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To think everything will be unrecognisable in 50 years

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CurdinHenry · Today 11:38

Just thinking about how different the UK was in the 70s and how change is supercharged now by tech and mass migration and the loss of shared cultural reference points in TV and newspapers and radio.

I live in Glasgow and many parts of it are no longer at all Scottish-seeming apart from the old sandstone tenements. What even is Scottish any more? It's hard to imagine Scottish independence being taken up by the new communities. But what's next?

I think human societies are programmed to self destruct every so often in the absence of external numbers control pressures and I think that's what's starting now across Europe. We have never had it so good in the history of time yet rage flourishes

What can we do as individuals, I'm just not sure

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LuciferOverLancashire · Today 11:57

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no they don’t !

OrangeFlower14 · Today 11:56

CurdinHenry · Today 11:55

I think people read less and consume films and TV and music less deeply now that phones are a constant psychic nudge. The things that gave us therapy without us realising it have been replaced by tiktok and feeling bad about your car.

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Because of all the shiny Lease cars?

Yeah, I was thinking we are the only people who are just buying an old banger each time now.

frozendaisy · Today 11:56

CurdinHenry · Today 11:47

The seventies sounded awful I agree. Change might be a great thing it wasn't really a value judgement. It's just that the end point of change is unknowable and thus scary.

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You could try and get involved to change things as you would like them

Thinking you are this feeble passenger almost kidnapped from choice is a navel gazing luxury that many before, and now, and in the future do not have.

Read, educate yourself more, read different view points, go out, walk around, look at the sky, this planet will turn and go round the sun for thousands and thousands of years once all humans have departed. You have 70/80 years, a blink of an eye, of your own consciousness to embrace the life which luck has given you.

(As a percentage of income food is still relatively cheap it’s housing that costs part of the frustration of the rioters in Europe right now - and whilst some of them are causing damage and violence there is an understanding of their frustration and at least they are doing something)

Change happens, in waves, always has (history comes into this) we are on a downward slope at the moment but it won’t last forever, depending on your age depends on whether you will see it rising again.

Buy some books, read something to feed your mind of what you want to learn about. Get involved.

It will work out in the end.

OrangeFlower14 · Today 11:55

Figtreegirl · Today 11:54

A wise friend of mine said that everything seemed better when we were younger because we were younger.

I don’t think that relates to what OP is saying
I think OP is saying that people are very angry and can’t see a reason why

It’s not the older people who are angry at the moment - it is the youth

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CurdinHenry · Today 11:55

OrangeFlower14 · Today 11:53

Maybe you’re right I was on a charity shop thread saying” buy less” while people went on and on about ways to make the charity shop problems better

Just buy less isn’t a message anyone wants to hear now

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I think people read less and consume films and TV and music less deeply now that phones are a constant psychic nudge. The things that gave us therapy without us realising it have been replaced by tiktok and feeling bad about your car.

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Figtreegirl · Today 11:54

A wise friend of mine said that everything seemed better when we were younger because we were younger.

OrangeFlower14 · Today 11:53

CurdinHenry · Today 11:52

Before the financial crash I think ordinary people expected less in material terms. Professional people probably had higher hopes for the future, to be fair.

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Maybe you’re right I was on a charity shop thread saying” buy less” while people went on and on about ways to make the charity shop problems better

Just buy less isn’t a message anyone wants to hear now

OrangeFlower14 · Today 11:52

CurdinHenry · Today 11:49

The demographic stats are really startling. I guess it's one way to put an end to the sectarian problem. Well the original one anyway.

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I’ll have to look this up cos I didn’t know there was a sectarian problem in Glasgow My dad and uncle worked there when we were little- really liked it, but I haven’t been for years and years.

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CurdinHenry · Today 11:52

OrangeFlower14 · Today 11:50

@CurdinHenry things were better before the financial crash though maybe you’re too young to know

and then a lot of people if you weren’t affected by the financial crash then going up to 2020 things were better - and then cost of living made it all a big problem

Before the financial crash I think ordinary people expected less in material terms. Professional people probably had higher hopes for the future, to be fair.

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TheGrimSqueakersFlea · Today 11:52

I'm in Glasgow. It's definitely a Scottish city full of Scottish people

OrangeFlower14 · Today 11:50

@CurdinHenry things were better before the financial crash though maybe you’re too young to know

and then a lot of people if you weren’t affected by the financial crash then going up to 2020 things were better - and then cost of living made it all a big problem

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CurdinHenry · Today 11:49

zoeslim · Today 11:43

Agree I was in Glasgow recently it was not like a Scottish city

The demographic stats are really startling. I guess it's one way to put an end to the sectarian problem. Well the original one anyway.

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BorgQueen · Today 11:47

I won’t be around to see it but my Grandson will and I don’t think he’ll have the ‘easy’ life that we, or his parents have had and are having.
I can’t even imagine what this country will look like in 2076, that may still be pockets that I would recognise but I’m not hopeful.
What’s happening in France and Italy is just the beginning, imo.

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CurdinHenry · Today 11:47

frozendaisy · Today 11:45

What can we do as individuals, I'm just not sure

Embrace the changes and stop looking back like the 70s were some rosy utopia that never existed

The seventies sounded awful I agree. Change might be a great thing it wasn't really a value judgement. It's just that the end point of change is unknowable and thus scary.

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CurdinHenry · Today 11:46

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I'm sure you can catch a rerun of love island somewhere babe don't worry about it x

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frozendaisy · Today 11:45

What can we do as individuals, I'm just not sure

Embrace the changes and stop looking back like the 70s were some rosy utopia that never existed

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CurdinHenry · Today 11:45

OrangeFlower14 · Today 11:41

“We have never had it so good in the history of time”

we have though
There’s been a decline in the last few years

No, we haven't. We are wealthier in material terms than we have ever been. But the slightest hardship is experienced as an intolerable injustice now. (I don't mean this as a criticism as I think I feel the same way - food prices going up feels unbearably stressful yet my grandparents each grew up as a dozen children in two rooms). I don't think there is anything to do but examine ourselves and try to do what we can to make people feel more secure.

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zoeslim · Today 11:43

Agree I was in Glasgow recently it was not like a Scottish city

JustWalnut · Today 11:42

Everywhere and everything in Glasgow is Scottish. Because it's in Scotland. Hope that helps.

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OrangeFlower14 · Today 11:41

“We have never had it so good in the history of time”

we have though
There’s been a decline in the last few years

Wildgoat · Today 11:39

What in earth do you mean parts of Glasgow are not Scottish, have you lived elsewhere ?

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