To expect people ill with Covid stay home?

I know and that is where it also needs to change. So employers need to have a look at their sickness policy and think of the greater good. Won’t happen I guess.

I have huge sympathy for those with strict workplace sickness policies who can’t take much time off when sick.

For me, I am more talking about those that could WFH but choose not to.

Or those that go to the gym/exercise classes when it wouldn’t kill then to miss a class. Or those that choose to visit relatives with illness when it would be so easy to reschedule.

Personally now for me - because I have experience with long Covid and know what damage Covid does - I just want that knowledge so I can choose to avoid sick people where possible. So if a friend has a cold and I’m
sharing a car - give me a heads up as I’m aware sharing a confined space with no air is a huge transmission risk.
whereas a large space is not. So I won’t share the car.

If I have visitors - tell me you’re ill and we’ll reschedule because again being in close contact is a high transmission risk.

This makes sense.

I get that but it’s still someone’s health and life at the end of the day. There’s no price can be put on that.

Surely most people couldn’t voluntarily bring themselves to kill someone for the sake of £75 independent of how much they have or don’t have. It’s conceptually the same situation, the action (knowingly spreading germs to vulnerable parties) just different and I think that difference disconnects people and makes it feel “less real”.

If ill then yes.

Well firstly you would have a conversation and explain. Secondly its not EVERY time - its if you or they are ill. Or you could meet outside, make sure ventilation is suitable. Its about education - the more we normalise it the better. No one says it will be perfect EVERY time but doing nothing changes nothing. If you hospitalised a client due to your infection would you care? If a client asks you to mask would you?

Have you answered this?

@mumatlast14
So teachers should wear masks now?
And you won't send your child to school with a cold?

We been told to wear masks if we have a cold. I've booked my flu and covid jab for next week.

@ExpectMore Says the woman who has "help" for her own children when taking 6 weeks off work!!! 😄
I will continue to be "greedy" and work in order to pay my rent
Get back to your kids, maybe?

In response to your edited comment re gov guidance and schools - they didn't have all the facts then. We now know the damage covid causes. See Long Covid Kids for full details. But yeah, let's just continue to disable our young people and increase our benefits cost/demand as those young people grow into adults too ill to work.

@mumatlast14 OK. So how would these YP respond to an authority figure coming into their home wearing a mask covering do you suppose?

Plenty. What experience do you have with working with clinically vulnerable and those suffering long covid? If you did you'd realise its important to find ways to protect everyone's health by using a variety of tools to do so.

This

@mumatlast14 What experience do you have of working with children with significant SEND needs? If you did you would understand re mask wearing but please see the other poster's detailed response for clarification.
Government guidance at the height of Covid ruled out mask-wearing for teachers, and that was in mainstream settings!!!

Keep an FFP3 in your bag and then you can pop it on and reduce your risk of infection.

Why? Doesn't their health matter?

I'm so sorry that you, and so many others, have Long Covid. Like cf / me it's like a secret illness no-one talks about. There are so many suffering from it. No wonder the numbers of jobless has risen. But can I give you some encouragement? I had a mild attack of Covid in January 2021, seemed briefly to recover, then Long Covid hit me like a tram. Amongst other things it affected, I managed to watch one of our daughters get married, but was too ill to attend most of the reception. Our milestone wedding anniversary celebration was also not what it should have been. BUT 5 and a half years later, I'm almost back to normal and praise God for it. I really hope you recover, too. 🙏

Its a shame you want to dismiss it with language like 'laughable'. I guess mould & damp was 'laughable' until it wasn't. Covid isnt 'minor. FFP3 Mask wearing should be mandatory if visiting clinically vulnerable while sick. Cause & effect - reduce exposure to infections will reduce infections. These people deserve protection from further health problems which will only exacerbate their current situation if it means they cant work or end up with long term health conditions.

If you have to go out then you have to. I think the issue is with people going out and risking infecting others if it’s not essential.

If people are ill, and HAVE to go to work, then there’s always an option on a well-fitting FFP3 - which have been proven to substantially lower infection risks. (The blue ones do nothing because it’s airborne and there are huge gaps at the sides).

@Pumpkindice Absolutely agree - and this is why mask use wouldn't be advisable for professionals working with the young people we do.

@ExpectMore Eurgh don't call me Mrs anything!!
You don't like teachers?!
Ah now there's a surprise!!

Yes, there is a selfishness aspect, but also a policy aspect as far as workplaces are concerned.