AIBU - problems with antisemitism amongst NHS medical staff?

By your logic, if a person of Russian heritage presents as an NHS patient, an NHS employee would be perfectly justified in haranguing them for Russia’s war crimes in Ukraine?

What have I just read. Jews just have to put up with it while going through the same complaint channels as everyone else!! Yes, while their primary children's schools are patrolled by strict security with such an unprecedented amount of hatred, they have got to just go with the flow, in the case of hostile people they come into contact with. Fcking hell Antisemitism is sometimes cleverly hidden. Put up and shut up because its not that different to anyone else's complaints.

I wasn’t only talking about comments staff made online. As has already been pointed out to you. Don’t make me post the key findings of the Mann review into antisemitism and racism in the NHS again.

So you would not see any reason why the poppy worn by staff in the nhs in say Belfast, where the British army were on the streets for decades, shot at and killed civilians, colluded with paramilitaries and intimidated communities, would be seen as political? Britain and the NHS covers a whole lot more than just England

It's always surprises me how politicised NHS staff and teachers are.

The fact you need to ask demonstrates how little you know about it tbh. Poppy wearing in northern Ireland is a contentious, divisive and politically charged issue. NHS staff there do have a personal choice whether they wear one or not but many people would see it as a symbol of British army actions in NI and not a sign of remembrance and are offended by it. The point being, dismissing poppy wearing as not political, as has been done by some posters, is not accurate, it is deeply political in some British communities.

Don’t be ridiculous. There is a complaints procedure for all patients if they receive poor or discriminatory behaviour whilst they are receiving NHS care. That is the channel to go through should anything happen, you’re talking hypothetically not about actual incidents. Wearing a badge is not an incident. I don’t like crosses or any religious sign, neither does my gay child as he knows several religions are discriminatory towards the lgbt community however he has to suck it up if staff choose to wear religious jewellery. He does not however have to put up with abuse or discriminatory behaviour and he would need to report it in the same way as every other person. Abuse is abuse, ditto discrimination. Nobody is more worthy of protection.

I wasn’t only talking about comments staff made online. As has already been pointed out to you. Don’t make me post the key findings of the Mann review into antisemitism and racism in the NHS again.

I don't think criticising netanyahu is racist. Also you've given a sample of 5, several of which don't even seem to be about Jewish people they are about the political actions by the Israeli government, there are tens of thousands of people turning for the NHS, will some of them be racist. Yes, it's inevitable. Does that mean the NHS has a problem with anti-Semitism, no.

You're not likely to get good answers on here. It's all going to be "what about Israel?" And I don't support the Israeli government at all.

Dr Rameh Aladwan (who was suspended) has gone absolutely mask off on her twitter. We're talking conspiracy theories about the Talmud.

certainly you can criticise Israel without being an antisemite. But there's an experience I've had more than once (as a British-American Jew) of people bringing up the conflict in a pointed way, knowing I'm Jewish, looking for my reaction.

I did once experience antisemitism on the NHS but I couldn't have proved it. I have a very obviously Jewish surname and at the time lived in a very Jewish part of north London. I was questioning th midwife about some test results, and she said something about how I was being very inquisitive (not the exact word she used, I can't remember it now) and then "but you people always are" and I knew precisely what she was referring to.

When the person in question ONLY criticises Israel over and over and never shows a wider concern for other conflicts/suffering, then it’s a pretty safe bet that the person is consciously or otherwise antisemitic.

Do these healthcare workers also post about the suffering and atrocities in Sudan? The persecution of the Uigyurs by China? Are they posting death to Xi Jinping? Or Putin? Are they raising awareness of the persecution of Christians by Muslims in Nigeria?

Or is it just they have an obsession where there’s a Jew to blame?

There’s no place for racism in the NHS and all UK citizens have a right to be treated fairly and without prejudice. I’m surprised and extremely disappointed that anyone would think differently.

I don’t want to come across as dramatic but the more I read threads like this and a similar one last week the more I realise that I don’t see a future for myself as a British Jew here in the UK. The constant “it’s not anti semitism it’s anti Zionism” line is getting tired. All this attention on Gaza only stems from an obsession with the only Jewish state. There is no genocide happening and to be fair I don’t blame most on here for their views because if I were getting my news from the BBC or Sky I’d probably think the same. It’s just pathetic really how so many are so blind to the changing face of antisemitism.

This is really offensive.

All this attention on Gaza only stems from an obsession with the only Jewish state.

This for example. People are not obsessed with Israel. They are shocked by the the scale of destruction meted out to the men, women and children in Gaza. This is a good thing. Surely you would prefer a world in which people are stunned and repulsed by that?

There is no genocide happening

You can argue the toss on language or legal meanings of genocide. But - we can all agree that way too many people have died.

I realise that I don’t see a future for myself as a British Jew here in the UK

This is indeed a pity.

If they aren't also concerned about the massive levels of violence happening elsewhere in the world and only concentrate on Gaza then I assume anti semitism I'm afraid. Can't pick and chose your concern.

This is really offensive.

All this attention on Gaza only stems from an obsession with the only Jewish state.

This for example. People are not obsessed with Israel. They are shocked by the the scale of destruction meted out to the men, women and children in Gaza. This is a good thing. Surely you would prefer a world in which people are stunned and repulsed by that?

There is no genocide happening

You can argue the toss on language or legal meanings of genocide. But - we can all agree that way too many people have died.

I realise that I don’t see a future for myself as a British Jew here in the UK

This is indeed a pity.

They can say what they want. There is no genocide. There is a war with casualties. There is no killing with intent. Nothing I will say can convince you.

When the person in question ONLY criticises Israel over and over and never shows a wider concern for other conflicts/suffering, then it’s a pretty safe bet that the person is consciously or otherwise antisemitic.

Do these healthcare workers also post about the suffering and atrocities in Sudan? The persecution of the Uigyurs by China? Are they posting death to Xi Jinping? Or Putin? Are they raising awareness of the persecution of Christians by Muslims in Nigeria?

Or is it just they have an obsession where there’s a Jew to blame?

There’s no place for racism in the NHS and all UK citizens have a right to be treated fairly and without prejudice. I’m surprised and extremely disappointed that anyone would think differently.

Apparently we can only be shocked by people suffering when the countries involved are ones the West trades with or gives a lot of money to.

Doesn’t feel quite right morally speaking but it conveniently explains all the focus on the Israel/Palestine conflict.

We trade with countries because our economy is even more f’d than it currently is if we don’t. People in Palestine are being attacked because their rulers - Hamas - butchered Israelis in the most hideous possible way. Palestinians voted for Hamas. make if that what you will.

Buy this fighting is miles away. There is nothing we as a nation can do or say that will make the slightest iota of difference. People go on marches etc for one of two reasons. Either they’re caught up in the whole virtue signaling of it and don’t really understand what antisemitism is, or they’re nasty little antisemites. Either way it’s grim. We need to focus efforts on making changes that improve OUR country, not whining about things going on thousands of miles away that we have no influence on whatsoever.