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to say no to sisters request for no alcohol over Xmas?

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ChristmasDrinking · Yesterday 03:29

My sister has been in a relationship with a man since May. He used to have alcohol issues but has apparently been sober for 3 years. He seems nice and they seem happy.

We take it in turn to host Christmas and this year is our year. Everyone usually comes on Christmas Eve and goes home on Boxing Day. We have a party on Christmas Eve which includes alcohol, Christmas Day which includes drinks with dinner and a few drinks through the afternoon/evening and then a chilled out Boxing Day, which is usually a long walk with our dogs and a late lunch before everyone leaves.

My sister has requested that there be no alcohol this year due to her partner. I’m not particularly bothered as I don’t drink much, but my husband, adult children, my brother and his wife and my adult nieces would like to be able to have a drink.

I have suggested that my sister and her partner just come for Christmas dinner and we’ll have it with no alcohol, but she wants to be here for as long as everyone else. She is saying her partner is family and we should all be willing to have no alcohol for him.

AIBU to say no to her and that they can either just come for an alcohol free dinner, or accept that there will be some alcohol around due to it being our house, Christmas and other people wanting it.

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Skodacool · Today 06:54

There are plenty of non alcoholic drinks available and zero alcohol drinks available. Your sister should not be making such a demand.

Secretseverywhere · Today 03:41

CrazyMidget · Today 02:15

Beef? For Christmas dinner? 😢 Dinner on the 25th should always, always be 🦃

I don’t like turkey and it’s £££. I tend to buy massive tomahawk steaks which are also expensive but are delicious so feel worth it.

fuchsteufelswild · Today 02:42

Your sister is being unreasonable, to insist after you offered a compromise. If you did humour her I'd expect the mood to be rather tense and not very enjoyable, which would be the last thing I'd want as a gf/bf of 5 months.

It's a little unusual that others' drinking on a family occasion should still be a problem after 3 years sober though.

CrazyMidget · Today 02:15

OffTheMap · Yesterday 09:52

No thank you.

My brother spends upwards of £160 on a perfect locally reared beef rib and cooks it to succulent perfection with all the sides

And then chooses a gorgeous red wine to go with it. Which is really enjoyable.

The wine isn’t there because we can’t ‘have fun’ without it, no one gets drunk, but I’m not giving up the perfect accompaniment that sets off the beef due to sanctimonious people who think that drinking wine is a toxic relationship with alcohol and I’m not eating one of the best dinners of the year with Schloer or horrible a/f wine.

Why don’t you try enjoying your Christmas Dinner without roasties? You know they are bad for you…

Beef? For Christmas dinner? 😢 Dinner on the 25th should always, always be 🦃

Shloopie · Today 02:08

if you truly care about your sister's boyfriend of 5 whole months you'll have a 'Shloer only!' policy. Anything else is cruel.

Reallyneedsaholiday · Today 00:56

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · Yesterday 18:13

If the OP was getting married soon would it be acceptable for her sister to ask her to have a alcohol free wedding? Or hosting a birthday party? Or even a summer bbq?

Assuming this relationship lasts for the next decade or is nobody in the family never ever going to be allowed to have a drink in that time?

I thought my comment was pretty clear tbh. Its what we do when we CARE about someone else. If alcohol is more important to you than your relationships, then crack on.

theodoretrout · Today 00:56

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Dinosaurhearmeroar · Today 00:33

How ridiculous. It’s Christmas - eat, drink and be merry. He has to slot in to YOUR lifestyle and if he finds the festive vibes too tricky then he can leave/ not go. He is a grown man.

I don’t mean to sound unsympathetic - I have a good friend who is an alcoholic and now sober. His wife still drinks around him and their wedding was certainly not booze- free.

he will be aware that Christmas is very tempting so hopefully will be doing more mindfulness etc to help him manage.

Letsgonowthen · Yesterday 23:47

bostonchamps · Yesterday 22:46

Tell me you don’t understand alcoholism without telling me…

ps nobody is an ‘ex-alcoholic’. You can be in recovery, but you’re still an alcoholic.

What's your point? If I "understood" alcoholism would I be more likely to say everyone should drink around them without qualms?

If they are always recovering and never cured surely that is even more reason to not drink around them.

Would not drinking around them harm them? No. Would drinking around them harm them? Possibly, if they are tempted surely.

PollyBell · Yesterday 23:41

MonsterRottenLoony · Yesterday 23:22

I think it’s sad if the value of the holiday is more linked to alcohol than who’s there. You’re welcome to think differently.

Which post said this?

CruCru · Yesterday 23:37

If I had been seeing someone since May and found out that they’d told their family that I am family, I’d run a mile. It’s too intense too soon.

MissSookieStackhouse · Yesterday 23:30

Your sister doesn’t get to dictate that every one has a ‘dry’ Christmas just to accommodate some bloke she started seeing in May. As for her saying he’s ‘‘family” that’s bonkers after such a short time. If she doesn’t like it, she and the boyfriend can make their own arrangements. Why spoil the entire family Christmas for some Johnny come lately they barely even know!

Notonthestairs · Yesterday 23:27

MonsterRottenLoony · Yesterday 23:22

I think it’s sad if the value of the holiday is more linked to alcohol than who’s there. You’re welcome to think differently.

You make it sound like the Op hasn’t offered a dry Christmas lunch - she’s extended a workable compromise and been rejected. Save your criticisms for her sister.

Shloopie · Yesterday 23:25

Not a hope I'd entertain the sister's request.

MonsterRottenLoony · Yesterday 23:22

SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · Yesterday 21:35

Well it is actually. More important than having one extra partner involved for several days, rather than the alcohol free meal he was invited to. If 9/10 people want to enjoy alcohol over the Christmas period then their wishes trump the 1/10. Don't forget he was invited for dinner and offered for it to be dry, but the sister says that's not enough for some reason.

I think it’s sad if the value of the holiday is more linked to alcohol than who’s there. You’re welcome to think differently.

WhereYouLeftIt · Yesterday 23:19

"She is saying her partner is family and we should all be willing to have no alcohol for him."
Family? She's only been dating him since MAY - a whole five months!

Is your sister a People Pleaser? Or the type who contorts herself to please a man? Because honestly, I find it weird of her to be calling him 'family' after such a short relationship, and deeply weird that she expects her actual family to go along with her weird take.

Casperroonie · Yesterday 23:16

ChristmasDrinking · Yesterday 03:29

My sister has been in a relationship with a man since May. He used to have alcohol issues but has apparently been sober for 3 years. He seems nice and they seem happy.

We take it in turn to host Christmas and this year is our year. Everyone usually comes on Christmas Eve and goes home on Boxing Day. We have a party on Christmas Eve which includes alcohol, Christmas Day which includes drinks with dinner and a few drinks through the afternoon/evening and then a chilled out Boxing Day, which is usually a long walk with our dogs and a late lunch before everyone leaves.

My sister has requested that there be no alcohol this year due to her partner. I’m not particularly bothered as I don’t drink much, but my husband, adult children, my brother and his wife and my adult nieces would like to be able to have a drink.

I have suggested that my sister and her partner just come for Christmas dinner and we’ll have it with no alcohol, but she wants to be here for as long as everyone else. She is saying her partner is family and we should all be willing to have no alcohol for him.

AIBU to say no to her and that they can either just come for an alcohol free dinner, or accept that there will be some alcohol around due to it being our house, Christmas and other people wanting it.

Nope. I don't drink much at all but I wouldn't expect someone to impose themselves on a family celebration. It's not as if you're all planning to get rat ar%@%d. If he can't cope he should accept the Christmas lunch and then go to let everyone get on.

Anonanonay · Yesterday 23:15

It's as ridiculous as me going to Xmas lunch and insisting everyone eats vegetarian food because I don't eat meat. If the boyfriend's abstinence is so fragile, he needs to stay away.

Crispynoodle · Yesterday 22:57

Buy some no alcohol wines and bears problem solved

SweetnsourNZ · Yesterday 22:57

I think you have offered a very generous alternative. If sister wants to be there for the whole time she could, and he could just join your family for dinner. Does he not have family of his own? Where does he usually spend Christmas?
Sounds like it is sister making an issue anyway.

Sweethoneydew · Yesterday 22:55

ChristmasDrinking · Yesterday 03:29

My sister has been in a relationship with a man since May. He used to have alcohol issues but has apparently been sober for 3 years. He seems nice and they seem happy.

We take it in turn to host Christmas and this year is our year. Everyone usually comes on Christmas Eve and goes home on Boxing Day. We have a party on Christmas Eve which includes alcohol, Christmas Day which includes drinks with dinner and a few drinks through the afternoon/evening and then a chilled out Boxing Day, which is usually a long walk with our dogs and a late lunch before everyone leaves.

My sister has requested that there be no alcohol this year due to her partner. I’m not particularly bothered as I don’t drink much, but my husband, adult children, my brother and his wife and my adult nieces would like to be able to have a drink.

I have suggested that my sister and her partner just come for Christmas dinner and we’ll have it with no alcohol, but she wants to be here for as long as everyone else. She is saying her partner is family and we should all be willing to have no alcohol for him.

AIBU to say no to her and that they can either just come for an alcohol free dinner, or accept that there will be some alcohol around due to it being our house, Christmas and other people wanting it.

I voted wrong, meant to vote you’re NOT being unreasonable but doesn’t seem like I can change it. Anyway, if you do it for Christmas she will ask for every occasion. I don’t even think offering an alcohol free dinner is fair on anyone. Maybe they should join on Boxing Day for a walk, breakfast and a few games? If he is really struggling hopefully he is getting help.

bostonchamps · Yesterday 22:46

Letsgonowthen · Yesterday 13:46

I really disagree with most people. If an ex-alcoholic was coming to stay I'd absolutely remove alcohol from the house. I wouldn't want to be responsible for putting them in temptation's way.

And especially if they were a romantic partner to one of my family I'd be making a big effort to make them welcome and included.

Tell me you don’t understand alcoholism without telling me…

ps nobody is an ‘ex-alcoholic’. You can be in recovery, but you’re still an alcoholic.

Secretseverywhere · Yesterday 22:17

I wouldn’t entertain this, I don’t drink much the rest of the year but quite like cracking open the champagne for Christmas breakfast having necked Santas port the night before.

Tbh even if you did she’d probably dump him and it’d be a thing where you all remember “that dry Christmas” for many years to come. We hosted a vegan Christmas for someone under similar circumstances ( who as it turned out was vegetarian but didn't eat eggs so used to say vegan, complete arse basically) 17 years ago snd still mutter about annually. Normally while slathering butter on the veg!

LilyBunch25 · Yesterday 22:15

Completely unreasonable for her to expect this- if her partner after 3 years sober is unable to attend any event where alcohol may be present that is not everyone else's responsibility. Both my parents gave up alcohol due to dependency and never expected this from others.

outerspacepotato · Yesterday 22:11

When she hosts, she can have a no alcohol Xmas if she chooses.

Expecting everyone at yours to go without because of her new bf, the answer would be no. And I don't drink alcohol.

She's already slipping into codependency trying to manage his alcoholism by trying to control what other people do at their own homes.

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