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DS has been uninvited from a sleepover and I don’t know what to tell him

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TryingNotToMakeItWorse · Today 15:19

DS is in year 6, 10 but turns 11 next month. One of his closest friends is having a sleepover next weekend for her birthday and invited him along with 5 other girls. He’s the only boy.

He’s always got on better with girls really. He’s got a couple of boy mates but theyre more school friends if that makes sense, whereas the girls are who he actually wants to spend time with outside school. He’s been friends with this particular girl since year 3 and they’ve been to each others houses loads of times, so it’s not like they’ve only just started hanging about together.

Anyway he was invited last week. They were going to have pizza, watch films and all sleep in the living room.

Yesterday the mum messaged me saying she’d had a conversation with one of the other mums who wasnt comfortable with her DD staying overnight if a boy was there. Apparently she’d not really thought about it before but had decided she was going to make it girls only after all. So DS is no longer invited.

I do understand that its her house and she can have whatever rules she wants but I feel really uncomfortable about the way its happened. He was invited and now he’s been dropped because another parent has an issue with it. The birthday girl apparently still wants him there and they’ve not fallen out or anything.

I havent told him yet because I honestly dont know how to explain it without him thinking she’s changed her mind about being his friend. He doesnt get invited to that many sleepovers and he was genuinely excited about this one.

Part of me thinks I should just say the plans have changed and leave it at that, but then he’s going to find out at school when the other girls talk about it.

Would you tell him the actual reason or keep it vague? And would you say anything to the mum or just leave it now?

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BCSurvivor · Today 15:41

My son is 34 now, but I remember when he was in year 6 he was in a large, close group of friends, where only two were girls.
one of these girls came for a sleepover, it was just the two of them. and while it had seemed fine at the time, the reality was that it probably wasn't.
His friend had developed quite early, and wore a bra.
She was absolutely lovely, and far more mature than my son, who only saw her as his friend, but knowing she wore a bra definitely made me rethink mixed sex sleepovers.

SeniorSausage · Today 15:39

I definitely wouldnt have let my kids have mixed sex sleepovers at that age. They are approaching puberty and body changes become really evident.

Easytorecall · Today 15:38

ScaredButUnavoidable · Today 15:37

You’re making this a unnecessary drama.

He’s perfectly old enough to understand that mixed sex sleepovers aren't considered appropriate for most parents.

Exactly.

Easytorecall · Today 15:38

TeenToTwenties · Today 15:35

The Mum invited and then disinvited leaving the OP in a difficult position.
In this case I therefore think it would be fine to ask, tough if it is a bit awkward for the Mum.

I have asked if the birthday girl verbally invited the DS without actually asking her mum

and no matter how difficult the position is, the mum should not be forced to invite him for any part of it and fact he hasn’t suggested would indicate she wasn’t told Dd was inviting him or… her DD also doesn’t want him to come for this bit

ScaredButUnavoidable · Today 15:37

You’re making this a unnecessary drama.

He’s perfectly old enough to understand that mixed sex sleepovers aren't considered appropriate for most parents.

GloryDias · Today 15:37

I agree that at that age it's not a good idea, it's safeguarding your son as much as anything - especially at Yr 6 age when everyone is hitting puberty. Yr 6 boys & girls usually don't get changed together at school for PE so there could be embarrasment etc, it also just takes one of the girls to accuse him of something inappropriate.

pizzaHeart · Today 15:37

Girliefriendlikespuppies · Today 15:25

Can he not just go for pizza and films and not sleep over? I’d tell him the truth.

This ^
By the way and I think it’s a right call, at this age it was very wrong for birthday parents to assume that everyone will be ok with a mixed sleepover.

TeenToTwenties · Today 15:35

Easytorecall · Today 15:33

No, if the mum hasn’t already suggested it - then it is for a reason

The Mum invited and then disinvited leaving the OP in a difficult position.
In this case I therefore think it would be fine to ask, tough if it is a bit awkward for the Mum.

Alittlefrustrated · Today 15:34

He's too old for that now sadly. There's no need for drama.Just explain it's an adult decision because they are all growing up now.
Can you arrange a nice evening at yours, or a trip out for him and the birthday girl?
Might DFs mum let him go and just come home late? It doesn't have to be all or nothing surely?
The other mother is right to address this imo.

Boreded · Today 15:34

TeenToTwenties · Today 15:30

Agree with this.

But also it isn't strange / unusual for a parent (or child) to not want mixed sex sleepovers at that age.

We talk about kids being over sexualised too early, and then we decide they can’t have mixed sleepovers despite being in primary school…sends the wrong message.

There is zero reason that kids of this age should not be able to have a sleepover, if they’ve not gone through then why on earth would there be an issue.

Easytorecall · Today 15:34

Sizzlingsnowdrop · Today 15:33

I think it’s very odd by year 6 to have mixed sex sleepovers. Your son must know that on school trips sleeping accommodation is never mixed - simply say this is the same.

There is no way I would let my son sleep in the same room as females. It’s not an endearing extension of positive female friendships, it’s highly risky.

Good point. In his end of year residential he sure as shit won’t be in mixed dorms

Easytorecall · Today 15:33

TeenToTwenties · Today 15:30

Agree with this.

But also it isn't strange / unusual for a parent (or child) to not want mixed sex sleepovers at that age.

No, if the mum hasn’t already suggested it - then it is for a reason

Sizzlingsnowdrop · Today 15:33

I think it’s very odd by year 6 to have mixed sex sleepovers. Your son must know that on school trips sleeping accommodation is never mixed - simply say this is the same.

There is no way I would let my son sleep in the same room as females. It’s not an endearing extension of positive female friendships, it’s highly risky.

Boreded · Today 15:32

Tell him the real reason.

TeenToTwenties · Today 15:30

Redflagsabounded · Today 15:27

Asking the mum if he could attend the pizza and film then you collect him was a good suggestion.

Agree with this.

But also it isn't strange / unusual for a parent (or child) to not want mixed sex sleepovers at that age.

Easytorecall · Today 15:30

Redflagsabounded · Today 15:27

Asking the mum if he could attend the pizza and film then you collect him was a good suggestion.

If the mum has not suggested it, then no

notspringingback · Today 15:29

You should be honest. Having friends of the opposite sex inevitably changes a little as they get older so there’s no point ignoring it. Keep to the facts, make sure he knows it’s no reflection on him personally and try not to make a big deal of it beyond that. Perhaps him and the birthday girl could do something juts the two of them?

Easytorecall · Today 15:29

Redflagsabounded · Today 15:28

I disagree with telling him it's strange for parents to say no to mixed sleepovers once they start hitting puberty - it's extremely sensible. It protects your son as much as the girls.

Has anyone said to say this is strange?

Toodarktooearly · Today 15:29

Offer to go and pick him up after pizzas and movie that's what we've always done with the mixed groups

Redflagsabounded · Today 15:28

I disagree with telling him it's strange for parents to say no to mixed sleepovers once they start hitting puberty - it's extremely sensible. It protects your son as much as the girls.

FatMrsHoot · Today 15:27

Girliefriendlikespuppies · Today 15:25

Can he not just go for pizza and films and not sleep over? I’d tell him the truth.

This was going to be my suggestion too.

It's sad for your ds but was going to come up eventually, I'm afraid.

Redflagsabounded · Today 15:27

Asking the mum if he could attend the pizza and film then you collect him was a good suggestion.

NotAnotherScarf · Today 15:26

Tell him the truth that some people a bit strange about boys and girls being at a sleepover together and that his mate and her mum are cool with everything but the other girls parents aren't.

He's 10 not 4 and will know about biological differences and that it can be embarrassing for some people to be in yer PJs in front of another sex.

Remember some of these girls may well have hit puberty so there's a whole new level of embarrassment.

Easytorecall · Today 15:26

How was he invited ? Verbally by the birthday girl?

Redflagsabounded · Today 15:26

I would tell him the real reason - it's no longer appropriate for boys/girls to have mixed sex sleepovers at this age, it's not personal to him and he's done nothing wrong, but it's a decision the adults have made. Tell him you are sorry the decision was made after he was invited but it would have been the same result if the adults had thought about it in time. That you know he feels disappointed but it's part of growing up.

Don't make anyone the villain here. It's actually the right decision.

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