To think everything will be unrecognisable in 50 years

The people living in 50 years time (assuming we don't have total climate collapse and end of civilisation) will think being "Scottish" is what they see around them. Just as people 50 years ago had a different idea of "normal" and "change" to you. Most of what we understand as traditionally "Scottish" culture today was created during the 19th (possibly also 18th, I'm not sure) Scottish Nationalist revival.

Things change all the time. It's very human to see the state of things when we are growing up like some sort of fixed point that change happens to but it isn't, every time is just one moment in a river of ongoing change.

I thought the other day, walking down my high street which is one of the most multicultural in the UK, in 50 years time Britain may not be considered a white country any more. And you know what? I realised I don't care. I feel just as connected to a future Britain that isn't mostly white as I do to one that is. It will still be Britain. It will still be that story, moving on and changing as it always has. There are cultural moments in my neighbourhood that are uniquely British now because there are children growing up together as neighbours from cultures that would never have met if they were tied to geography rather than all here at this exact point in time.

All that we need to do to qualify for our place in the story is to be here and be part of it.

How will she have freedom and opportunities if Sharia flourishes?

And if you or your daughter had to either live in Japan or live in a Muslim country then we all know which one you would pick my dear. You'd know the difference between them very well if push came to shove.

Go on then, define it. What are our cultural values?

According to the U.K. government, they are defined as, Democracy, Rule of Law, Individual Liberty and Mutual Respect and Tolerance. If you ask anyone about the cultural values they will talk about queuing, not complaining and drinking tea.

Which of those values are disappearing? Which of those government defined values are not shared by most other nations?

People will bleat in about how we treat our women, and how that’s different in other cultures - as if we haven’t had a problem with VAWG for decades. It took us until 1991 to outlaw marital rape, long after many other countries did so. Anyone who wants to pretend there is no issue with the way women are treated, dismissed, disrespected by British men is wilfully ignorant or hugely naive.

I'm sorry, but you're showing your ignorance. There is no single, universally accepted, definitive scholarly account of what constitutes "British culture". Nor has "British culture" remained stable and immutable over time.

There are interpretations, observations and opinions. Points of agreement and points of disagreement. Things which remain stable and things which evolve and change over time. Aspects which are accepted by the majority and aspects that are accepted by smaller groups. Differences shaped by factors such as geography, history, identity and socio-economic class.

You are seeking to massively oversimplify something that is inherently complex. I understand why you want to do that. But it doesn't work.

It’s part of the plan. If we can be convinced English culture never existed then there’s nothing to preserve and nothing to miss.

What a lazy and ignorant summery of British culture. How clever of you to cherry pick the 'royal family' and 'fish and chips' and laugh at the foolish British for thinking they had a culture. I don't think any of my ancestors in rural farming Norfolk, the crofters in the Scottish highlands, those in west Wales or those from county Kerry would have picked any of the things you mentioned as their culture, strangely enough. They knew what their culture was because they lived immersed it in every day and had for generations. We know what it was and is still.

I wouldn't ever attempt to define Indian culture either - and I would think anyone who attempted to define it in simple terms was a fool.

That doesn't mean that Indian culture doesn't exist. But there is no single agreed version of Indian culture which stays immutable over time.

Because that is not how cultures work.

Forget 50 years, it's over now. This is no longer a country. As two-tier Keir said, it's now an "island of strangers." The destructive, masochistic, hate-filled Left have used immigration as a tool to destroy national identity. Andrew Neather, a speechwriter for Blair, admitted that their plan was use immigration to "rub the right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date." Personally, I call that fascism – liberal fascism.

I no longer live in a nation with a shared history, shared culture, shared identity, etc. It's a joke. I wouldn't even fly the St George or the Union Jack in case someone threw a brick through my window. Our libraries and universities have been 'de-colonised' and even the literary canon is under attack. When I was young, I knew who I was. I was English-British. My history was the Battle of Britain and the tragedy of the Somme and the poetry of Wilfred Owen. It was Dickens and Jane Austen and Virginia Woolf. Now I no longer feel that way. I don't know who I am.

I hate the people who have done this to me. HATE them. I don't hate 'immigrants'. Certain groups I dislike, but I love the sweet Filipino nurse who lives next door, and the nice Punjabi lady who runs my local shop. It's a question of scale. The small island of Okinawa has its own distinct identity. If ten million white Swedes moved there, they would change the identity of Okinawa forever. It's as simple as 2 + 2 = 4. No one voted for mass immigration or multiculturalism. They were IMPOSED on us.

They weren't Britain. They reversed progress they had made. The older skeletons were aleady there. Different histories.

You seem to have very little confidence in Britain and her people. Why is that?

There wasn't an NHS at all 80 years ago. Barely anyone went to university or even left the area they were born.

@Figtreegirl it's foolish how you scoff and deride British culture. It's just as ignorant as if you sniggered at Indian culture as not being real or definable simply because tikka masala and cricket came from Britain.

@Figtreegirl it's foolish how you scoff and deride British culture. It's just as ignorant as if you sniggered at Indian culture as not being real or definable simply because tikka masala and cricket came from Britain.

@Figtreegirl it's foolish how you scoff and deride British culture. It's just as ignorant as if you sniggered at Indian culture as not being real or definable simply because tikka masala and cricket came from Britain.

I think you need to look a little deeper at the Japanese cultural place of women. It's certainly not Afghanistan, but there's a lot of hidden sexism and sexual abuse.

And what of previously fairly liberal Muslim countries that did offer opportunities, that fell to extreme Sharia?

@Figtreegirl it's foolish how you scoff and deride British culture. It's just as ignorant as if you sniggered at Indian culture as not being real or definable simply because tikka masala and cricket came from Britain.

I think you need to look a little deeper at the Japanese cultural place of women. It's certainly not Afghanistan, but there's a lot of hidden sexism and sexual abuse.

I'm sorry, but you're showing your ignorance. There is no single, universally accepted, definitive scholarly account of what constitutes "British culture". Nor has "British culture" remained stable and immutable over time.

There are interpretations, observations and opinions. Points of agreement and points of disagreement. Things which remain stable and things which evolve and change over time. Aspects which are accepted by the majority and aspects that are accepted by smaller groups. Differences shaped by factors such as geography, history, identity and socio-economic class.

You are seeking to massively oversimplify something that is inherently complex. I understand why you want to do that. But it doesn't work.

But that's just the thing, it isn't my interpretation. It's British culture as according to historians, sociologists, British cultural scholars etc. It has been defined at great length time and again, some people have made it their life's work.
And I very clearly started that no culture is fixed and immutable. I said in an earlier post that is always growing.

Willfully misunderstanding someone is a poor way to try and win a debate, everyone here can see you doing it. My words are right above for all to see. Obviously you have some deep need to believe that there is no traditional British culture in any clear or definable way, and only you can know why it is so important to you to hold on to that fallacy.

Nobody has a permanent culture. Culture changes all the time.