FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

Also that stat is from 2021 when the job market was very different.

That isn't the case now.

Where on earth are you getting working class parents from? How about working class teens living nearby

Yes I saw a job being advertised the other week where they wanted at least two years experience and the salary was £23K for full time! Correct me if I am wrong, but that's not minimum wage and so is unlawful!

Of course. That's why graduates are applying for 200 jobs and only getting 2 interviews and no jobs. From retail to hospitality to actual graduate jobs in their field.

If immigrants are taking those jobs and our own graduates are unemployed as a consequence, something has to change fast.

It is not because they are lazy.

And it's no good saying "well they'll just have to do care work". Even if they did, that would only give jobs to some of them. And would you want a young male graduate wiping your arse when you're 90? I don't!

Most jobs of this nature are bombarded with applications from graduates because nearly every job which could be entry level sticks a "needs 1-2 years experience" in to weed them out and try to stop themselves getting 500 applications.

There has to be a reason people didn't apply.

Well I think they are going because they ran out of job prospects in the UK. They go to Australia and hope they'll gain experiences there which will help with the job hunt when they return - or they'll find more meaningful work there.

Yes, this. I saw this yesterday on the Telegraph website and you can imagine the frothing.

But there is something very wrong when we have a million unemployed youngsters (and that doesn't include the ones on disability benefits who could work, given some adjustments) and the ones not signing on at all. Nobody should be getting a visa unless they have skills that we cannot find ourselves.

I realise there is some work that British born/resident people don't want to do like care work, so there have to be some sectors which have some special rules but why do we need so many foreign nurses? Or postpeople? Or rail workers? Or even office cleaners? And then there are the skilled areas like tech/IT work. Do we really need to import people to work on IT helpdesks? Can we really not train some of our own intelligent graduates/school leavers?

And then there are people who were here and working but couldn't get their visa extended and had to leave! Why do they have to leave when they were already contributing and paying tax - and yet we then allow in other immigrants.

I agree employers want deferential people who won't argue.

Young, generally middle-class Brits go backpacking around Australia and do fruit picking/seasonal work to help fund their trip.

If you cannot see the difference between a young, middle-class Brit taking a gap year and a working-class parent who needs to be home to do the school run and isn't allowed to leave their HA house empty, I don't know how to help explain it to you.

They are going to experience Australia, and the fruit picking finances their stay. They are not going because they have ran out of job prospects in the UK.

So maybe we just need to put a few wooden Kangeroos in the fields and people will be putting their playstations down and running to the fields.

Yet brits go over to Australia and pick fruit there

And the 'locals' don't want to do the so called 'low skilled' job you are describing.

Quite we need the foreigners! So many Brits just don't have the work ethic or any skills.

I can tell you that it is completely impossible to get ethnic British people to work as fruit pickers. When I worked for a farm, they all laughed when I asked where they advertised in Britain. Once, in 2014-2016, I can't remember when, they contacted a job centre that informed the farm that they would send 45 people for an interview. 7 turned up. Only 4:were physically capable of doing the job. Ie. only 4 were not obese. The farm had a bus and was willing to pick up people several places in the city centre each day and drive them home in the afternoon.

It is beneath Brits apparently. A lot of them have the same reaction to jobs like cleaners and carers.

I remember reading on Facebook that a non-British woman who was a manager got told by the company receptionist, that she ( the receptionist) had voted for Brexit because she hoped she could then get the manager's job. The manager had a Master's degree and spoke several languages. The receptionist had her GCSEs and only spoke English.

I also heard from a science professor at a British university that the majority of his team was foreign because most of the Brits with an education in science simply didn't know maths on a sufficiently high level. It was also a problem to find Brits who can do large scale programming. Ie. they cannot handle large data sets. He felt that the problem is that they students pay for their education and therefore the universities have a tendency to let students pass who really really shouldn't pass or to lower the level of the exam so that everyone can pass.

My point here is that the problem isn't the foreigners.

Indeed. That's without looking at where the vacancies lie and the lack of skills/geographical match between job seekers and available roles. Its not much help to Dave who's been laid off from his factory in Hull that there are vacancies in slough for dental hygienists.

There are 2.5 job seekers for every vacancy in the UK. I sincerely hope`any plans to punish jobseekers financially if they cannot find work are preceded by a plan to create enough jobs for everyone to have one.

I imagine PP is one of the posters who understands this well. And that the comment was to highlight the inconsistency of people who blame immigrants for being on benefits then get equally upset at the thought they are occupying jobs. Obviously these people don't want immigrants here at all and the benefits/taking jobs arguments are just their justification. But it is amusing to watch then try to justify two contradictory arguments at once. For a while we heard "I don't mind if they come here and contribute..." even from Farage. Yet when there is a suggestion they have jobs, whoops. Better object to that too.

You can easily hear the plans for yourself. The interview on TRIP is free. ☺️

I hope you're right, because if we don't get youth unemployment sorted out, the future for this country is extremely bleak.

You clearly don’t understand what that phrase means. Hint, it doesn’t mean not now but in the near future.

Long grass

It hasn’t been kicked into the long grass. There’s a further report to come which will be published after the Spending Review. He explains it in a lengthy interview on a recent The Rest is Politics. It’s something Burnham is passionate about.

Hopefully the Government will action what Milburn was hinting at. Give young people a period of time to find a job with a bit of support and then apply the stick of removing their benefits. They will almost certainly then decide that one of the many job options is actually not that bad.

Gutted that they kicked his reporting into the long grass.

I’m not remotely upset by it because it’s not true and all the papers that printed it have had to retract it.

I love the irony of the posters getting their knickers in a twist over the use of the Americanism "Do the Math" whilst seeming outranged that anyone should be upset that 80% of jobs go to immigrants. With that many immigrants there is bound to be a shift in language used. "Do the Math" is a phase that is now in common parlance in the UK.