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Using AI to remove school photo watermarks

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marblyarch · Yesterday 21:01

I’m surprised at how many people are doing this. Some school mums were discussing it after I mentioned forking out for DSs photographs (20 pounds for one digital image), sort of in a ‘why would you pay for them when ChatGPT removes the watermarks for free!’ I mentioned it later to my sister who proceeded to show me how she’d done it with my nieces school images! To be fair they looked great! No difference at all and she saved £££. But it just feels a bit off to me? If everyone starts doing it then professional school photos just won’t happen anymore…

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YksiKaksiKolme · Today 14:20

We had to pay £30 each picture.
And you are surprised?
We simply didn't buy any.

Sherararara · Today 14:18

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · Today 13:54

Jesus fucking Christ, do you always speak to people like they’re stupid?

Well you did literally say you didn’t understand..

Sherararara · Today 14:17

Yes it’s theft etc but it’s also a sign of the evolving landscape. Photographers are going to have to change their business model. Their photos are simply too expensive so of course people will do this. In the short term I expect they will develop more severe ways to watermark the previews in such a manner they can’t easily be removed. Long term it’s probably the death of the school
photograher.

Sherararara · Today 14:13

Arabelllllllla · Yesterday 21:16

Not only is it theft as other people have pointed out, but why are people uploading pictures of their kids to AI?!

Honestly have these parents been living under a rock. That picture can now be used for any purpose by the AI generator. Including child p*rn. It's diabolical.

Stop uploading pics of your kids to AI and to public social media accounts. Wild.

Absolutely any online photo of you or your kids can be used for “nefarious” ai purposes. Unless you plan to go to the extremes of having zero online footprint, it pretty pointless worrying about it.

SockPlant · Today 14:09

it is theft. Don't do it.

HylianShroom · Today 14:09

Onemanpedrodiablo · Yesterday 21:21

😂 pretty sure chatgpt isn't using uploaded school photos to make sexual abuse images of children as some kind of ai side hustle!

You’re completely wrong. Have you been living under a rock?

Wingwalk · Today 13:57

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · Today 13:54

Jesus fucking Christ, do you always speak to people like they’re stupid?

No. You said you had "no idea how people are doing it"

Accordingly I spoke to you like you were someone who had no idea how AI works. Which tbf is the impression you gave. If in fact you know lots about AI then I apologise.

ThatRedFish · Today 13:55

So many school photographers are talentless these days, they know how to use a camera and that is it!! You can get a better photo on your bog standard phone without having done any course etc…..

I think school photographers are absolute sharks, knowing parents will feel pressured to buy their awful work. Considering the lack of school photographer talent, and that the whole enterprise was probably funded by mum and dad to show their darling child they are talented…. A paid photographer…..

I don’t think it’s particularly wrong or immoral for parents to do this. I think what they do is quite immoral. I know 2 wrongs don’t make a right…. However, also, I do think there is some justification there…..

Parents will just show their DC they bought the terrible photo and display a nicer picture.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · Today 13:54

Wingwalk · Today 13:52

ChatGPT is not the only AI provider on the Internet you know. There's hundreds. Lots of them will do a lot worse than just removing a watermark. Another great reason not to upload photos of your kids (although it sounds like you already have)

Jesus fucking Christ, do you always speak to people like they’re stupid?

Wingwalk · Today 13:52

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · Today 13:49

I just tried (with a photo I don’t like, I’m going to pay for one of the better ones), and ChatGPT refused, so I’ve no idea how people are actually doing it.

ChatGPT is not the only AI provider on the Internet you know. There's hundreds. Lots of them will do a lot worse than just removing a watermark. Another great reason not to upload photos of your kids (although it sounds like you already have)

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · Today 13:49

I just tried (with a photo I don’t like, I’m going to pay for one of the better ones), and ChatGPT refused, so I’ve no idea how people are actually doing it.

NewNameW · Today 13:49

Wingwalk · Today 13:04

Do you steal other stuff that your kids want but you can't afford? Sweets etc? Books?

Edited

Nope

WimbyAce · Today 13:49

We always buy them although I agree it is expensive. Then there is the whole class photo (don't buy this) and ours also does a leaver's photo at the end of Year 4 and I believe they also do a leaver's photo at the end of Year 8 so you could be spending a fortune on school photos. I can see why people are looking for loopholes as they could offer cheaper packages. Also the school itself gets commission and this can vary eg our middle school asks for more than our first school so this puts the price up.

Shatenoeuf · Today 13:39

You cant do it so easily at ours. You get sent a link to the photo then you can only view a thin slice of the picture, you move the mouse to move the slice up and down to view different bits. You probably still can steal it if you try hard enough but im not a thief.

Medicalgrademusic · Today 13:21

I don't understand why people are using the justification that school photos are shit to do this? If the school photos are shit, by all means don't buy them. But if you are using AI to remove the watermark you clearly like the photos and want them but aren't prepared to pay for them. It's a really shitty way to behave.

Exhaustedand · Today 13:10

It's theft and is wrong.

Wingwalk · Today 13:04

NewNameW · Today 11:54

I have hundreds of pictures of my children in school uniform, I would happily do without professional photos - but the school makes the event of it and my kids also want the pictures.

If it's any help I've never bothered with a class photo 😊

I paid for them for a while until the prices kept getting higher and higher but the quality never changed

Do you steal other stuff that your kids want but you can't afford? Sweets etc? Books?

TheFishFish · Today 13:01

Scummy as fuck, obviously.

C152 · Today 12:43

Perhaps they should lower the cost of school photos? Particularly when some are taken by people who don't seem to care about the quality of their work. I don't buy school photos because I can take a better photo myself on the first day of every school year. It might be nice for DS to have a whole class photo but not worth the outrageous price. The best photo we've had? When the reception teacher took a whole class photo on a dress-up day.

NewNameW · Today 11:56

godmum56 · Yesterday 22:32

then tell the people who want one that if they want one, they must pay for it.

Valid point, but honestly was never anything I ever considered. It would be sensible to do that though

NewNameW · Today 11:54

Wingwalk · Yesterday 22:00

Why don't you get your "friend who works in photography" to take a picture of your kid in uniform rather than both of you stealing one off someone else?

I have hundreds of pictures of my children in school uniform, I would happily do without professional photos - but the school makes the event of it and my kids also want the pictures.

If it's any help I've never bothered with a class photo 😊

I paid for them for a while until the prices kept getting higher and higher but the quality never changed

Piglet89 · Yesterday 23:11

Onemanpedrodiablo · Yesterday 21:21

😂 pretty sure chatgpt isn't using uploaded school photos to make sexual abuse images of children as some kind of ai side hustle!

Are you?

TinyLittleThings · Yesterday 23:10

marblyarch · Yesterday 21:01

I’m surprised at how many people are doing this. Some school mums were discussing it after I mentioned forking out for DSs photographs (20 pounds for one digital image), sort of in a ‘why would you pay for them when ChatGPT removes the watermarks for free!’ I mentioned it later to my sister who proceeded to show me how she’d done it with my nieces school images! To be fair they looked great! No difference at all and she saved £££. But it just feels a bit off to me? If everyone starts doing it then professional school photos just won’t happen anymore…

Really, the photos online should be very low resolution so you can't do this well. They should catch on if sales get lower

Littlemisssunshine1982 · Yesterday 23:01

My sister is a school photographer and a couple of weeks ago she was ready to call it quits, she had written out the email to send to all her schools as her sales had plummeted, before she sent it she had one more stab at seeing what she can do to save her career as she’s been doing it for 22 years now and loves what she does. she’s now found a way that when people screenshot the image it just is a black screen when they go to view the photo in their gallery. For anyone doing this it’s not just a person coming in taking a few photos and sending them off to be printed or edited she does this all herself, she will be up until 1.30am editing hundreds of photos then she has to deal with people emailing her some people being shitty with her because the photos have not been uploaded that night!
she will make sure your child’s hair and face are photo ready and there’s an awful lot of sen children now who are either running around her equipment and pulling at wires and others who sit there sullen and she manages to get at least one pic with them smiling as she prances around and uses props to get that smile. So please before you decide to steal that photo that a photographer has worked their arse off to get please think about the person behind the camera and their livelihood

Autumnalhibernationisthedream · Yesterday 22:56

Good old chat gpt getting one over on small businesses again. Gotta love all the people saying but they cost so much! A small business spends a day at a school photographing a hundred children then has to print off the photos using expensive paper and ink (anyone who has a printer will know the ridiculous cost). Stop justifying stealing.