FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

Are you not worried your son in law could be sailing close to the wind if he is chatting away about the personal details of all the people he is involved in recruiting? General statistical information is usually ok (e.g 80% of applicants were overseas) but it sounds like he is getting into lots of quite detailed discussions about this. If it gets down to individuals or where he reckons an individual really comes from etc then that is potentially a breach of GDPR.

Segue, but I would really advise you to get your British passport. If you want to.
Bad times are coming.

This isn't true. They don't get a visa (sponsorship Skilled 2 visa) unless they are earning a certain amount from an employer.

The infrastructure sector is on its absolute arse as there is so much work, with no one qualified to do it. All our good engineers are retiring. And we can't get enough sponsorship spots to fill the void!

Yes, it's definitely the immigrants that are the reason why Brian is living at home with mummy and Daddy playing PlayStation instead of actually getting off his arse. FFS.

Two years if you are here under a marriage visa.

She was being facetious, I think it’s fair to say.

Interesting thread
As a "foreigner" well I have lived here for 30 years but I don't have a British passport yet, so I will be "counted" as that. I can say though, having just found a new job after a full professional career spanning 30 years, that most if not ALL the jobs I went for (100 plus) said "no sponsorship/had to have right to work already", so not sure which jobs were filled. It would be interesting to see a breakdown - could it be jobs that UK citizens don't want to do?
I have certainly competed fairly and squarely with British Citizens whilst facing racial, gender and age discrimination to boot. So no preferential treatment there at all.

Do you believe that billions are spent on influencing public opinion via social media but nobody wants to tap into the 8 million people on MN?

I am joking, you nutter! I am a brown immigrant married to another immigrant!

I think a lot of the jobs created are jobs that are not long-term career type jobs. My DD is on a Gap year and is doing lots of different casual jobs and is earning a reasonable amount of money. None of these jobs would be suitable on a long-term basis as they are very casual and the hours are very variable and they also have no potential for promotion really. It suits DD as she is saving to travel. I had nannies ,from Eastern Europe ,when my kids were younger and they would work lots of different jobs and live in multiple occupancy flats (sharing rooms etc..). The idea would be to earn lots of money in the UK and save to buy a property back home. They all returned back home when their children were young. They were able to buy substantial properties after working and saving money. We need much more investment in our young people as I fear that lots will leave for opportunities abroad (if they are well-educated and have those opportunities).

As someone who has to have the district nurse (obviously a qualified nurse) visit weekly, I can’t think of anything worse than having an unwilling and underpaid person in my house to look after me!

You make some really interesting points.

I think (well it’s hardly a newsflash) that it’s very difficult to effect cultural change, and the UK remains such a sexist society. I don’t know where we’d begin trying to get more respect for traditionally women’s work.

So we have these figures. But do they tell us what sectors these jobs are in? Did these jobs require specialist qualifications or at least university level education?

What benefit? Single men or women working for a living aren't entitled to any benefit! British men and women who are single and working aren't entitled to anything much less anyone who has been here and not paid anything in for at least 5 year! Don't race-bait, it's pathetic!

This sounds highly dubious. The total net immigration figure for the uk since 2014 is only about 3.4million people. So the vast majority of these “job-takers” (if the figures are even true) would have already been here, and would have competed for the job fair and square

Can I just say that new immigrants are not allowed to claim ANY benefits until they get an ILR. Which takes 5 years. They also pay a whopping nhs surcharge of £1200 per year, or thereabouts.

Because they are already trained so employers don't have to bother spending time training up 18 year olds, because someone else in another country has done that. And all the reasons the person I quoted stated. That if your visa is dependent on your job employers can get you to do what they like. There are also places who basically applied to be sponsors as part of visa scams. We have a hugely inefficient system for work ( and student) visas where people know full well they can just do what they like and the chances of them being caught are minimal.

heard This discussed on more or less and was completely discredited.

Does this include the thousands of seasonal workers picking fruit and veg?

Do we know the salaries for these jobs?

"Mumsnet does not have a single, fixed political stance, though it has traditionally leaned center-left or "woolly liberal" among its core demographic"

My original post referred specifically to MN.

As a lot of the roles are care work, according to the post, then a lot of those maybe new roles, as the need for care roles is increasing a the population ages.

Of course, those are the kind of roles the Brits don’t want to do. My friends dad had 3 carers barcode he passed away recently, none were British.

Employers who recruit an overseas worker do not have to advertise it to prove they could not find someone already here to do it.

Also, not everyone can be a carer. The Philippines is interesting because they seem to have a whole cultural thing of nursing and care work being a really noble/valued profession to go into. "Nurses from the Philippines" is a stereotype the world over. I know that's partly because the wages you can earn overseas nursing is more but I don't think it's just that because it isn't just the Phillipines where that is the case. It would be interesting to look at how to make.caring and nursing more culturally valued here. It's. It just about the pay, though I think that can matter as well. The problem is the attitude of "make the unemployed NEETs just do caring" bandied about isnt exactly going to help with that. It suggests it is something the "feckless layabouts" should be doing as punishment.

Or the lowest paid?