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DS has been uninvited from a sleepover and I don’t know what to tell him

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TryingNotToMakeItWorse · Today 15:19

DS is in year 6, 10 but turns 11 next month. One of his closest friends is having a sleepover next weekend for her birthday and invited him along with 5 other girls. He’s the only boy.

He’s always got on better with girls really. He’s got a couple of boy mates but theyre more school friends if that makes sense, whereas the girls are who he actually wants to spend time with outside school. He’s been friends with this particular girl since year 3 and they’ve been to each others houses loads of times, so it’s not like they’ve only just started hanging about together.

Anyway he was invited last week. They were going to have pizza, watch films and all sleep in the living room.

Yesterday the mum messaged me saying she’d had a conversation with one of the other mums who wasnt comfortable with her DD staying overnight if a boy was there. Apparently she’d not really thought about it before but had decided she was going to make it girls only after all. So DS is no longer invited.

I do understand that its her house and she can have whatever rules she wants but I feel really uncomfortable about the way its happened. He was invited and now he’s been dropped because another parent has an issue with it. The birthday girl apparently still wants him there and they’ve not fallen out or anything.

I havent told him yet because I honestly dont know how to explain it without him thinking she’s changed her mind about being his friend. He doesnt get invited to that many sleepovers and he was genuinely excited about this one.

Part of me thinks I should just say the plans have changed and leave it at that, but then he’s going to find out at school when the other girls talk about it.

Would you tell him the actual reason or keep it vague? And would you say anything to the mum or just leave it now?

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Branwellgirl · Today 17:31

Just tell him the truth. One of the attendees will, at some point I imagine.

gardenflowergirl · Today 17:29

I would have a conversation with him about puberty about how bodies change and that girls bodies change years earlier with periods etc and so girls need more privacy at this age due to this. So there won't be mixed sex sleepovers now.

MeridaBrave · Today 17:27

Can yon ask the mum if he can stay until 10ish? Then Would be easy to explain that one of the mums thought best if only girls staying over.

AstonCanKissMyArse · Today 17:24

StepAwayFromGoogling · Today 16:02

So? The OPs 10 year old won't be able to help himself staring at breasts through pyjamas? Or asking about periods? Seriously?

Its not about him 🙄

Its about what the other girls feel comfortable with. All the other guests aren't besties with him.

FirmSnake · Today 17:20

Tell him the truth OP. He's of an age where he should be starting to understand puberty and reproductive health. It is irrelevant that all his friends are girls. Things will have changed since the last sleepover - they are all getting older. It is inevitable.

TrixieFatell · Today 17:18

throughtheseasons · Today 17:08

Problem is often no one wants to be the voice of dissent and risk isolating their child.

But I think privacy should be granted to children without them being made to ask for it, I really do.

Believe me I know the mum's really well and they would have not felt at all worried about being the voice of dissent.

sweetpotatopie2 · Today 17:15

Mercy. My post, like another one I saw a bit earlier, has been temporarily blocked out until the mods get a chance to look at it. Someone is tattling over the silliest things. Or could it be a bot that picks up certain words, regardless of the context they're used in?

movingtotheslowlane · Today 17:15

Redflagsabounded · Today 15:26

I would tell him the real reason - it's no longer appropriate for boys/girls to have mixed sex sleepovers at this age, it's not personal to him and he's done nothing wrong, but it's a decision the adults have made. Tell him you are sorry the decision was made after he was invited but it would have been the same result if the adults had thought about it in time. That you know he feels disappointed but it's part of growing up.

Don't make anyone the villain here. It's actually the right decision.

This!

MCF86 · Today 17:13

I was the only girl when my best friend had a birthday sleepover, I think we were 12. My dad came and collected me - I can't remember what time but I know it was much later than I'd ever normally be allowed to be out and I was a bit disappointed how quick it felt like that time came round but I was glad I'd been there.

I think he'd be more disappointed not to go at all than he would be to leave early.

CurdinHenry · Today 17:12

I feel so sad for kids in these situations. So many boys would love to do the things girls find fun but the gender walls go up at this age and that's that.

HoppityBun · Today 17:12

JenRummy · Today 16:48

This thread seems to have turned more into a debate about whether mixed sex sleepovers are allowed at age 10. The birthday girl’s Mum and OP had no problem with it. Ava’s Mum did. Why isn’t Ava sitting it out given DS and birthday girl have been close friends for years?

I don’t suppose many will agree with me but it does seem to me that birthday girl and the birthday girl’s mum should get together with OP and her DS and have a low-key chat to explain.

sweetpotatopie2 · Today 17:12

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Awkwardisfunny · Today 17:11

TryingNotToMakeItWorse · Today 15:19

DS is in year 6, 10 but turns 11 next month. One of his closest friends is having a sleepover next weekend for her birthday and invited him along with 5 other girls. He’s the only boy.

He’s always got on better with girls really. He’s got a couple of boy mates but theyre more school friends if that makes sense, whereas the girls are who he actually wants to spend time with outside school. He’s been friends with this particular girl since year 3 and they’ve been to each others houses loads of times, so it’s not like they’ve only just started hanging about together.

Anyway he was invited last week. They were going to have pizza, watch films and all sleep in the living room.

Yesterday the mum messaged me saying she’d had a conversation with one of the other mums who wasnt comfortable with her DD staying overnight if a boy was there. Apparently she’d not really thought about it before but had decided she was going to make it girls only after all. So DS is no longer invited.

I do understand that its her house and she can have whatever rules she wants but I feel really uncomfortable about the way its happened. He was invited and now he’s been dropped because another parent has an issue with it. The birthday girl apparently still wants him there and they’ve not fallen out or anything.

I havent told him yet because I honestly dont know how to explain it without him thinking she’s changed her mind about being his friend. He doesnt get invited to that many sleepovers and he was genuinely excited about this one.

Part of me thinks I should just say the plans have changed and leave it at that, but then he’s going to find out at school when the other girls talk about it.

Would you tell him the actual reason or keep it vague? And would you say anything to the mum or just leave it now?

That mother should allow him for the party but then he leaves at bedtime. Simple. And that's how it should have been from the start.

Tulipsriver · Today 17:10

Easytorecall · Today 15:24

Just be honest. No one is in the wrong. They are just getting to an age where girls and boys become much more aware of each other.

I completely disagree. The host is in the wrong for uninviting a child based on another parent's preference. If other guests were uncomfortable with the arrangement, they should have politely declined. If they told the host the reason, she should have said it was a shame but she understood and hopefully the girls could get together another time.

OP, I would tell your son a gentle version of the truth. Some parents aren't comfortable with mixed sex sleepovers, it's nothing he's done wrong but unfortunately they've decided to keep it to girls only this time.

throughtheseasons · Today 17:08

TrixieFatell · Today 17:06

My daughter had and still has male best friends. She invited one of them to her sleepover in year 6. I advised her that I would need to let the other parents know so they could make a decision they felt comfortable with in terms of letting their daughter come to the sleepover. They were all fine with it. If they hadn't been then their child wouldn't have attended. My daughter was happy with that scenario and understood others may not be as comfortable for a mixed sleepover.

He was her best friend and he was the one she wanted there most. I think in this scenario the other girl is the preferred friend. I'm sorry your ds has been uninvited.

Problem is often no one wants to be the voice of dissent and risk isolating their child.

But I think privacy should be granted to children without them being made to ask for it, I really do.

Lsquiggles · Today 17:08

It's a shame for your son and I'm sorry he'll be upset but this was always going to happen sooner rather than later

sweetpotatopie2 · Today 17:07

sweetpotatopie2 · Today 16:35

I'd just tell him the truth as soon and simply as possible, that you're sorry but he can't go to the sleepover because one of the mothers felt like the kids were getting too old for boys at a girls' sleepover. We all have our little disappointments in life and just have to deal with them.

I would not call the girl's mother and ask that he be partially included. I think the mother is not following the best etiquette herself to un-invite him but of course it's her house and her option. Still, if she'd wanted to partially invite him anyway, she would have. And her behavior or your child not liking it isn't really an excuse to lower your own etiquette standards, in my opinion. Inviting yourself (or your child) is nearly always cringeworthy, in my opinion.

It's also possible that some assumedly unnamed other mother is not the reason your son was un-invited. It could be the sleepover hostess decided this herself (or her husband did, if she has one) and wanted to dodge the blame. I think "social lies" are very common, so I wouldn't assume the reason given is even necessarily the real reason.

Of course we hate to see our kids disappointed, though. You might offer your son a little something to soften the blow. Maybe have some of the kids over another day or take them somewhere, or take him somewhere cool the evening of the sleepover. Good luck with it.

Edited

Whoops, too late to edit my post above. I now see that the girl's mother who opposed the sleepover was named so please ignore that paragraph.

TrixieFatell · Today 17:06

My daughter had and still has male best friends. She invited one of them to her sleepover in year 6. I advised her that I would need to let the other parents know so they could make a decision they felt comfortable with in terms of letting their daughter come to the sleepover. They were all fine with it. If they hadn't been then their child wouldn't have attended. My daughter was happy with that scenario and understood others may not be as comfortable for a mixed sleepover.

He was her best friend and he was the one she wanted there most. I think in this scenario the other girl is the preferred friend. I'm sorry your ds has been uninvited.

Autumnalhibernationisthedream · Today 17:05

LoudWriter
It only sends that message to people who see it that way, it just says that whoever was already invited was already in as a definite!!

Lacksie · Today 17:04

Autumnalhibernationisthedream · Today 17:03

Completeme

did I miss a post? This seems like a random call, we know nothing about op’s son who is friends will all girls so is already on the right track tbh

100%. The sexist attitudes are just wild.

Makebelieveanotherlife · Today 17:04

I have one of each so I’m fairly unbiased. I agree with the mother disinviting him. I don’t think sleepovers with opposite genders are ok. My dd won’t be having any sleepovers with friends with older brothers there too. I would not even be offended if someone declined a sleepover with my dd because I have a ds.
you should tell your ds the truth, I mean he’s well old enough to know that someone will
have an issue with this

JenRummy · Today 17:04

LoudWriter · Today 17:02

I think one good reason Ava shouldn't be made to sit out would be that it would give both children a broader understanding that male entitlement trumps female bodily autonomy and privacy.

Well it’s certainly crossed now into the ridiculous.

Autumnalhibernationisthedream · Today 17:03

Completeme

did I miss a post? This seems like a random call, we know nothing about op’s son who is friends will all girls so is already on the right track tbh

LoudWriter · Today 17:02

JenRummy · Today 16:48

This thread seems to have turned more into a debate about whether mixed sex sleepovers are allowed at age 10. The birthday girl’s Mum and OP had no problem with it. Ava’s Mum did. Why isn’t Ava sitting it out given DS and birthday girl have been close friends for years?

I think one good reason Ava shouldn't be made to sit out would be that it would give both children a broader understanding that male entitlement trumps female bodily autonomy and privacy.

Autumnalhibernationisthedream · Today 17:01

It’s a pity but even as a boy mum I totally get that someone would have an issue with it. If the birthday mum was ok with it then she wasn’t to know it would have been an issue. Nobody really is at fault here, it’s just a shame. Hopefully they’ll arrange something else afterwards

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