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My DH wants to move out because I washed the car I'm the wrong way

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Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 08:50

Im 41, My DH (50) is recently diagnosed autistic. He's always been pretty rigid so the diagnosis didn't come as a surprise.
Yesterday we were going to his parents house me and the kids were driving there but DH was taking bus from work. The car was really muddy so spur of the moment I decided to drive through the car wash on the way there (his parents are quite judgy so I didnt fancy rocking up in a muddy car). Now full transparency DH has asked me not to go through the car wash as it "ruins the paintwork" but he also promised to wash it himself and has only done that twice since we bought the car in March. Anyway we had a nice time with his family and we went out to the local pub for some food DH and his parents had a couple pints and I entertained the kids and drove everyone home afterwards. But when we got into the car my youngest made a remark that we went through the car wash on the way there. DH was totally silent the whole way home (which was awkward as kids and me were chatting away) and went straight to bed without even saying goodnight to me or the kids. Then when I apologised he freaked out saying I don't respect him as he only asked me "one thing" and it shows what I think of him said everyone would be happier if he lived in an apartment alone. I said it sounds like thats what you want. He said yes that's true. So I said " OK fine I won't stand in your way take the car and go get an apartment" to which he then said angrily "you'd like that wouldn't you. This is my home I'm not leaving" like wtf I can't keep up. This morning he's still not speaking to me.

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Boreded · Today 14:09

BustyLaRoux · Today 13:32

Oh come on. “You’d all be happier if I left” which he apparently repeatedly says is the same as threatening to move out. Or rather he is saying it because he wants the OP to beg him not to. It’s manipulative. She called his bluff this time, which he absolutely deserves if he keeps saying he’ll move out.
And you’re giving the OP a very hard time for “trampling” on poor DH’s feelings. But have you missed the bits where she said he routinely tries to control her, shouts at her when she doesn’t conform to his standards and sulks when he doesn’t get his own way? She went and apologised to him for the car wash. He got annoyed. He didn’t accept her apology. I’m not sure how you can be defending his behaviour when controlling, anger and sulking are patterns seen in abusive relationships. He doesn’t get a free pass to abuse his wife because he’s ND.

I’ve just replied essentially to the same thing above 👆 just saving myself writing it twice.

Boreded · Today 14:08

Aiming4Optimistic · Today 13:27

Disagree. He said the PA " everyone would prefer it if I moved out" and it's not the first time either! OP told him to please himself, and he didn't like that either. He's a manipulative arse and because OP didn't beg him to stay, he's having a sulk.

So someone who says ‘I think you would prefer it if I didn’t live here’ is threatening to move out…really? No they absolutely are not, they’re expressing how they are feeling as though they aren’t wanted, which is the vibe I am getting from the OP to be honest.

Offherrockingchair · Today 14:05

He’s controlling. Big deal, you had the car washed. What a man baby! Fuckity bye to him.

welshpolarbear · Today 14:00

Having a parent who gives the silent treatment and sulks does have a long lasting effect. My Dad was like it our whole childhood. It was horrible to live with, always on egg shells.

Recently, for the first time ever in our 25years together my husband got cross (with the oven not me/us) and threw the spanner on the floor.

I had such a visceral reaction, it took me right back to childhood and the utter dread of the whole atmosphere.

My DH apologised within minutes and it was nothing in the scheme of things, but it brought back childhood trauma that I didn’t realised was so vivid.

If you can make it so you protect your kids from this, I think that’s what you need to do.

KnickerBockerGloriously · Today 13:57

You both sound immature. This is surely a rather childish spat over you using a car wash and him overreacting.

TBH I'd not have washed it just for his parents.
If they commented, all you had to say was it was their son's job and he hadn't done it!

I know for sure that many married couples threaten to leave when there is a row over nothing but usually it blows over.

Surely you can both sit down and patch this up?

You were both in the wrong IMO.

MeridianB · Today 13:56

rubyslippers · Today 08:59

Silent treatment and sulking is abusive
that’s nothing to do with any diagnosis he may have
he sounds nasty and hard work
i think it must be awful living with someone like that

This. Let him go so you and your children don’t have to live with his passive aggressive behaviour.

BriarTime · Today 13:55

Awkwardisfunny · Today 13:43

You decided I meant these "ND" people when I said "these people". I was only referring to the personality traits described by the OP, which a lot of ND people have, but not only them. Anyone who behaves like the OP described is exhausting to be around and I do not recommend it.

PrincessFairyWren was talking about ND people. You then responded to that post, making reference to ‘these people’. But I appreciate the clarification.

Jamlighter · Today 13:44

there is no damage to the car ffs

Awkwardisfunny · Today 13:43

BriarTime · Today 12:05

As a neurodiverse woman I think this is extremely unfair. My partner and I have a healthy, happy relationship, partly because I (like a great many neurodiverse women, actually) don’t let my neurodiversity become an excuse for a lack of personal accountability. If I couldn’t do that, I would remain single rather than expecting another person to set themselves alight to keep me warm. The way neurodiversity is perceived is extremely gendered, all the way from getting a diagnosis and initial support. You see it on these threads all the time. An OP posts about a man behaving like a total shit and you just know someone will be along shortly to diagnose him with something.

You decided I meant these "ND" people when I said "these people". I was only referring to the personality traits described by the OP, which a lot of ND people have, but not only them. Anyone who behaves like the OP described is exhausting to be around and I do not recommend it.

DontBotherJustChooseYourself · Today 13:40

If you remain in this marriage you are going to have to spend the rest of your life effectively 'gentle parenting' a grown toddler.

This is what it becomes when it's all about the other person: their needs, their preferences, and the subsequent emotional abuse when they don't get their own way. Walking on eggshells.

Life is fucking short. This life we each have is the only one we will ever know about.

ForUmberFinch · Today 13:40

Summeriscumin · Today 09:10

I really, really couldn't live with that. OP. This is the rest of your life.

Ditto. Autism/ND is no excuse for abusive behaviour. And that’s what he’s subjecting you to. As the child of a parent who is clearly ND but at 70 will never change or acknowledge it, my childhood was made hell by them. Get out now.

ScaramoucheCanYouDoTheFandango · Today 13:38

ApronSprings · Today 12:10

The point is, if he wants it done a certain way then he should do it himself. They are his judgemental parents, so it is his problem.

Maybe he doesn’t care if his parents judge him for a bit of dirt 🤷🏻‍♀️

“The point” is OP unilaterally decided to knowingly “damage” the paintwork on their car, it will cost a lot of money to fix it, some of it may be permanent, and he is not unreasonable to be upset by that.

He is unreasonable to have such an extreme reaction. What OP did was wrong, his over reaction and the way they argue is the main issue and unhealthy.

sittingonabeach · Today 13:38

JamSwirl · Today 09:25

Well it's not good he asked for one thing that mattered to him, and you decided your way was better. I'm not sure being nd has anything to do with that.

I think this boils down to he knows you don't want him around. You even said so yourself. And it seems there are some things he doesn't like about you. So to be kind to all you should figure that out as you clearly don't suit living together. But don't chuck him out of his own home or threaten that. Isn't that pretty cruel.

She didn't think her way was the best, it would appear her way was the only way as he doesn't bother to wash the car.

I also assume he doesn't do much parenting, so having to wash the car is yet another chore for OP

BustyLaRoux · Today 13:32

Boreded · Today 13:24

He didn’t threaten to move out. He just said that they would probably all prefer it if he did. When she told him to go get an apartment he told her he wasn’t leaving.

OP has mislead in the title

Oh come on. “You’d all be happier if I left” which he apparently repeatedly says is the same as threatening to move out. Or rather he is saying it because he wants the OP to beg him not to. It’s manipulative. She called his bluff this time, which he absolutely deserves if he keeps saying he’ll move out.
And you’re giving the OP a very hard time for “trampling” on poor DH’s feelings. But have you missed the bits where she said he routinely tries to control her, shouts at her when she doesn’t conform to his standards and sulks when he doesn’t get his own way? She went and apologised to him for the car wash. He got annoyed. He didn’t accept her apology. I’m not sure how you can be defending his behaviour when controlling, anger and sulking are patterns seen in abusive relationships. He doesn’t get a free pass to abuse his wife because he’s ND.

NotPerfectlyAdverage · Today 13:32

I think you need to spell it out to him very clearly and point out that marriage is give and take.

Give him two choices. Im going out with the kids and you are free to join us. But if you choose not to engage please do not say your lonely as this is your free choice.

I need the car clean. Either you clean it to your exacting standards as you clearly have very strong views, or I will clean it. But let's be clear, my way will never meet your standards as its never good enough so there is your choice.

I'd also be saying that he either chooses to work on his rigidness and be part of a imperfect family home with imperfect humans, or lives rigid perfection alone as you will never measure up and his attitude effects you and you have a right to enjoy your one life.

I live in ND household. Home truths are dealt out weekly otherwise you raise un self aware humans. Luckily people also hit me with home truths too. People who choose to be mortality offended rather than self reflect are that's.

You can be ND and a arsehole. Its not mutually exclusive.

Aiming4Optimistic · Today 13:27

Boreded · Today 13:24

He didn’t threaten to move out. He just said that they would probably all prefer it if he did. When she told him to go get an apartment he told her he wasn’t leaving.

OP has mislead in the title

Disagree. He said the PA " everyone would prefer it if I moved out" and it's not the first time either! OP told him to please himself, and he didn't like that either. He's a manipulative arse and because OP didn't beg him to stay, he's having a sulk.

Isobel201 · Today 13:25

YANBU I've been through mechanical car washers with a person who pre-washes first and the paint work has never been damaged. But it sounds like you have bigger issues than just the car.

Boreded · Today 13:24

Aiming4Optimistic · Today 13:16

People who threaten to move out, to control the behaviour of their spouse, deserve to be told to crack on. FAFO!

It's not his neurodiversity that's the problem - it's his personality. He's a dick! Your kids would be much happier not living in a household where dad feels he has a right to control how everybody else lives. I think you'd be doing them a huge solid if you separated now - can you imagine what he'll be like with them when they are stroppy, argumentative teenagers?

Id have taken the car through the car wash - he had plenty of opportunity to do it himself and chose to be lazy and not do it.i wouldn't tolerate the silent treatment either.

He didn’t threaten to move out. He just said that they would probably all prefer it if he did. When she told him to go get an apartment he told her he wasn’t leaving.

OP has mislead in the title

Boreded · Today 13:22

Maninasuitcase · Today 12:52

Only on Mumsnet. Neuro-diverse the get together out of jail free card. This is such an over reaction, it suggests he’s a complete tossed. How have you coped with behaviour like this long enough to have children.

maybe for children…mumsnet is notorious for people excusing their children because of autism etc, but then all of a sudden when the same children are adults they are expected to have learned empathy and compromise, and if they haven’t then they must be toxic.

It is mad to be honest. And the particular struggle with this is if their parents allow them to carry on without masking or learning to deal with life, because as soon as they get husbands/wives and they don’t know how to handle compromise or unknowns and react they are called controlling or coercive.

Imagine being an adult who as a child was told it is ok to be autistic and need people to bend to suit you, only to find that this isn’t how the world actually works.

Brokentoes85 · Today 13:22

Autism or no autism, he said he'd clean it and hasn't. He doesn't get to dictate how you clean it. Car washes do not damage paintwork.

Daftypants · Today 13:19

Oh god , to a NT person you could say “ well you have only washed it by hand yourself x 2 since March so what was I supposed to do ! “
But a ND ..well …😭 currently dealing with one diagnosed and one suspected in this house .
I’ve had the silent treatment/ sulking and I’m worn out

Ilovelifeverymuch · Today 13:18

NeverDropYourMooncup · Today 09:33

Simple solution if he wont leave.

You own half the car at least. I'd take an electric sander to every panel. Right along the middle of it

Hahaha ok it's official, you're crazier than I am 😂 😆

Aiming4Optimistic · Today 13:16

People who threaten to move out, to control the behaviour of their spouse, deserve to be told to crack on. FAFO!

It's not his neurodiversity that's the problem - it's his personality. He's a dick! Your kids would be much happier not living in a household where dad feels he has a right to control how everybody else lives. I think you'd be doing them a huge solid if you separated now - can you imagine what he'll be like with them when they are stroppy, argumentative teenagers?

Id have taken the car through the car wash - he had plenty of opportunity to do it himself and chose to be lazy and not do it.i wouldn't tolerate the silent treatment either.

Boreded · Today 13:15

He doesn’t want to leave because you washed the car the wrong way. He wants to leave because he asked you not to do something, and you trampled all over his boundaries and hid it from him. AND he didn’t actually say he wanted to leave you, that’s just your misleading title.

Lying is unacceptable to many, and to a person with autism it can be even harder to deal with. You know that you are in the wrong but still you worded it in a way that made it seem as though your husband is the one who is being unreasonable.

Is the lie he is upset about small, yes, would it matter to most, no…but it matters to him. He specifically asked you not to do something but you did it anyway, you showed a huge amount of disrespect.

Did you actually show the situation the gravity you should have? Or did you try to minimise it or tell him he was being ridiculous/silly when he showed how much it bothered him? To him it is rational, even if it is irrational to you. Try giving him a sincere apology and telling him that you didn’t realise it was so important to you, and that you won’t do it again, but that he needs to agree to a cleaning schedule for the car.

BustyLaRoux · Today 13:13

Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 09:15

I've asked previously for us to attend couples counselling and he has refused . I would prefer to exhaust every avenue before ending the marriage but yeah I don't think there is much real love there for either of us so ultimately separation is the most likely scenario
It's mostly me and the kids together and then him off in some other room by himself but then he complains of being lonely.

Get rid of him. Honestly you don’t need this controlling sulking man in your life. A close relative of mine is married to someone we suspect is autistic and it’s the same kind of situation you’ve described. Very rigid thinking about how things SHOULD be done. No room for other viewpoints. Their way is the only correct way and they cannot tolerate any deviance. Also quite extreme reactions when things are not done properly. Lots of shouting, slamming doors, storming off. Followed by refusal to speak for hours and hours. It’s exhausting and is abusive to the other members of the household. Their child is quite anxious due to having to walk on eggshells all the time. My relative has come to accept the behaviour as normal but everyone else in my family can see how bad it is. I hope one day they will find the courage to leave. You don’t have to tolerate your DH’s sulks and controlling behaviours and it’s not your fault if he is lonely.

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