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Parking and the elderly

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Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · Yesterday 19:11

I recently attempted to renew a blue badge for an elderly (93 year old) relative. Despite him needing to use a walking frame or sticks, having had several falls, having stiff and painful joints, and a bit of confusion, he has been refused a blue badge.

I have lived in an area that had a ‘brown badge’ scheme, which were given to anyone over a certain age - I think it was 70 or 75. Now, not everyone needs to secure a space near to store entrances - I’m late 70’s myself and regularly walk 8-10k a day, but many people do need this, as they can’t confidently walk too far.

But aside from blue badge spaces, the only other close ones are parent and baby spaces. Why? I don’t understand why the latter can’t be further away, and wide enough to access car seats.

If my 93 year old relative is no longer entitled to a blue badge, I feel the only option is to park in a so called baby space, so that I can encourage his ongoing independence in choosing his food shopping. He just wouldn’t go if I couldn’t assist.

AIBU - Elderly people don’t need consideration in supermarket car parks

AINBU - If blue badges are being heavily restricted now, spaces in car parks should be set aside for the elderly, and parent/baby spaces moved further away.

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emuloc · Today 19:49

SB2527 · Today 19:28

My 60 year old sister has a learning disability and reduced mobility. Her blue badge wasn't renewed. Numerous appeals but due to a change in the system her individual case doesn't tick enough "boxes" so it gets rejected every time. With her lifelong disability, she's obviously not disabled enough!
I have to park far away so we can open the door wide enough for her to get in and out. We then hobble along slowly to get to our destination.

I would be asking the advice of your local MP. Your sister has a lifelong disability, and sounds like she struggles to walk any distance.

ThisZanyCoralShark · Today 19:44

Just go in sometime to the supermarket if it’s a supermarket and ask them what you should do. Without him if you can. I was able to give them my reg and they added me to a list that meant I could use the P&C spaces when I didn’t have a BB yet.

@PetuniaT I have a BB and a Motability car. I abuse neither. How dare you.

Holeymoley28 · Today 19:34

They have really clamped down on blue badges this year because they have given out so many in my city.

If he is just a passenger can he not be dropped off by the store doors and then you park up? Leave him at and Collect him at the pick up bay once done.

Theroadt · Today 19:34

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Spiteful comment - clearly you don’t have to look after an elderly relative 🙄

Theroadt · Today 19:33

Cadeaukatze · Today 19:24

That's a nasty comment - you know nothing about the OP.

Agreed - spiteful. But then grey prejudice is on the rise.

Theroadt · Today 19:32

ToddlersAreBananas · Yesterday 19:29

Op - please tell us that you're not supporting a 93yo, with slow reactions and confusion, to drive?!

Oh don’t be so ridiculous - clearly he is the passenger.

SB2527 · Today 19:28

LadyGardenersQuestionTime · Yesterday 19:44

It’s very unusual for someone’s blue badge to be taken away and he certainly sounds as though he qualifies for one. Did something significant change? Have you considered appealing?

My 60 year old sister has a learning disability and reduced mobility. Her blue badge wasn't renewed. Numerous appeals but due to a change in the system her individual case doesn't tick enough "boxes" so it gets rejected every time. With her lifelong disability, she's obviously not disabled enough!
I have to park far away so we can open the door wide enough for her to get in and out. We then hobble along slowly to get to our destination.

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That's a nasty comment - you know nothing about the OP.

emuloc · Today 19:18

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saraclara · Today 18:59

You can let him out at the entrance, park anywhere and pick him up again at the entrance or collection point if he's not driving.

That wouldn't have worked for my MIL at all. Her Alzheimer's would have meant that she couldn't have been left alone, and she needed significant help to get it of the car, as her brain was not capable of telling her what to do with her legs in order to get in and out. We couldn't 'drop her' anywhere.

Jacqueline2456 · Today 18:54

As a parent with two children under 1 1/2 the parent and child spaces are full of blue badge holder anyhow!
I wish the parent and child spaces were at the furthest end of the car park with a nice path. People wouldn’t probably abuse them then and I wouldn’t have to squeeze to get car seats in and out.

JJWT · Today 18:18

humptydumptyfelloff · Yesterday 19:15

Ok il bite.

wtf are you doing encouraging a 93 year old with body issues and disabilities to still
drive

The blue badge is not connected to the disabled person driving! Its for use in any car giving them a lift too. Does a wheelchair bound six year old with a blue badge drive??! OP mentions taking him shopping.

Yetone · Today 18:11

Ponderingwindow · Today 17:57

Our supermarket has parent spaces and separate senior spaces. It gets a bit silly. All are courtesy spaces that are not enforceable. People seem to forget that the space creation is a marketing strategy.

I don’t use the spaces. I prefer to park at the back and walk in unless the weather is truly awful.

forgot my point, to ahead and park there. He needs a close spot and the store wants his business.

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But actually the store doesn’t want most old people’s business. Especially if they spend a long time in the store and don’t spend very much. Really, I used to know a manger of a large supermarket. Families are their best and most favoured customers. Customers with young children will be good customers for a long time.

Sirzy · Today 18:01

DoubleBusy2026 · Today 17:58

This is not the case in every area, some areas they don’t take PIP into account at all. It varies quite a lot

I thought legally things like planning a journey 10 points led to a badge? Ds gets 12 so is somehow too disabled?

DoubleBusy2026 · Today 17:58

Sirzy · Today 16:54

Those who get enough points in the right area of PIP get one automatically. Otherwise you apply to the council and provide evidence and they decide if they are going to be accepted or not, some may be called for an assessment but not everyone.

interestingly DS has just moved to PIP and now gets too MANY points to automatically qualify for blue badge 🤦‍♀️

This is not the case in every area, some areas they don’t take PIP into account at all. It varies quite a lot

Ponderingwindow · Today 17:57

Our supermarket has parent spaces and separate senior spaces. It gets a bit silly. All are courtesy spaces that are not enforceable. People seem to forget that the space creation is a marketing strategy.

I don’t use the spaces. I prefer to park at the back and walk in unless the weather is truly awful.

forgot my point, to ahead and park there. He needs a close spot and the store wants his business.

DoubleBusy2026 · Today 17:56

JenniferBooth · Today 17:49

DH applied for his blue badge to be renewed and was told he had to go to an assessment in another town. He couldnt travel that far and the council told him there was no alternative so tough shit basically. So he just went without i This was about 13/14 years ago. He gave up driving at the beginning of 2020 He has COPD and ischemic heart disease as well as arthritis.

I never had to go for any assessment, I just had to provide proof of my PIP

DoubleBusy2026 · Today 17:55

LadyGardenersQuestionTime · Yesterday 19:44

It’s very unusual for someone’s blue badge to be taken away and he certainly sounds as though he qualifies for one. Did something significant change? Have you considered appealing?

Blue badges have to be renewed every 3/4 years and it’s a whole new application

JenniferBooth · Today 17:49

Goldenboysmum · Today 16:18

Im more shocked that council staff are making decisions on whether someone qualifies for a BB or not, at least thats how im reading the posts.

Ive Just been awarded a BB and although I applied to the council I had to go for a clinical assessment at a hospital, maybe its different in Scotland?

DH applied for his blue badge to be renewed and was told he had to go to an assessment in another town. He couldnt travel that far and the council told him there was no alternative so tough shit basically. So he just went without i This was about 13/14 years ago. He gave up driving at the beginning of 2020 He has COPD and ischemic heart disease as well as arthritis.

Yetone · Today 17:37

LlynTegid · Today 16:57

When my dad was alive and had a blue badge as a passenger, I used the parent and child space on occasions, placing the blue badge so visible.

Supermarkets have parent and child spaces as a planning sop, no intention of enforcing them, and if the OPs dad uses a walking stick I doubt anyone will mind.

Some supermarkets do enforce P and C spaces, especially if the parking is managed by a company. Fines are a source of revenue.

Katypp · Today 17:18

Sirzy · Today 08:17

I think the fact some people think fit and health adults need a closer parking space over a frail elderly person simply because they have a child with them says a lot about what is going wrong in society. Are people really that self centred?

Yes they are. And seemingly unable to imagine any problems umless tbey are the problems faced by the demogrsphic they are part of.
Hence they think it entirely reasonable of offload am old person who has difficulty walking to stand in the cold while their driver parks up so that their precious children are not left alone in the car for less than a minute or get wet.
It will be different story when they are the old person themselves or if they - unlike a lot of MN posters seemingly - feel a sense of duty towards their parents and they are faced with the rigmarole of dumping and parking.

JenniferBooth · Today 17:05

Createausername1970 · Yesterday 19:26

You are not being unreasonable, your relative sounds like he could benefit from a wider space to allow you to open the door wide to allow him to get in and out.

What I am about to say will no doubt get me flamed. My understanding of disabled spaces in supermarket car parks is that they are not just for blue badge holders - unless it specifically says so - as it's private land.

A lot of supermarkets use blue branding and signage, but unless it clearly says blue badge holders only then you don't need one to park there. I have used them in the past when my husband broke his knee and was in a leg brace /on crutches for a month or so. No-one said anything, and from my point of view it might only have been a temporary condition, but the wider spaces were needed at that time. Once he was mobile again we parked in the wider car park

I can't imagine anyone would bat an eyelid about an obviously frail older person, using walking aids making use of the spaces. Your relative sounds to me like the person they were designed to assist.

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Wrong 70 year old friend of mine who is at risk of falls due to NHS denying him a knee replacement (IMO a seven year wait is not a wait , it is denial) got fined because he parked in a supermarket parking space without a blue badge because he thought the same as you.

Goldenboysmum · Today 16:59

Sirzy · Today 16:54

Those who get enough points in the right area of PIP get one automatically. Otherwise you apply to the council and provide evidence and they decide if they are going to be accepted or not, some may be called for an assessment but not everyone.

interestingly DS has just moved to PIP and now gets too MANY points to automatically qualify for blue badge 🤦‍♀️

Thank you for explaining.

Scandelabra · Today 16:58

OneNavyPoster · Yesterday 19:39

You can let him out at the entrance, park anywhere and pick him up again at the entrance or collection point if he's not driving. Parents with children can't do this safely with small kids or babies! You are being incredibly selfish.

There is so much abuse of blue badge spaces. You get a booklet with a blue badge that very clearly says not to park on the hashed lines between spaces as they're there for access and doing this is an abuse that can mean your blue badge can be cancelled.

Old people in small cars are the worst for parking way over the hashed lines. I use a wheelchair; there is no squeezing through a smaller gap. I have had to give up and go home from shops when there's been nowhere safe and accessible to park.

You are being incredibly selfish.

Give over. This is somebody trying to help her elderly disabled neighbour to go shopping. She didn’t say she would park in a disabled space, she’s talking about parent and child spaces. She is clearly not selfish in anyway whatsoever.