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Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 08:50

Im 41, My DH (50) is recently diagnosed autistic. He's always been pretty rigid so the diagnosis didn't come as a surprise.
Yesterday we were going to his parents house me and the kids were driving there but DH was taking bus from work. The car was really muddy so spur of the moment I decided to drive through the car wash on the way there (his parents are quite judgy so I didnt fancy rocking up in a muddy car). Now full transparency DH has asked me not to go through the car wash as it "ruins the paintwork" but he also promised to wash it himself and has only done that twice since we bought the car in March. Anyway we had a nice time with his family and we went out to the local pub for some food DH and his parents had a couple pints and I entertained the kids and drove everyone home afterwards. But when we got into the car my youngest made a remark that we went through the car wash on the way there. DH was totally silent the whole way home (which was awkward as kids and me were chatting away) and went straight to bed without even saying goodnight to me or the kids. Then when I apologised he freaked out saying I don't respect him as he only asked me "one thing" and it shows what I think of him said everyone would be happier if he lived in an apartment alone. I said it sounds like thats what you want. He said yes that's true. So I said " OK fine I won't stand in your way take the car and go get an apartment" to which he then said angrily "you'd like that wouldn't you. This is my home I'm not leaving" like wtf I can't keep up. This morning he's still not speaking to me.

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BoredZelda · Today 20:04

DingDongBerrily · Today 09:53

Strangely, I kind of understand your DH's point of view. He asked you specifically not to do something, and told you the reason, but you went ahead and did it anyway.

It’s one thing to say not to do something a specific way, but quite another not to ever do that thing yourself and expect the other person to put in all the effort.

The request must be reasonable to start with, and this one isn’t.

Ilovelifeverymuch · Today 19:35

likelysuspect · Today 17:53

Just in respect of your very last sentence, who on earth 'explains' to anyone why their car is dirty, does anyone care why someone elses car is dirty? I must live in a different world, I wouldnt notcie someones car being dirty. Dont even notice my own!!

Normal people don't but apparently his parents can't help themselves and must comments about things like that and as usual it's through snide comments to the wife not their son.

KWaldron · Today 19:18

Boreded · Today 16:41

A lie by omission is still a lie

I agree with a PP who thinks you're the OP's husband. You've dictated that she must report everything she does in a day for your approval?

BigBadPotato · Today 18:52

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · Today 08:54

Ask him to go and look at the car to find the damage. Then when he's outside lock all your doors and force him to go and live in an apartment by himself.

😂

seriously tho op, you don’t need to live with this sort of shit, walking on eggshells and doing as you’re told lest he lose his shit at you again, and again and again. And your children definitely don’t need this crap. Let him go, the arsehole.

likelysuspect · Today 18:39

UraniumFlowerpot · Today 14:39

Really? Is everyone just looking for conflict all the time? Surely a request like don’t use the car wash is normal to ignore if there’s a particular reason and especially when the agreement that he wash it instead wasn’t honored. Then if he pushed back again it would be worse to ignore a second time but also worse if he again didn’t wash it himself. Surely living together involves hundreds of these little negotiations and judgment calls and preferences. It’s not normal to treat every stated preference as an absolute rule. Is it?

Are you new to MN?

Thread after thread after thread of small, minor issues blown out of all proportion because 'he's showing you who he really is', because he ate the wrong thing or used this thing, or didnt use this thing, any number of issues where the OP is a) looking for conflict and b) advised to look for conflict.

Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 18:34

N3WN8ME · Today 18:20

Was there anything in particular that helped you learn to break free of his rules? I think my partner is similar and kids similar ages.

Mostly it was building up my own self esteem and feeling OK with disappointing/upsetting him. We had a lot of uncomfortable conversations but in the end I just said if he wanted to stay isolating that was his perogative but I was done Iiving half a life (this was almost a year after the actual testrictions were lifted) I ended up eventually catching covid and passing it to him and the kids he was so angry about that but i just made sure not to apologise as I had nothing to apologise for. It is an extremely contagious virus and it wasn't my fault.
Eventually he moved on with his life too and stopped wearing masks etc

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N3WN8ME · Today 18:20

Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 09:55

I think for me it's triggered me back to 2021/2022 where he was so rigid about covid even way after the guidance was lifted. He didn't want me leaving the house with the kids. I remember him freaking out at me because i ordered takeaway and he thought that was too dangerous. He watched me on the ring doorbell and got angry because a delivery guy got too close. I had two young kids and felt so isolated. He would never be violent or anything just the same as this, saying that I didn't care about him and got silent. I went to counselling and learned to break free of his rules

Was there anything in particular that helped you learn to break free of his rules? I think my partner is similar and kids similar ages.

Arabelllllllla · Today 18:15

Boreded · Today 15:36

I’m not trying to, I am just unhappy with the misleading thread title and the way the OP has positioned it as her husband being a problem and everyone has decided that he must be controlling or abusive.

He is literally a normal person who has some quirks because of his autism. He is maintaining his boundaries.

They do need to find a better way to communicate, but it would help if the OP didn’t lie to him and wasn’t so dismissive of him.

Oh behave yourself. You're actually doing autistic people a great disservice by equating their quirks to controlling and unreasonable behaviour over a long period of time.

Are you that judge who excused boys from a custodial sentence for sexual assault because of neurodivergence?? Because that's what your post is giving.

Im ND and have quirks. I dont stonewall my partner because he washed the car. Or ban him from leaving the house. Those are not boundaries.

Stop calling the OP a liar, you are gross. She's responded to you and been very gracious about your nonsense. You should apologise and have a take a long hard look in the mirror. Because you are being deeply unpleasant.

likelysuspect · Today 18:12

Yes he didnt clean it. OP wanted it cleaned. In households where a clean car is important for some reason there needs to be then a discussion about what happens

I would have thought one party says 'the car is filthy, we're driving to your parents this weekend and they'll comment, are you going to clean it by hand or do we run it through the car wash'

But clearly no conversation was had

Its by the by in any case because as OP has said theres many other issues and his ND traits, in his case, does make him abusive. As another poster says you really cant have relationships with these people easily. For everyone saying ND doesnt make someone abusibe/controlling, well that depends on how significantly they are affected with rigid black and white thinking, lack of empathy, high anxiety about change, PDA profiles and rejection sensitivity. Advice for OP about 'talking' and 'talkinga bout feelings' is not necessarily helpful if he cant even understand his feelings and communicate them in a way that makes sense, many ND sufferers cant do that.

DeftGoldHedgehog · Today 18:02

I'd go mad. I'd tell him to not be so ridiculous and either wash the car or I will put it through the car wash.

Plus kids often love a car wash. Why deny them because Buzz Killington-Funsponge says no, and for a totally spurious reason.

Stinkybooks · Today 17:59

Op I think yanbu. He’s behaving badly. I. Autistic. It’s not an excuse for being g a pita.

@Boreded yabvu. There’s no drip and the thread title is fine.

BriarTime · Today 17:56

Bitsostuff · Today 17:46

I'm not sure that's true. I think yes it is about control but it's possible that the need for control is rooted in anxiety- that's fairly common with asd. My BiL (autistic) has lots of things that he feels only he can do because they won't be done "properly" if a third party steps in - and to be fair, when he does something like DIY or decorate it is done to an extremely high standard. However it is also true that he has a lot on his plate and is a champion procrastinator, so, left to his own devices, their house would be falling apart with all these jobs that only he can sort.

In his case the answer has been to put time limits on things (if you don't do x in the next month I will get someone else in to do it) combined with finding some extremely good tradesmen who will work to his (exacting) standards. But my sil loves him and they have the time and the money to do this.

I’m afraid the way OP’s husband reacted and has been behaving since makes me think your brother-in-law’s example is perhaps not the most analogous here, though I respect your point of view.

likelysuspect · Today 17:53

Sassylovesbooks · Today 10:28

An Autism diagnosis isn't a green card to treat people like crap. Yes, people with Autism can be very rigid in their thinking but giving you the silent treatment and sulking, isn't an exclusive Autistic trait, that he can't help. That's an arsehole trait!

My husband won't use mechanised car washes, as yes, over time, they can damage the paintwork, as the brushes etc are very harsh. However, using the mechanised car wash once, isn't going to cause significant damage.

Tell your husband that the silent treatment/sulking isn't acceptable. Next time he needs to chose a date to clean the car by hand, and stick to it, rather than keep putting it off or the car stays dirty. He then can explain to people why the car is filthy.

Just in respect of your very last sentence, who on earth 'explains' to anyone why their car is dirty, does anyone care why someone elses car is dirty? I must live in a different world, I wouldnt notcie someones car being dirty. Dont even notice my own!!

Bitsostuff · Today 17:46

BriarTime · Today 17:39

None of this is about the car. It’s about control. If it were about the car it would never have escalated to the point where OP had to intervene. It was a test.

I'm not sure that's true. I think yes it is about control but it's possible that the need for control is rooted in anxiety- that's fairly common with asd. My BiL (autistic) has lots of things that he feels only he can do because they won't be done "properly" if a third party steps in - and to be fair, when he does something like DIY or decorate it is done to an extremely high standard. However it is also true that he has a lot on his plate and is a champion procrastinator, so, left to his own devices, their house would be falling apart with all these jobs that only he can sort.

In his case the answer has been to put time limits on things (if you don't do x in the next month I will get someone else in to do it) combined with finding some extremely good tradesmen who will work to his (exacting) standards. But my sil loves him and they have the time and the money to do this.

Genevieva · Today 17:42

His diagnosis doesn’t excuse his behaviour. It is a tool to help him, as an adult, remember when his reactions are unacceptable.

BriarTime · Today 17:39

Timeforanothernamechange3 · Today 17:38

If you've suggested marriage counselling and he isn't willing to engage, then really the next step is divorce I'm afraid.

If he wants to keep his car in pristine condition, he needs to be washing and polishing it by hand once a week. If he hasn't washed it for months, he really can't care that much.

None of this is about the car. It’s about control. If it were about the car it would never have escalated to the point where OP had to intervene. It was a test.

Timeforanothernamechange3 · Today 17:38

If you've suggested marriage counselling and he isn't willing to engage, then really the next step is divorce I'm afraid.

If he wants to keep his car in pristine condition, he needs to be washing and polishing it by hand once a week. If he hasn't washed it for months, he really can't care that much.

powershowerforanhour · Today 17:34

Boreded · Today 15:36

I’m not trying to, I am just unhappy with the misleading thread title and the way the OP has positioned it as her husband being a problem and everyone has decided that he must be controlling or abusive.

He is literally a normal person who has some quirks because of his autism. He is maintaining his boundaries.

They do need to find a better way to communicate, but it would help if the OP didn’t lie to him and wasn’t so dismissive of him.

He's "maintaining his boundaries" with razor wire, a high voltage electric fence and watchtowers with Kalashnikov toting guards.

Yeah nah fuck that.

JayJayj · Today 17:33

Boreded · Today 15:36

I’m not trying to, I am just unhappy with the misleading thread title and the way the OP has positioned it as her husband being a problem and everyone has decided that he must be controlling or abusive.

He is literally a normal person who has some quirks because of his autism. He is maintaining his boundaries.

They do need to find a better way to communicate, but it would help if the OP didn’t lie to him and wasn’t so dismissive of him.

Do you know what a boundary is?? I hate how much people misuse the word.

It isn’t a boundary he set. He just said he doesn’t want the car washed in a car wash. Said he would wash it. He didn’t so she got the car washed. That’s as simple as it is.

He can’t use autism as an excuse to be a knob head.

Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 17:28

Boreded · Today 15:36

I’m not trying to, I am just unhappy with the misleading thread title and the way the OP has positioned it as her husband being a problem and everyone has decided that he must be controlling or abusive.

He is literally a normal person who has some quirks because of his autism. He is maintaining his boundaries.

They do need to find a better way to communicate, but it would help if the OP didn’t lie to him and wasn’t so dismissive of him.

I never lied i didnt even hide it. I literally rocked up in a shining car when it had been covered in mud that morning. He didn't notice until my daughter said about the car wash I hadn't asked the kids to not mention it. I genuinely thought it wouldn't be that big of a deal.
He said that we would be happier if he moved out into his own apartment and I said "no, you are the one that wants that" and he said "yes that's true". He literally said its true that he wants to move out into his own place. But then backtracked when I said "go ahead so".... really not getting how I'm a liar

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BustyLaRoux · Today 17:10

Boreded · Today 16:41

A lie by omission is still a lie

She shouldn’t have to omit anything. He doesn’t make the rules! (Except he thinks he does and controls her behaviour through angry outbursts and sulking and spying on her behaviour on the ring doorbell camera). Not fucking normal. Not defendable. And not OP’s fault.

I don’t know why you’ve got it in for OP Mr @Brownhotwaterbottle … 🤔

Aiming4Optimistic · Today 16:55

It was an unreasonable 'request' in the first place. If she chose not to announce that she'd been to the car wash (I mean ffs, the ridiculousness of needing to hide it says it all about her husband), it's because he's such a bullying dick.

Doozycan · Today 16:52

Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 08:50

Im 41, My DH (50) is recently diagnosed autistic. He's always been pretty rigid so the diagnosis didn't come as a surprise.
Yesterday we were going to his parents house me and the kids were driving there but DH was taking bus from work. The car was really muddy so spur of the moment I decided to drive through the car wash on the way there (his parents are quite judgy so I didnt fancy rocking up in a muddy car). Now full transparency DH has asked me not to go through the car wash as it "ruins the paintwork" but he also promised to wash it himself and has only done that twice since we bought the car in March. Anyway we had a nice time with his family and we went out to the local pub for some food DH and his parents had a couple pints and I entertained the kids and drove everyone home afterwards. But when we got into the car my youngest made a remark that we went through the car wash on the way there. DH was totally silent the whole way home (which was awkward as kids and me were chatting away) and went straight to bed without even saying goodnight to me or the kids. Then when I apologised he freaked out saying I don't respect him as he only asked me "one thing" and it shows what I think of him said everyone would be happier if he lived in an apartment alone. I said it sounds like thats what you want. He said yes that's true. So I said " OK fine I won't stand in your way take the car and go get an apartment" to which he then said angrily "you'd like that wouldn't you. This is my home I'm not leaving" like wtf I can't keep up. This morning he's still not speaking to me.

Oh the awkwardness of having a OH blow up. Does he always give orders and have his way sounds like its his way or the highway.
I do agree carwashes can mark paintwork as the brushes spin and cause swirls. Personally never have and never will ever use them again. Hand car washes are best especially for a newer car.

Boreded · Today 16:41

BustyLaRoux · Today 16:28

No. The first post makes him look like a sulking asshole. The latter posts make him look like an angry sulking asshole. Not a drip feed at all. The context hasn’t changed with the updates.

Also seeing as you’re so fond of the literal, can you explain where it says OP lied about washing the car? She didn’t announce she’d been through a car wash. He didn’t ask. Why does he get to impose the rule? Doesn’t her preference for convenience and a clean car count for anything? Why does that make her a liar?

A lie by omission is still a lie

Scandelabra · Today 16:40

Boreded · Today 16:16

It was a drip, the first post makes him look like someone who is unhappy his boundaries have been trampled on. The updates have changed the context significantly so portray them both in a bad light instead of just the OP

One is a liar and the other is an asshole…like I said, which came first and which caused the other I really don’t know.

I do know that they shouldn’t be together, and it’s quite simple

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No, it was clear to most people that he was an asshole in the first post and that continued in the following ones. He has sulked and threatened to leave over the way his wife washed a car. I mean…

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