FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

The key word here is "imagine".
Some evidence wouldn't go amiss.

Love this. 😆

It’s horrible to see our young people left on benefits because they cannot find work.
My dd who finished her A level with great grades is struggling to find anything and has gone for hundreds of jobs.
She is polite, hardworking and drives yet has been rejected from retail, catering and various other roles despite being flexible and open minded about what she does.
its soul destroying and leaves the question what are employers looking for?
Unfortunately I do believe the employment market is being taken over by foreign nationals who tend to like to employ their own.
Our young people have no opportunities in their own country it’s depressing.

Oh for sure. I’ve encountered it often enough myself - people complaining about immigrants and then, seeing my raised eyebrows, saying, “I didn’t mean you!”

And the sad thing is, they really didn’t mean me - they meant brown Muslims and expected me to agree.

I did indeed! But your accent generally shows where you grew up. Mine (also) doesn’t match my nationality. I mentioned it in the context of people coming to the UK to work in relatively unskilled jobs.

I don’t think that all the people I encountered in souvenir shops were born Brits who grew up elsewhere.

And of course I didn’t mean that all English people (or even the majority!) think they are superior - just that I’ve encountered it a number of times. I’ve not met every English person anyway 😉

We have too many people in the UK who don't want to work full stop! My next door neighbour, 4 year old daughter (now goes to school), she and her new fella don't work, father of the child doesn't work. Live in a council supplied home, doing nothing other than taxi's to the shops, uber eat deliveries and going on the tiles every weekend.
Apart from the amount of money they're costing taxpayers, I find it utterly depressing that this is all their life is at aged about 25ish. Why does nobody want to live a bit anymore?

Exactly. And when you check their sources they are quoting their own "math". Interesting.

Is that true? I thought that was 5 years, after allowed to apply to remain? Plus spousal visa means that the spouse must earn a set amount of money to pay for their spouse. That's what happened with someone I knew who is English but brought her partner from overseas.

The reality is that we have an absolutely screwed jobs market in this country! We have low or unskilled vacancy gaps that have no career potential so they don't get filled. We have a ton of jobs that expect a ridiculous assortment of experience of skills,qualifications and experience that few people can live up to and for not that much more money than minimum wage.

People can't afford to retire until the state pension kicks in at 67, nobody wants to train or develop anybody and it leaves so many people in limbo! And if or when you do get that job you live, you get made redundant as businesses are closing hand over fist in this country!

And for anybody that's disabled or develops a chronic condition, it's frequently hell to get an employer to agree to even minor adjustments to a role.

I'm H&S by trade, I saw a Junior HSE position being advertised recently, working pattern is ten days on and 4 off and working hours 12 noon to 10pm! Who wants to live that life? And the amount of experience you were required to have that role did not match up with it being junior! And forget seeing anyone you live with or having a social life! This is what people are up against plus the fact that many jobs are 6 & 12 month temp contracts now!

I thought quite a few EU migrants had left the UK since Brexit. Those figures would include people like me, who haven't lived in the UK for the better part of a decade.

Speaking for myself only I wouldn't look down on a South African/Australian. But I have experienced a South African in the UK sort of thinking they were better than my (English as it happened) colleague who they assumed was an immigrant. It was a bit of a "hang on a minute situation". Not that there is anything wrong with being an immigrant from South Africa or anywhere but I don't think they had more right to be in the country than someone born there just because if skin colour. I do think that person felt looked down on for being grouped in the immigrant category with brown immigrants. BUT they were an exception not the rule.

I mean some people are universally dickheads. The point I was making was the headline is designed to dog whistle about brown immigrants when non EU can mean may other nations

You do know people with UK citizenship can have forrin accents yes?

But a lot of UK nationals don't want to work in social care.

And we have 1 million young people who are NEETS and mostly on benefits. Apparently many of them are too "anxious" to work.

I don’t know about Americans but I’ve experienced for myself how some/many English people in particular look down on Australians and South Africans.

You do realise that immigrants aren’t entitled to benefits right? My wife is an immigrant & was on a work visa with her school (she’s a teacher) for 10 years before she could apply for leave to remain. She was not entitled to any benefits then & she still isn’t now! You’re not entitled to any public funds until you become an actual British citizen, which is expensive & takes years to achieve.

I was more wondering from the UK visa point of view IYSWIM 😊

When I went to New York last, the vast majority of souvenir shops were being run by south Asian people (with accents).

My experience when hiring for a couple of large companies was that no one wanted the faff of hiring someone without the right to work. This may of course be different in technical/specialist roles.

So hang on immigrants are a scourge in society draining our benefits and they’re also stealing all our jobs? Which is it?

Most people on UC are in work, whether white or brown, we should look at why working full time at Sainsbury’s or Starbucks or as a care worker or a cleaner is not paid well enough that a top up is needed.

I don’t know why this pisses people off, we need doctors, bus drivers, shop assistants, care workers, baristas, waitresses - it’s surely good people are working regardless of skin colour or ethnicity. People are just annoyed because they don’t want to believe a foreigner could do their job or compete with them. FYI non EU also included Australians, Americans, South Africans - or is it okay if they’re white?

Because entry level jobs in those sectors which provide such training are like hens teeth. It's easier to get a job when you already have experience.

I was surprised when in the UK recently that there were quite a few people who were clearly from India/Pakistan (I mean based on their accents, not just assuming based on appearance) working in souvenir shops. No judgement either way, but it did make me wonder!

So these are skilled jobs ..so why can’t UK nationals train for them?

people who have a social housing place are also expected to actually live there.