FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

No young brit wants a job as bus driver, cleaner or in care. Jyst saying.

This is rather simplified. The overseas worker also has to apply for a visa even when the employer is a sponsor. Not an easy process and often a lengthy one.

And what pray tell, is the answer?

What are you suggesting we do @OpenScroller in terms of your local jobs for local people project.
You seem to be all problems and no solutions.....
I hope your solutions are as good as Reform's, it is the leadership of that party and their five star ideas that really inspire 🤔🌟

Type "does mumsnet have political influence" into any search engine and you'll be inundated with data and examples.

Have a read of this.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/11/how-mumsnet-transformed-britain/

"How Mumsnet transformed Britain
"‘It taps into the wisdom of eight million women’: How Mumsnet transformed Britain
It started life as an online support forum for parents. Now, 25 years later, it’s become a hugely influential political forum"

Politicians from Tony Blair to David Cameron and Boris Johnson have all used Mumsnet as a way to reach voters.

Unfortunately too many people genuinely spout that crap and think like that! I'm honestly grateful for people of heritage because all the specialists that helped me to finally get a long winded fibromyalgia diagnosis this year were men and women of heritage, we'd be lost without them.

My DS works in tech for a startup. Of the 50 employees, only he and one other are UK born. The rest are here from all over the world on work permits.

They are all well paid. My view is UK students are so busy doing degrees in 'something they love', they end up unemployable.

Thats very true of seasonal farming work where frankly there are not enough long term jobs in the area to sustain a permanent population of "local" people. And it doesn't make sense for an unemployed person in London to travel to Somerset for 2 months to earn less than the cost of his London flat. Whilst it does make sense as a job for young people travelling (lots of British people used to do grape picking etc in France at one point) or people from lower wage countries where the amount they can earn in 2 months of working is very worth it compared to the cost of living etc back home.

There will always be a need for those workers. It's nothing to do with local people being too picky.

However like you say there is also a problem with lack of investment in training young people etc. A lot of good could be done there but it can't happen overnight. I really hope Andy Burnham properly addresses this (he did mention apprenticeships etc hopefully it's not just lip service). But it it is taken seriously you wouldn't see measurable effects for a while. So fingers crossed🤞

I was just about to type this, they are right wing and will present data to support the right wing agenda

I would really like some of the right wing frothers to tackle the root causes of why so many British nationals feel entry level and/or practical hard work is beneath them. Get them working and contributing and THEN talk to me about foreign nationals.

Foreign nationals aren’t the problem. Domestic laziness and entitlement concerns me much more.

It really is! Skilled workers are often not getting much more than minimum wage. I'm H&S by trade and it's horrendous, they want to work long hours, travel around the country and be often away from home and for about £30-£35! Many jobs now are only for 6 or 12 months.
I saw a junior HSE officer job the other day - working pattern 10 days on and 4 off, working hours 12 noon to 10pm! That's a crap way to live and forget sharing your life with anyone because you'll never see them hardly.

Not at all. He can say "Well the vast majority of people coming to work in this industry are from abroad, I know that as I do the recruiting" without breaking any rules. Its not something that he discusses on a regular basis, it was a conversation after seeing a news story a long the lines of this thread. It was more about him believing that its because NEETs dont want to do the work as it is too hard or beneath them.

He wasnt naming names or even close!

Not in the cases I've seen (NHS radiography department).

NHS thinks it's getting a bargain, a 'highly skilled' applicant with years of experience.

In practice they seem to know less than the new students coming in to learn. They are happy to cut corners and ignore safety rules.

Anyone who raises concerns has the 'racist are ye father?' eyebrows raused at them.

Please do. I got my (EU) citizenship when Trump got in the first time - I suddenly realised that it would be very sensible to have the same nationality as my children.

I wish I had turned out to be overreacting 😭

We used to do so.

If you had a brain cell you'd be dangerous.

That has changed then. You are right it is five years now.

Shrodingers migrant

When my DD applied for a job in the USA, the recruiter had to prove (for her visa), that they had tried to recruit an American citizen first. Surely we should do the same!

Can you show me any credible data to demonstrate that MN has any political influence?

Sorry! I retract my statement 😂

I sadly agree. Going to do this very soon.

This technically also isn't true. Do people not have google to actually have an understanding of the visa laws?

I did think using the term ' sly muggles" made it plain I was being facetious but clearly not!

Dont be so ridiculous!!

You can't go quoting FACTS on a thread like this, that just upsets the frothers and means that they can't keep spouting racist rhetoric!

Stop being so selfish!

(Joking, obviously).