FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

I would also question this
I also heard from a science professor at a British university that the majority of his team was foreign because most of the Brits with an education in science simply didn't know maths on a sufficiently high level.

Britains education results are actually pretty good compared to the rest of the world. The UK scores in the top ranks of the global Pisa ranking for maths (It's basically the UK, Estonia and all the rest are Asian countries in the top ten). At a higher education level the science training/research and the connections top universities have to businesses are usually cited by industry leaders as one of the things the UK has going for it for industry (countered by the high electricity costs, lack of space, Brexit etc). That doesn't mean that employers won't want to recruit from overseas as well because if you want someone who is the very best in a very specialist area you spread the net wide. The UK is also very attractive to very talented people from India/Asia. Partly because the pay is better. Partly because of the high regard its Universities are held in ironically. So UK graduates are competing against the very best of much more populous countries (who to be fair take maths very seriously and also do very well in the Pisa rankings). We have issues
But it is nonsense to suggest that science degrees from top UK universities are looked down on or providing substantially inferior graduates.

The farm had a bus Is that singular or plural Do all the farms do it?

Yes, because everyone lives near a farm 🙄

We were not even on about teens here... just general unemployed which could be people in their 60s. Do you think people in their 60s would be doing fruit picking?

Oh FFS How thick are some people.? Unemployed teens living with parents and hopefully near the farm.

They won't be buying a house on seasonal work ( not that many teens but houses) 1 but they will have a couple of months work rather than languishing on under £100 a week universal credit while sat in their bedroom

Unemployed teens magic money out their arse and fly to Oz?

They will be very different groups of teens. The ones motivated enough to go to Australia and get work to fund their trip are not going same ones that are unemployed They probably work in the UK to fund the trip also and will have got more life experience to get a job when they get back. Some teens just have the get up and go and other don't

They will be very different groups of teens. The ones motivated enough to go to Australia and get work to fund their trip are not going same ones that are unemployed They probably work in the UK to fund the trip also and will have got more life experience to get a job when they get back. Some teens just have the get up and go and other don't

Unemployed teens magic money out their arse and fly to Oz?

Unemployed teens magic money out their arse and fly to Oz?

So why can't the unemployed teens do it

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's pretty obvious the poster wanted the teenage benefit claimants (young care leavers and young parents) and not the middle class uni students who go backpacking around Aus to go fruit picking on British farms for a pittance, so social housing rules are very much relevant.

Totally different reasons though.

Back packing Brits do it in Australia to fund their trip. They are not there because they could not get a job here. No one unemployed with no money is spending the £1k+ for flights to Oz.
Those Brits are not the ones desperate for work here. They tend to be middle class and on a gap year.

Yes I know So they can do in UK as well

And here it is

Yet brits go over to Australia and pick fruit there

I said if British teens can pick fruit in Australia they could in UK. I never Brough social housing into it as was irrelevant

Thats not what you said initially though is it.

As I wrote, the farm had a bus that could pick people up before work and take them home after work. The farm had also informed the job centre that they were willing to add more stops for the bus, in case people lived too far from the existing stops.

So no, it was not necessarily live in work. It was live in work for some of the foreigners, but most of us preferred to live in town just like the Brits. I worked in the office but some of the fruit pickers lived close to me in town. Mind you, they were all foreign.

I would also like to add that while the farm had more fruit pickers in the spring and the summer, there were a lot of fruit pickers/farm hands who worked all of the year. This was mainly due to the fact that most of the plants were in greenhouse tunnels, which extended the season for most of the fruit. For instance, when you grow strawberries outside, the season is six weeks long, but in a greenhouse or greenhouse tunnel, the strawberry season is six months long.

So no, actually not hypocrisy.

We simply don’t value care work.

Can’t believe I’m rising to this bait, but the horrific thing about our care system is that the immigrant women propping it up are brought here, paid peanuts, can barely afford housing and transport and are not entitled to any benefits.

A family member relies on carers and their situations are heartbreaking. They are making sacrifice after sacrifice for their children, some of whom they can’t even bring to the UK. Even if their visa allows they can’t always afford housing to accommodate them.

Well a lot of low paid social and health care employees will be claiming top up benefits, ditto those in other low paid roles if they bring families with them.

Cost of living in the UK is hardly cheap is it now.