts will class it as rape.

rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/types-of-sexual-violence/what-is-stealthing/

Youre taking the piss, right?

That pregnancy was almost entirely predictable sadly.

Whilst I get the logic, I think I’d be a) instantly put off that he didn’t trust me to that extent, if he thought I might be damaging condoms then what on earth are we doing having sex; and b) I’d then worry if the instance to use his meant he had damaged them (I was stealthed many years ago)

I don't give a shit if he's been 'stringing her along'. It's fucking disgusting and unforgivable to deliberately get pregnant and pretend it's an accident. Genuinely appalling and there is zero excuse for it.

God that’s awful. I think I’d have to step back from the friendship completely.