FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

I mean…… be a better employee then? What do you want people to say?

Judging by my workplace… there’s a reason for those stats.

My son in law worked in recruitment for several large warehouses (think Amazon, big online shops etc) until recently. He said that the vast vast majority of applicants were foreign nationals, and that many of the UK nationals that do apply leave pretty quickly as the work is boring, physically taxing and the hours are long. The money is very good as a result.

He thinks that many British young people see the job as beneath them and dont want to do the hard work that it takes to earn the wages.

I've no particular opinion on the subject, but those two things can both be true: for one working adult, there may be several dependants, including elderly parents as well as children.

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/gazan-family-refugee-status-asylum-rejection-gwsq2c8b

I agree with you - I’ve lived here (NL) for many years and have met all sorts of people doing all sorts of work.
I myself have a degree <preens > and have done office temping, cleaning and waitressing all over the place. So not just career-furthering work the whole time.
For a long time language was the main barrier but that hasn’t been the case since before covid.

So when you were at school, you had double math on a Thursday? I think not.

123 posts so far.
Only three calling BOT.

So not mostly posters shouting BOT.

Did you do the 'math' for the report?

I think for things like prison officers the UK did slack in training/recruiting them for years. The recruitment of already trained officers from overseas made that particular can easier to kick down the road and it's absolutely something that was done knowingly by IDS (now whining about the problem he created).

However, given that we are where we are and training prison officers takes time it would be madness to start reducing prison officers employed from overseas now. What needs to happen is money put into recruitment and training and advertising it as a viable job but the training needs to be good so you wouldn't expect to be able to start filling new jobs with those newly trained workers for another year.

As a parent of teens and young adults who have been struggling to get jobs (and I know they are far from the only ones out of their peers), I think it's an important topic for discussion

Do you think that foreigners are likely to be employed ahead of your British kids then? What sort of jobs are your kids applying for.?.

Look at the aspirations, attendance and behaviour of lots of British teenagers and this is hardly surprising.

I wonder if OP will amend her title or let it stand as “fact”.

I think those who recognise my username would likely say I'm one of the most right-leaning posters on MN when it comes to the subject of immigration. I'm skeptical about this report though, it sounds absurd.

Except lots of posters have said why the report and OP’s interpretation is wrong….

I take your point about shouting ‘bot’ though. Although there are a fuck-ton of them these days.

Given that you're clearly not British, OP, can I ask what job you do? And why you've come to the UK?

About as reliable as the idea stated on here that immigrant workers are permitted to claim benefits 🤦‍♀️

What about all the responses providing alternative information? You going to just ignore those?

Regarding your source : “A 2023 assessment by Who Funds You? gave the CSJ a D transparency grade, indicating limited disclosure under that assessment's criteria” only name attached to it seems to be Iain Duncan Smith, some peddling going on here OP !

I work for a company that employees a high, high majority of overseas workers. We have probably 15% British workers out of 2500 at one site.
It's a running dark humour joke in our department when a British person starts because the work is manual and it is hard, and I could bet my paycheck on a young 16 to 25 year old British man quitting within a week. I am always right. I am British. I don't think employers should be allowed to pay crap wages to employ overseas workers. However, some roles, the younger British generation think a life on benefits is EASIER than a life working. So what are you meant to do when you need staff to keep your company running.

Social media is a huge influencer of public opinion.

Where do you think the term influencer comes from?
Why do companies spend billions on social media advertising?

Yes, you have to have a person with the skills and qualifications for that, correct.

Thanks for sharing - that’s much easier to understand too!

There is a mistaken belief that only posh young people with degrees on gap years benefitted from the freedom to work in the EU we had before Brexit. This was categorically not true. I know anecdotes aren't data but I knew people in Germany and the Netherlands in "trades" that came to work from the UK. It's. It just about money, it's also nice as a young person to have the freedom to try out new places etc and since carpenters etc are in demand in most places they had that.

That was an opportunity that young British people had in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s which todays generation of young people don't have. However there is a refusal to believe this is the case. People will insist to you that it's only British people with degrees who wants to work abroad for some reason.

I knew after reading OP’s post that this thread was going to be mostly others shouting bot. The predictably is getting boring now and it’s a lazy attempt at an answer for when people have no response and want to shut down any opinion that’s different to their own.

Exactly!

The report is ADDITIONAL vacancies, and includes a large swathe of jobs in sectors which were (are…) desperately short of workers. It’s not 80% of jobs are given to migrants.

Orrrrrrrrrrrrr, I could give myself as an example, perhaps. I’m a foreigner, came to do my PHD in the UK. Then I got a 50k job (in 2015, mind you), never claimed any benefits, never used the NHS - I would just fly home to do whatever I wanted without having to wait for weeks to be seen by a GP. By 2020 I was on 80k, and by 2022 on 150k. And that’s pretty much the path all of our foreigner friends have taken. Live and let live.

Did your DC apply for jobs in health and social care?