FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

https://www.ipso.co.uk/rulings/11838-15/

I'm sure many of them are.

"literally frothing"? 🤣

I thought that according to Reform immigrants were mostly here to claim benefits...so which is it?

Also these so called stats come from the Centre for Social Justice, a think tank founder by politicians including Ian Duncan Smith and has ties to the Conservative party.

It is not an independent, unbiased source of information. It's just right wing propaganda.

Most people can work in care. Most people can't do a good job working in care by which I mean be consistently the sort of person that you would want looking after your own elderly parent even at the end of a long shift and even when all sorts of stuff is happening in their personal life to distract them. It takes a certain amount of physical capability but also a lot of hard and soft skills to do right.

Have your young adults applied for jobs as a carer? Cleaner?

I doubt he’s say that they’d had to retract if they hadn’t somehow. They’d sue him.

Why are you talking to me though? It’s completely irrelevant to what I posted.

Did you reply to the wrong post?

You could save time by using social media for canvassing and lobbying rather than 'being out' doing it. But you don't believe that exists so do enjoy your door knocking and pamphlets.

Exactly. There are significant numbers of very vocal posters with views aligned to the Conservatives, Reform and Restore.

I think that is a quote by a Sky reporter not the Times.

A lot of low paid hard work jobs often 24/7 are done by immigrants. Young British people don't even apply for them.

It will be carers, l live in a town with loads of care homes they cant get uk staff to work here so employ migrants.
Also we have a big tourism industry they can't get staff do lots of Ukraine, l dont see the problem they work and pay tax.

I’m still wondering what jobs @OpenScroller ‘s kids are looking for as it seems the majority being stolen’ by foreigners are either highly skilled- surgeon, Dr etc or low paid - carer, cleaner, porter

It looks as if The Times has already had to retract this misinformation.

https://bsky.app/profile/jdportes.bsky.social/post/3mxtjorjxbc2h

But not necessarily work they needed a degree for

Most people can work in care. But it's too hard, not 9-5 hours and too low paid for most British young people.

I don’t know what the cleaner/carer bit has to do with it? And the bus driver thing was for people who are ALREADY bus drivers. Just saying.

(You would need Dutch in order to work as a carer anyway)

Vote Leave did we? 🤣

That is a long time. I would have wanted all UK graduates to be in a job before 15 months has arrived.

That article's not data though - it's opinion. I'm not going to debate with you anymore because it's a waste of my time and I would rather spend that out canvassing, lobbying and doing other things to effect real, meaningful change both politically and in my community. Posting endlessly on MN achieves nothing.

The article uses genuine statistics but presents them in a way that creates a misleading impression.

Misleading headline: Migrants didn't necessarily take 80% of newly created jobs. They accounted for 80% of the net increase in payroll employment. That's a very different measure.

No evidence of displacement: There's no evidence that the jobs filled by migrants would otherwise have gone to British workers.

Misleading use of "migrants": The figures are based on recorded nationality, not immigration status. Some workers classified as foreign nationals may have lived in Britain for decades or since childhood.

Unproven link to benefits: The article implies that immigration has caused more British people to claim benefits, but provides no evidence of causation. Illness, disability and other barriers to employment aren't adequately considered.

Ignores workforce shortages: Almost 30% of the increase in non-EU employment was in health and social care, sectors that have struggled to recruit sufficient staff.

Missing context: Despite the headline, British nationals still account for approximately 80% of all PAYE employments.

In short: The article takes two genuine trends — increasing migrant employment and rising benefit claims — and implies that one is responsible for the other, without demonstrating any causal connection. It's a selective presentation of statistics that risks encouraging readers to blame migrants for much more complex economic and social problems.

The majority of UK students take degrees in applied fields.
87% of UK graduates are in work within 15 months of completing their degree.

Well, it has to be a short version. But largely, no, not that complicated. Employers would shout if it was.

Yes

Some people such as the OP don't have any capacity for critical thought.