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to say no to sisters request for no alcohol over Xmas?

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ChristmasDrinking · Yesterday 03:29

My sister has been in a relationship with a man since May. He used to have alcohol issues but has apparently been sober for 3 years. He seems nice and they seem happy.

We take it in turn to host Christmas and this year is our year. Everyone usually comes on Christmas Eve and goes home on Boxing Day. We have a party on Christmas Eve which includes alcohol, Christmas Day which includes drinks with dinner and a few drinks through the afternoon/evening and then a chilled out Boxing Day, which is usually a long walk with our dogs and a late lunch before everyone leaves.

My sister has requested that there be no alcohol this year due to her partner. I’m not particularly bothered as I don’t drink much, but my husband, adult children, my brother and his wife and my adult nieces would like to be able to have a drink.

I have suggested that my sister and her partner just come for Christmas dinner and we’ll have it with no alcohol, but she wants to be here for as long as everyone else. She is saying her partner is family and we should all be willing to have no alcohol for him.

AIBU to say no to her and that they can either just come for an alcohol free dinner, or accept that there will be some alcohol around due to it being our house, Christmas and other people wanting it.

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MrsPositivity1 · Today 20:35

I bet he would be mortified if he thought she asked this.

Vivi0 · Today 19:25

Reallyneedsaholiday · Today 19:11

Of course it’s about alcohol being more important.

Well yes then, me and my family having the choice to drink alcohol in our own home on Christmas Day would be more important to me than my sister’s new boyfriend of 3 months.

Imagine telling your adult children and their partners that they couldn’t enjoy a glass or 10 on Christmas Day because of their aunt’s new boyfriend of 3 months 😂

He could go and ruin someone else’s Christmas Day.

AllJoyAndNoFun · Today 19:20

Reallyneedsaholiday · Today 19:15

Because the sister is prioritising a relationship with someone she cares about over drinking alcohol.

No she's prioritising her desire to bring her new BF to the family Christmas- he's already said he'd rather see his own family, This is about her, not him.

Reallyneedsaholiday · Today 19:15

Wildgoat · Today 12:41

But why does that only work one way for you? You don’t apply the same principle to the sister ?

Because the sister is prioritising a relationship with someone she cares about over drinking alcohol.

Tuesdayschild50 · Today 19:13

Erm no way this is totally unreasonable id be surprised if he knew she had said this to you.
There will be many times in a sober person's life where they have to put what they've learnt in action im sure he has gone through group therapies etc.
Temptations are there always .
If he is giving into temptations because other people are drinking then he will have ways of dealing with that or give into temptation thats on him.. the rest of your family are not responsible for someone else's actions .. tell your sister to get a grip .

Reallyneedsaholiday · Today 19:11

Vivi0 · Today 12:55

If alcohol is more important to you than your relationships, then crack on.

It’s so strange to see this used in the context of a non drinker being around people who do not have any issues with alcohol drinking moderately at family gatherings and celebrations, because this extreme stance would normally be reserved for situations where a person has a drinking problem and is actively causing harm to their loved ones.

Drinking alcohol is a completely normal thing for people to do. I can’t fathom why anyone would expect an entire family group to forgo consuming alcohol on Christmas Day because of one person, who isn’t even a family member.

It’s not about alcohol being more important, the issue is being dictated to about what you and your family can and cannot do, in your own home, on Christmas Day. There is nothing wrong with drinking alcohol. Why would anyone think it acceptable to try and exert this level of control over others?

Of course it’s about alcohol being more important.

ThreadGuardDog · Today 19:09

Letsgonowthen · Yesterday 23:47

What's your point? If I "understood" alcoholism would I be more likely to say everyone should drink around them without qualms?

If they are always recovering and never cured surely that is even more reason to not drink around them.

Would not drinking around them harm them? No. Would drinking around them harm them? Possibly, if they are tempted surely.

If I "understood" alcoholism would I be more likely to say everyone should drink around them without qualms?

Yes. Because his alcoholism is for him to manage, not everyone else. It’s called personal responsibility. Alcohol is everywhere and part of recovery is being comfortable with others drinking alcohol in your presence.

Personally I think Dsis is the one with the problem - she’s trying to gaslight him into attending her own family’s Christmas celebration when it’s quite clear he would rather be with his own family, who don’t drink, rather than having attention drawn to him by banning alcohol for a whole host of people over Christmas.

WimpoleHat · Today 18:21

I’m not saying people shouldn’t have a drink. I certainly will. But to think that’s more important than having family there seems like strange priorities.

The OP has adult children, whose friends are coming on Christmas Eve. Presumably they are hoping for a good rime with a few drinks - and aren’t particularly close to their friend’s aunt’s new boyfriend of a few months? What if the OP loses the company of her kids and their friends as a result of imposing a “no booze on Christmas Eve” rule?

thing47 · Today 18:07

MonsterRottenLoony · Yesterday 23:22

I think it’s sad if the value of the holiday is more linked to alcohol than who’s there. You’re welcome to think differently.

I might well agree with this if we were talking about an elderly, much loved aunt, for example.

A boyfriend of 5 months? Not so much

CandyCrushLevel14809 · Today 17:43

Alondra · Yesterday 08:30

I'm lost for words reading the majority answers on this thread. Many of you have a toxic relationship with alcohol if you can't enjoy a family celebration without it.

It doesn't matter how many months the OP's sister has been with her partner/boyfriend. She's made the request because he's a recovering alcoholic and wants to help him enjoy the family get together without addiction triggers.

If he was celiac or had an alergy to certain foods, the OP would adjust the menu. But because it's alcohol, the sister is being unreasonable.

Some of you really need to think about why you can't have fun without alcohol.

Most people have said that they wouldn't want to have Xmas w/o alcohol. That is very different to people saying they can't, so you are wrong to say the majority have a bad relationship with alcohol.

JHound · Today 17:33

Alondra · Yesterday 08:30

I'm lost for words reading the majority answers on this thread. Many of you have a toxic relationship with alcohol if you can't enjoy a family celebration without it.

It doesn't matter how many months the OP's sister has been with her partner/boyfriend. She's made the request because he's a recovering alcoholic and wants to help him enjoy the family get together without addiction triggers.

If he was celiac or had an alergy to certain foods, the OP would adjust the menu. But because it's alcohol, the sister is being unreasonable.

Some of you really need to think about why you can't have fun without alcohol.

If he was coeliac or had an allergy she would like likely adjust the menu FOR HIM. Not ban everybody else from eating items he is allergic too / cannot tolerate.

She is not forcing him to drink alcohol so your comparison does not hold.

CatSquirrelDuck · Today 17:29

LilyBunch25 · Today 17:13

Turkey is horrible. I haven't had it at Christmas since I was a child. I tried to cook it one year for my children, a beautiful free range expensive one with all the basting instructions carefully followed. Still hated it.

Same, can't stand it x

CatSquirrelDuck · Today 17:28

MrsClatterbuck · Today 16:51

Now that it's just me and dh at Christmas we now have fillet steak with roasted veg, salad, chips and baby boiled potatoes. So relaxing and miminal clearing up.

That sounds perfect!

LilyBunch25 · Today 17:13

CrazyMidget · Today 02:15

Beef? For Christmas dinner? 😢 Dinner on the 25th should always, always be 🦃

Turkey is horrible. I haven't had it at Christmas since I was a child. I tried to cook it one year for my children, a beautiful free range expensive one with all the basting instructions carefully followed. Still hated it.

LilyBunch25 · Today 17:11

Letsgonowthen · Today 13:16

But in the OPs scenario she's been asked. So if I was the host and agreed, which I would, I would have no resentment. I'd just be happy I could meet him and he and sister were there.

So what about everyone else? OP has already offered a dry Christmas lunch. Making it a completely dry Christmas for one person is unreasonable.

Bellyblueboy · Today 17:10

Letsgonowthen · Today 17:01

Yes I would (but tbh I don't think I know anyone who'd decline being with their family and friends because it was a dry event so it's easy for me to say).

😂 Clearly you aren’t Irish, or French.

Letsgonowthen · Today 17:01

Bellyblueboy · Today 15:06

What about other guests? I know a lot of people who would politely decline a dry Christmas. The champagne on Christmas morning, the brandy by the fire. Even my non drinking g great grandmother used to love a glass on port on Christmas Eve.

I would struggle to change so many people’s experience and enjoyment of Christmas to suit one person, particularly someone who is a practical stranger. Would you be okay with not seeing other family members on Christmas to comply with this request?

Yes I would (but tbh I don't think I know anyone who'd decline being with their family and friends because it was a dry event so it's easy for me to say).

Spirallingdownwards · Today 16:56

If he is 3 years sober he will have been in situations where alcohol is served and yet he remains 3 years sober. What a shame your sister is being so unsupportive in believing he won't be able to remain sober!

My father was an alcoholic who went sober and not once expected other people to not drink in his presence nor did he suddenly start drinking again just because alcohol was present and available. Why does your sister believe her bf would?

MrsClatterbuck · Today 16:51

CatSquirrelDuck · Today 10:05

I don't know anyone who eats turkey at Christmas ... us included. Turkey is tasteless imo. We prefer a nice prime rib for the family event.

Now that it's just me and dh at Christmas we now have fillet steak with roasted veg, salad, chips and baby boiled potatoes. So relaxing and miminal clearing up.

Therealjudgejudy · Today 16:17

Your sister is being massively unreasonable here.

Noshowlomo · Today 16:08

For a close relative, who I loved, I would do it.
For a random who someone has been with for 6 months.. nope.
I don’t drink much these days, but a few m&s cocktail cans whilst cooking and a glass of fizz at dinner is something I love.

thepariscrimefiles · Today 16:02

IDontHateRainbows · Today 09:26

I don't think this is about 'alcohol being more important than relationships', its about the sisters respect for her family and those relationships being more important than a 6 month boyfriend ( or any month, actually).

I'd be mighty pissed off and being dictated to in this way and it would take the sheen off xmas day.

I'd be mortified in the boyfriends shoes to put this on the hosts. Wonder whose idea it was?

It's OP's sister's idea. Her boyfriend has told her that he is spending Christmas with his sister and her family as they won't be drinking as they have small children.

He didn't invite OP's sister to join them so her sister is now demanding that OP invites him for an alcohol-free Christmas and OP's offer of a Christmas dinner without alcohol has been rejected by her sister as she expects all three days to be alcohol-free.

Vivi0 · Today 15:41

Bellyblueboy · Today 15:06

What about other guests? I know a lot of people who would politely decline a dry Christmas. The champagne on Christmas morning, the brandy by the fire. Even my non drinking g great grandmother used to love a glass on port on Christmas Eve.

I would struggle to change so many people’s experience and enjoyment of Christmas to suit one person, particularly someone who is a practical stranger. Would you be okay with not seeing other family members on Christmas to comply with this request?

I’m sure the OP would much rather spend Christmas Day with her adult children and their partners, over her sister and her partner.

I would imagine the OP’s children still very much view her home as theirs. I wonder how complaint they would be with having a dry Christmas imposed on them. Not very, is my guess.

Bellyblueboy · Today 15:06

Letsgonowthen · Today 13:16

But in the OPs scenario she's been asked. So if I was the host and agreed, which I would, I would have no resentment. I'd just be happy I could meet him and he and sister were there.

What about other guests? I know a lot of people who would politely decline a dry Christmas. The champagne on Christmas morning, the brandy by the fire. Even my non drinking g great grandmother used to love a glass on port on Christmas Eve.

I would struggle to change so many people’s experience and enjoyment of Christmas to suit one person, particularly someone who is a practical stranger. Would you be okay with not seeing other family members on Christmas to comply with this request?

Brokentoes85 · Today 13:19

3 Years sober? He's not in recovery if being around alcohol is this big an issue.