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MIL has forbidden DS to call for his friend when we visit

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Hellotodays · Yesterday 19:33

The in laws (who live close by and we see regularly) have told DH that our 6 year old should not go to call for his school friend (who lives next door to the in laws) when we go to their house this Sunday. His friend is a girl the same age and her sister plays with them too who is 8. Since they started getting on very well at school they have occasionally called on each other when we have been at the in laws. It's only happened twice in about three months as they are not often home when we are there. The parents are really nice and tell me he should come over whenever we are there. Last time they even let him join them for dinner. My in laws are not so welcoming and though the kids go back and forwards between the two houses the in laws seem a bit annoyed when they are at the in laws house, and this time ahead of our visit they told my DH that he shouldn't go there and we should just have time as a family. The problem is that all the other kids at the family gathering, including our youngest are a lot younger and the in laws don't really play with him, it basically means he gets bored of playing alone of me or DH have to keep him busy. I'm quite annoyed that they have said this to DH. I'm probably not going to counter it, but if it gets to a point tomorrow where he is bored and everyone else is just doing their own thing then I will tell him yes if he asks to go and play. But I'm just wondering how others see it? Thanks!

OP posts:
Lalalalalal101010292 · Today 08:24

You must be local if they all go to same school. Can't you organise playdates with the friend without needing to use MIL house?

Somethinggg · Today 08:23

JemimaTiggywinkles · Yesterday 21:24

Firstly, boredom isn’t the end of the world. And what a ridiculous idea that a child can’t be entertained by himself, with other children or alone. Of course he can. Playing with his friends might be more fun but sometimes we forgo a more fun activity because of a prior engagement. He’s not old enough to understand why it is awful manners to go to visit someone and then ditch them for something more fun, but his parents are supposed to teach him.

We all have friends, family or acquaintances who are a bit dull. That doesn’t make it okay to be horrible to them. The in laws are clearly not okay with being ditched in favour of a friend, and imo its the right thing to say no to DS.

It's ridiculous that you think this amounts to saying a child can't be entertained in those circumstances, as an absolute. This particular child isnt. These are the facts as you've been told them.

OP I'd make it clear that DS will not be taken for hours to be bored and nor will you undertake the work of entertaining him for the whole time so the in laws can have their way whilst doing nothing to facilitate.

MatronPomfrey · Today 08:20

I’d reduce the frequency and/or length of visit. What a long and boring day for a child. I’d continue letting him visit his friend but advise him not to come into grandparents garden with her. Then arrange for his friend to visit him at home some times.

Goinggreymammy · Today 08:19

It is very rude if he brings neighbours kids into his grandparents house, especially when he isn't the only visitor. Maybe if they were minding him for a day or something but not while visiting with family, and especially not if other cousins etc are there.
So what if his cousins are younger. You can bring a colouring book or lego or magmatiles or something for him, like you would visiting anywhere that a child would be bored. It sounds very entitled that you think his grandparents should entertain him while the whole family visits. Complaining that you gave to mind your own child while visiting is unreasonable.
And thr in and out of houses must be annoying to grandparents...... if they have specifically said not to call there and you tell him he can then you are being deliberately rude.

SillyBoyChuckie · Today 08:08

I would cut down on visits and set up play dates for your 6 year old instead.

Once a month visiting grandparents who from their demands sound pretty controlling and who don’t focus on their grandchildren as actual little people but rather just there to serve their needs is more than enough.

Hellotodays · Today 08:06

Thanks for all the replies. It is good to see the different viewpoints. I can see why some might see it as rude if he were only playing with his friend and not spending any time with the grandparents, which isn't the case. If the grandparents or younger kids are willing then he will happily play with them, but towards the end of the day if he's getting bored and hears his friend in the garden then he wants to go there. Now the mil has basically said she doesn't want him going there at all or the girl playing in mils garden. Personally I've always thought the more the merrier and remember my grandparents welcoming my friends from their street. It's also not a random kid, it's their neighbour and grandsons friend. I guess that's why I'm finding the idea a bit difficult, I want to teach my kids everyone is welcome kind of thing, but of course it's their garden, so in the end I have to respect that and explain to my kid why his friend isn't welcome, for example tell him it's a day for family and not friends, I just personally don't really like that kind of exclusionary rule, but again, their garden so. If necessary perhaps we just won't stay as long, or let my son go over just to the neighbours garden at the very end, again specifying that they aren't allowed in the grandparents garden, but they can come to our house to play at a time when we arrange. Although to be honest even as I am writing that the friend is not allowed to play in their garden it feels ridiculous.

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Megifer · Today 08:00

Iiwm she'd be told, politely, no.

But I would say to DS no bringing your friend round or in/out between the houses and not to be there all day.

Neuronimo · Today 07:54

I am from an older generation, but I do think that this is quite rude. Your inlaws want to spend time with their grandchildren and I know my parents wouldn't have wanted other people's children in their home.

justbecauseyoucandoesntmeanyoushouldx · Today 07:54

Hellotodays · Today 07:26

We play with our kids plenty, don't assume that you play with your kids more than we do with ours. And of course we take toys for all the kids there. But then what is the reason why he shouldn't go and play with his friend if you're saying it's my job to make sure he is entertained at the grandparents after they have finished interacting with him or prefer to interact with the babies and toddlers?

Edited

Yes it is your - or your DH's - job to entertain him - because it's rude! Just arrange seperate play dates. Or agree a pattern (so once every couple of months or something) - your MIL wants to spend time with her family together.

InveterateWineDrinker · Today 07:46

The PILs sound like self-absorbed mean-spirited people. This isn't some random kid - it's their next door neighbour who happens to be their grandson's friend. Unless there's some massive backstory, why would anyone NOT cultivate that relationship, never mind good relationships with neighbours when there is an actual shared interest? There is absolutely no warmth or humanity in the PILs' attitude, and they will ultimately find it self-defeating.

My godson's grandparents hated their DIL and made a point of being frosty to her, while their grandson was very much subjected to a 'be seen and not heard' attitude. I once went for lunch with them all at their place and it was torture. The DIL is now dead and the grandson, nearly 21, hasn't spoken to them in years.

There are some obvious, logical ways of setting some ground rules in a compromise.

Hellotodays · Today 07:26

justbecauseyoucandoesntmeanyoushouldx · Today 06:46

Sorry OP, but you lost me at your last sentence. We have a 5yo and a 1yo and both work full time. We're both exhausted and we still play with our own kids. That's parenting.

My kids are the only grandkids in both sides and seem to manage fine without younger ones to play with. If your inlaws don't have toys - take some! And organise seperate play dates with his bestie. It's really not that hard.

We play with our kids plenty, don't assume that you play with your kids more than we do with ours. And of course we take toys for all the kids there. But then what is the reason why he shouldn't go and play with his friend if you're saying it's my job to make sure he is entertained at the grandparents after they have finished interacting with him or prefer to interact with the babies and toddlers?

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Bearbookagainandagain · Today 07:09

(however, I also decide when and how long with stay with family. If it's too long a day for them, leave earlier or arrive later. Or go less often.)

AmnesiacDream · Today 07:06

OP I can kind of see why the in-laws might find it a bit rude, but I can also see your point that they don't engage with him and it's boring for him. I think it would be pretty rude to accept their hospitality and then do something they've explicitly asked you not to. But I also wouldn't want to make DS sit there bored, because it will ruin his appreciation of these family visits.

Is there any way you can explain the situation to the neighbours and then, when the afternoon is dragging on and DS is bored and wants to go next door, you make your excuses and leave, then call on the neighbours and take the kids to the park (or maybe they will invite you in) and DS can play with the friend for a few hours and you and DH can watch while you chat. (If there's somewhere to grab a coffee nearby, all the better). Alternatively, just go home when DS starts getting bored. It's really not nice to make him stay somewhere where there are loads of people but no one's interacting with him. It's not really like entertaining himself at home.

Bearbookagainandagain · Today 07:05

If I go visit family then my kids don't go play with the neighbours. It's just rude, unless suggested by the hosts.
Particularly if their cousins are there! The age gap can't be that big if your son is only 6, surely you can see the value in him interacting with younger family members?

I can also see why you in laws wouldn't want to see kids coming in and out of their house, including kids they've never invited in the first place. I'm surprised you don't.

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · Today 07:03

Melonmango70 · Today 06:53

When we were kids, one of the highlights of seeing our grandparents was being allowed to call for and play with the little girl (more or less our age) who lived next door. It was a real treat to have a new friend. We loved it and it kept our grandparents connected with their neighbours, which is always useful. Don't understand the mentality of thinking this is bad thing!

I agree.

ithinkthereforeyouarewrong · Today 06:57

That’s a long day my children would get bored unless there were activities for them to do. I’d try to hold it off by entertaining him but in the last couple hours of the visit I’d let him. Your ils can dictate who comes in their garden though.
My in-laws used to get bothered if dc were on their phones/watching tv but we were there 2/3 nights it’s impossible/uncomfortable to stay in visitor mode for several days

Melonmango70 · Today 06:53

When we were kids, one of the highlights of seeing our grandparents was being allowed to call for and play with the little girl (more or less our age) who lived next door. It was a real treat to have a new friend. We loved it and it kept our grandparents connected with their neighbours, which is always useful. Don't understand the mentality of thinking this is bad thing!

Granville82 · Today 06:50

If it keeps them off screens and physically playing with each other that's very precious. Could you have a conversation with in laws to understand what exactly the issue is, maybe there is a win win.

realitychick67 · Today 06:50

PollyBell · Today 02:22

Why on earth would they want some random kid at their house?

Because it's something their grandchild enjoys, maybe? 🤔

Granville82 · Today 06:49

If it keeps them off screens and physically playing with each other that's very precious. Could you have a conversation with in laws to understand what exactly the issue is, maybe there is a win win.

sweetpotatopie2 · Today 06:49

I guess it's your in-laws right to not have the neighbor's kids in their yard, if that's what their complaint is about. But other than that, I think that's the parents' decision, not the grandparents. I guess I'd say more information is needed here.

justbecauseyoucandoesntmeanyoushouldx · Today 06:46

Hellotodays · Today 06:15

Thanks for all the opinions, it's useful to see it from different sides. For context we are there one day every other weekend and the visits are the whole day - about 10.30-5pm or later. As I said he has only been across to this friend twice, starting about three months ago. It only occurs to him to want to see the friend if he hears them playing in their garden. Also those two times when the girl did come to the in laws they did stay in the garden. And both times it was at the end of the day well after having had lunch. He also does play with the little kids, but obviously there is a limit to that and in laws focus is definitely more on the little ones. I also think it is unfair whoever asked "Can I not entertain my own kid?", I'm simply tired from the week, also have a one year old.

Edited

Sorry OP, but you lost me at your last sentence. We have a 5yo and a 1yo and both work full time. We're both exhausted and we still play with our own kids. That's parenting.

My kids are the only grandkids in both sides and seem to manage fine without younger ones to play with. If your inlaws don't have toys - take some! And organise seperate play dates with his bestie. It's really not that hard.

Overthebow · Today 06:45

I think they aren’t being unreasonable to not want his friend in their house, that needs to stop. I don’t see the harm in your DS playing next door though as long as it’s not very time and just for a small amount of time like an hour. If it’s longer and more often that’s more of an issue. I don’t get the bit about you saying you and DH have to entertain him though, surely yes you do as he’s your DC. It’s your responsibility to keep him entertained and play with him.

mummabubs · Today 06:39

Sorry, just saw the bit about them coming into your in-laws' garden. I have to say I can understand a bit more of why your ILs don't want this becoming a regular thing, were they asked if the kids could come over? (But even then there is a pressure for them to say yes). I think best thing is for any play dates to not impose on your ILs at all. I love having kids over for playdates and also remember how sad I was when I watched one of my flower borders of seedlings get absolutely trashed through innocent play/running around. They shouldn't have to be responsible for anyone else's kids in my humble opinion.

mummabubs · Today 06:35

Sorry OP I might have missed this - where you say the kids are between the two houses do your DS' friends ever pop over to your in-laws' to play, or are the playdates always at the friends' house? The only way in which I could see this being unreasonable is if your in-laws are being forced to host play dates at their house. Assuming they aren't then absolutely encourage DS to do to their house if he is feeling ignored.

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