AIBU - problems with antisemitism amongst NHS medical staff?

Hard to tell tbe difference unfortunately. Especially when the first march in London after October 7th was organised by Hamas supporters.

There seems to be a strange attempt on here to equate wearing a poppy (a tradition socially accepted by the majority of people in mainland Britain commemorating our own war dead) with wearing a badge supporting a terrorist organisation thousands of miles away which is leading our Jewish population to feel unsafe in hospital.

It is a strange argument and one that I expect most normal, sound people disagree with.

But obviously everyone has the freedom to express their own views however unpalatable.

I think that isn't allowed. You do know there is a difference between the symbol of tne state of Israel and symbols of the Jewsih faith?

Whats your point?

People wearing a Palestinian flag are generally supporting the people of Palestine. Not Hamas. At least that is my experience.

I’m not talking about Jews as the religion or ethnicity. I am talking about israel. So maybe a small Israeli flag or pin?

There seems to be a strange attempt on here to equate wearing a poppy (a tradition socially accepted by the majority of people in mainland Britain commemorating our own war dead) with wearing a badge supporting a terrorist organisation thousands of miles away which is leading our Jewish population to feel unsafe in hospital.

It is a strange argument and one that I expect most normal, sound people disagree with.

But obviously everyone has the freedom to express their own views however unpalatable.

Such as a religious symbol like the star of David? Can NHS workers wear crosses or a veil?

Anyway I thought the Gazan supporters argument was that they didnt have a problem with Jews?

Such as a religious symbol like the star of David? Can NHS workers wear crosses or a veil?

Anyway I thought the Gazan supporters argument was that they didnt have a problem with Jews?

Such as a religious symbol like the star of David? Can NHS workers wear crosses or a veil?

Anyway I thought the Gazan supporters argument was that they didnt have a problem with Jews?

There's no such thing as Northern Irish Britons. Northern Ireland is not part of Britain (it is part of the UK though).

Northern Irish people might be living in England, Scotland or Wales but they are not British. They have their own health care system that is not part of the NHS.

How would you feel if nhs staff were banned from wearing anything suggesting Israeli heritage or affiliation? Because Palestinians or others in the receiving end of Israel’s foreign policy may feel threatened or intimidated?

or would that be antisemitic?

There's no such thing as Northern Irish Britons. Northern Ireland is not part of Britain (it is part of the UK though).

Northern Irish people might be living in England, Scotland or Wales but they are not British. They have their own health care system that is not part of the NHS.

Ah so we should ban political items that you personal consider to be political. That's not opening a can of worms at all! Does it occur to you northern Irish Britain's live in the rest of Britain too?

I dont think I was making "blanket policy". I was just expressing a view on MN regarding visible symbols showing support for Hamas should be (and are) banned as they show the wearer is perhaps malevolent towards Jews.

If you would like to argue that poppies are scaring people from N Ireland on the mainland in the same way then I suggest you start a thread on the issue.

I have no opinion. I have said that the ICJ are the correct body to determine whether a genocide has taken place and that can only be after due process has been followed. I express no view regarding settlements.

I dont think I was making "blanket policy". I was just expressing a view on MN regarding visible symbols showing support for Hamas should be (and are) banned as they show the wearer is perhaps malevolent towards Jews.

If you would like to argue that poppies are scaring people from N Ireland on the mainland in the same way then I suggest you start a thread on the issue.

But what's your opinion on their judgements, you make it clear Israel may choose not to follow it, which we've all seen that they disregard international law..I'm asking your opinion on the preventative measures and on the judgement that the settlements are in breach of international law? What's your opinion on the ICC arrest warrants?

That's clear. Everyone has different opinions which is why we don't make blanket policy on people's subjective opinions.

I don't believe there is such a thing as effective international law really. It only works if countries agree to follow it. So whether Israel follows any judgement is up to them. The ICJ has no standing army or means to enforce any judgement themselves.

If they accept the ICJ jurisdiction however then witness evidence will need to be collected regarding genocide. This will take a few years. If due process is followed rather than premature opinions then perhaps there will be a proper ruling that other countries can then bear in mind in their dealings witb Israel.

I disagree.

You're being disingenuous to act like you care about patients feelings or distress but repeatedly dismiss the feelings of patients you happen to disagree with, just because the complicated feelings they have towards their dead relatives, aren't shared by you.

To be clear, do you consider the ICJ opinion of the highest importance? If so, What's your opinion on them issuing measures to Israel to prevent genocide while they investigate and their ruling that Israeli settlements are illegal under international always and that Israel must end it's illegal occupation. Do you agree that Israel are in breach of the ICJ ruling, considering you only want their opinion of it's a genocide ?