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To think the French students are out of control?

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ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Yesterday 19:53

Demonstrating against large class sizes is one thing.

Smashing up shop windows and looting goods is another.

Idiots. They are 14/15 and when they are arrested the French authorities will come down on them and their criminal records will stay with them forever. Where are the parents in all of this?

Woukd this happen in the UK?

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PenelopeShadow · Today 13:12

OP.

You ask if the riots are out of control.

I think they are absolutely controlled by those who wish France-and indeed the West-harm.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 13:12

PumpkinSeasonIsHere · Today 12:54

You know it’s happened relatively recently though, right? When was it, 2010?

It has happened a few times in England. Never about welfare cuts.
That is just punching down to say those in welfare are violent, when time after time left wing educated individuals are showing violent behaviour.

Thelitterpibgs · Today 13:06

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I am an art and history lover and all that, but what’s striking to me is when the same people stay silent when people burn houses and hotels in working class areas inhabited by POC.

DebbieSavage · Today 13:03

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EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 12:57

PammyPrang · Today 12:46

I only hope the powers that be are geared up for any copycat rioting here - I’m sure various factions are drooling at the thought of destroying a few lovely London landmarks, and egging on lowlifes to loot to their hearts’ content.

I was in a French town a few weeks ago and the church had been damaged by arsonists. The locals said everyone knew who had done it but the authorities have the “electrical fault” excuse at the ready.

I have noticed an increase in churches mysteriously burning down and grave yards being destroyed.
It is going to spread. Europe is a tinderbox. Government officials have ignored mass immigration and stretched services.

PumpkinSeasonIsHere · Today 12:54

Electra10E · Today 12:51

Oddly, I think that you would only see people on the streets in the UK, if you cut welfare, materially.

So, that’s not going to happen, is it…

You know it’s happened relatively recently though, right? When was it, 2010?

Electra10E · Today 12:51

PammyPrang · Today 12:46

I only hope the powers that be are geared up for any copycat rioting here - I’m sure various factions are drooling at the thought of destroying a few lovely London landmarks, and egging on lowlifes to loot to their hearts’ content.

I was in a French town a few weeks ago and the church had been damaged by arsonists. The locals said everyone knew who had done it but the authorities have the “electrical fault” excuse at the ready.

Oddly, I think that you would only see people on the streets in the UK, if you cut welfare, materially.

So, that’s not going to happen, is it…

CandidLurker · Today 12:49

TheTideIsNigh · Yesterday 21:13

They weren’t getting professional jobs (or jobs at all) before this anyway - that’s a big part of the problem.

If it is frightening maybe it is time that western governments (and the older generations that elect them) thought a bit more about inter-generational fairness.

And the deep racial inequalities in France

EasternStandard · Today 12:46

BorgQueen · Today 12:34

Looting shops is ‘funny’ is it?
All a jolly wheeze while it happens to others, not so fucking amusing if you’re a shop worker / owner being attacked or an 80 year old couple caught up in it and robbed by feral scum.
How would you like to be caught up in it, maybe having a chimney pot thrown off a roof land on your head? Hilarious right?
The only funny thing I saw was two thugs getting flattened by a falling plate glass window they were trying to smash.

I haven’t seen that but did see a poor distraught woman saying stop this is not the cause. They went in anyway.

The responsibility lies with those people smashing things up.

PammyPrang · Today 12:46

I only hope the powers that be are geared up for any copycat rioting here - I’m sure various factions are drooling at the thought of destroying a few lovely London landmarks, and egging on lowlifes to loot to their hearts’ content.

I was in a French town a few weeks ago and the church had been damaged by arsonists. The locals said everyone knew who had done it but the authorities have the “electrical fault” excuse at the ready.

notimagain · Today 12:40

Looking at TV it does look like the Left of centre politicians (mainly LFI) and their associated Syndicats (CGT etc) are digging their heels in on right to protest/awful police brutality.

I get the constitutional angle behind this but I'm not sure they seem to realise or worse still even care that they are probably handing next year's Presidential to the RN on plate

KathleenDarleenDayKnight · Today 12:39

BorgQueen · Today 12:34

Looting shops is ‘funny’ is it?
All a jolly wheeze while it happens to others, not so fucking amusing if you’re a shop worker / owner being attacked or an 80 year old couple caught up in it and robbed by feral scum.
How would you like to be caught up in it, maybe having a chimney pot thrown off a roof land on your head? Hilarious right?
The only funny thing I saw was two thugs getting flattened by a falling plate glass window they were trying to smash.

Did you see the horrifying images of the elderly couple stripped to their underwear?
I won't post the link as they've been degraded enough, but I've got it saved if anyone doesn't believe me.

BorgQueen · Today 12:34

Looting shops is ‘funny’ is it?
All a jolly wheeze while it happens to others, not so fucking amusing if you’re a shop worker / owner being attacked or an 80 year old couple caught up in it and robbed by feral scum.
How would you like to be caught up in it, maybe having a chimney pot thrown off a roof land on your head? Hilarious right?
The only funny thing I saw was two thugs getting flattened by a falling plate glass window they were trying to smash.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · Today 12:21

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 11:42

Is it Russia? Allegedly Trump was behind the scenes in Morocco.
Is it Trump? Is it Netanyahu? Is it Ursula the witch or the 1% mystical billionaire club? Or EU leaders.
The destabilisation of Europe is here. If Putin wanted to take over Europe he wouldn’t fill it up with mass immigration first. A lot of Russian people are racist. If the plan was to conquer Europe they wouldn’t fill it with fighting age, unskilled brown men. It doesn’t make sense.
Slovakia and Poland are being penalised for not accepting this.
Classrooms are overloaded, students aren’t learning with the overcapacity.

All of the men running these countries are trying to destabilise the world for power. Israel and US are working together so will do whatever benefits them, Russia and China likewise. They all want to distract from personal failures and make their countries look stable in comparison.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · Today 11:53

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 11:45

I felt really sad watching the fire. The destruction of a beautiful irreplaceable building built in the late 1800’s.

Clearly the work of Camille and Jean-Jacques, two school children who just wanted smaller classes. It’s the obvious thing to do: torch the historic town hall while shouting about education provision. 🙄

Nothing to do with the far-left in France organising a violent attempt at breakdown in civic society, oh no.

CypressGrove · Today 11:52

SmallDFartyCarNRG · Today 09:26

Far right/Far left are just the division lines Russia has been busy creating - these are just angry, poor, disenchanted people who have been told their "side" needs to step up - it is all Russia and people who feel pushed to it by social media misinformation for BOTH sides manipulated by Russia.

And now Greta Thunberg has been inserted into it.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 11:45

PammyPrang · Today 11:12

What kind of people cheer the burning of the Limoges building? Clearly those with no investment or affection for the country.

Same old same old with looting of smartphones and trainers.

I felt really sad watching the fire. The destruction of a beautiful irreplaceable building built in the late 1800’s.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 11:42

SmallDFartyCarNRG · Today 10:04

People are losing sight of the fact that neither side are "winning" in this, just Russia laughing it's head off...

Is it Russia? Allegedly Trump was behind the scenes in Morocco.
Is it Trump? Is it Netanyahu? Is it Ursula the witch or the 1% mystical billionaire club? Or EU leaders.
The destabilisation of Europe is here. If Putin wanted to take over Europe he wouldn’t fill it up with mass immigration first. A lot of Russian people are racist. If the plan was to conquer Europe they wouldn’t fill it with fighting age, unskilled brown men. It doesn’t make sense.
Slovakia and Poland are being penalised for not accepting this.
Classrooms are overloaded, students aren’t learning with the overcapacity.

ProudCat · Today 11:24

Electra10E · Today 08:02

He was 17.

So, the poster referred to exactly that young person and asked 3 questions about parental responsibility. I answered one. You then responded also about parental responsibility and demanded I answer the other two questions. You now appear to be saying it has nothing do to with parental responsibility because the young person is 17.

Not interested in trying to discuss something with someone whose only aim is to win and who will bend everything that's said to further that aim.

Have a nice day.

Electra10E · Today 11:19

warninglivewithoutwarning · Today 11:05

They’re looting Louis Vuitton which is quite funny to me

SOP isn’t it?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:18

PammyPrang · Today 11:12

What kind of people cheer the burning of the Limoges building? Clearly those with no investment or affection for the country.

Same old same old with looting of smartphones and trainers.

Anyone applauding this has no morals; they are egging on crime. Like any protests, the genuinely concerned get left behind. All very well somebody saying the far right are hijacking this. What about it being the hard left that have created the conditions in the first place.

EasternStandard · Today 11:14

PammyPrang · Today 11:12

What kind of people cheer the burning of the Limoges building? Clearly those with no investment or affection for the country.

Same old same old with looting of smartphones and trainers.

And upmarket bags and other items in this case.

PammyPrang · Today 11:12

What kind of people cheer the burning of the Limoges building? Clearly those with no investment or affection for the country.

Same old same old with looting of smartphones and trainers.

HeyThereDelila · Today 11:12

YANBU. It’s not protests, it’s riots and a hell of a lot of it is being driven by people who aren’t French. What a gift to Le Pen.

EasternStandard · Today 11:09

Thelitterpibgs · Today 11:03

Yeah it’s quite chilling. Thanks to @Utahthecat and @AlicePottery and others for their informative posts.
i have been looking into it a bit more since.

It’s interesting the push on not associating this with the left. Of course there’s peaceful students, I listened to an articulate recent French student earlier on the radio. He made a good case for investment which is lacking.

But people must be missing imagery and videos of looting and violence to think those two posts sum up the situation.

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