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Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 06:32

The Campaign Against Antisemitism, a prominent UK watchdog group, has identified five healthcare professionals whose public statements it considers antisemitic or anti-Israel.

The five individuals, all current or former National Health Service employees, include midwife Fatimah Mohamied, who allegedly endorsed a post supporting Palestinian “resistance” on Oct. 7, 2023 by responding “Hell yeah!!!” to a post during the Hamas-led onslaught of October 7, 2023, that said: “Palestinians have a right to resist their occupation — we have a right to support them.”

Additionally, physician Dr. Abdelaal Ragheb Elfarra claimed Zionists control the media and the world; psychiatrist Dr. Ahmed Sewehli said regarding Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “you need to be dead”; and emergency physician Dr. Nadeem Crowe described Israel as a “terrorist octopus.” Occupational therapist Zaida Akhtar allegedly shared a video appearing to encourage violence against Netanyahu’s son and a “false flag” claim about the Bondi Beach attack in Australia last year.

The allegations concerning the medical professionals follow a review published in June by John Mann, the British government’s independent adviser on antisemitism, which found “routine ostracism” of Jewish staff and patients within the NHS.

Jewish community representatives have warned that antisemitism in healthcare can affect patients at moments of particular vulnerability.

Karen Newman, a vice president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, described that concern during parliamentary testimony on May 14. She spoke about Jewish patients hesitating to request kosher meals after seeing a Palestinian badge on a nurse’s uniform.

“That is not a moment when you feel good asking for kosher meals,” she said.

https://www.jns.org/news/world/medical-staff-antisemitism-flagged-in-uk

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KindlySurfiingPlatypus · 12/10/2026 11:42

knitnerd90 · 12/10/2026 09:44

Someone starts a thread about antisemitism and people immediately make it about Israeli crimes, while also saying anti Zionism isn't antisemitism. I can't imagine why we'd be sensitive about it.

(And for the record I recognise that while some people equate all anti-Zionism with antisemitism, I don't.)

the issue is that Jews in other countries get judged according to Israeli actions. Assumptions are made. It isn't always overt though it can be. I'm regularly asked if I'm a Zionist or what my opinions are, even though I'm not from Israel and have never lived there.

That's not fair. The thread title claims it's about antisemitism but 90% of the OP is about criticism of Israel and support of palestine. (The minimalisation/denial of the horror at Bondi Beach obviously not in this category) so don't blame people for "immediately making it about Israeli crimes" when that's what the OP is about.

5MinuteArgument · 12/10/2026 11:00

People should keep their political views out of their workplace, especially in a healthcare setting where they're dealing with vulnerable people.

I'm appalled that any nurse or medic is allowed to wear a Palestine badge, or the badge of any country.

For me it calls into question why we have allowed our NHS to become so over-reliant on foreign nationals.

Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 10:50

JLou08 · 12/10/2026 10:37

The issue is that people like yourself are viewing people against genocide (or alleged genocide in your opinion) and people in support of Palastine as anti-semetic. Is there real racism and ostracism or are people perceiving it as that when it is just in fact just people being anti-genocide?
You even say in response to a PP asking about examples of mistreatment towards patients
"Would you consider it a problem for healthcare professionals being racist against your race or religion on social media, as long as it couldn't be proved that they would treat you worse at work?"
There's no clear evidence that those people you quoted in your OP are anti-semetic, just that they are against the Israeli government and genocide, yet you and many others use that as 'evidence' of antisemitism.

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It's not just my opinion that it's legally called alleged genocide until the court case makes a decision. It's fact.

I'm not saying it is genocide or it isn't genocide. I'm saying only an international court can make that distinction and the court is still considering the evidence.

I don't think most people supporting Palestine are antisemitic. Most of my friends are more pro Palestine than pro Israel and I know they aren't antisemitic. I'm pro Palestine myself if you mean having sympathy for ordinary Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank.

However, it has been discovered that there are problems with antisemitism amongst NHS medical staff. That doesn't mean all staff, of course. I tagged you in the findings from the Mann report and you know the NHS have taken the report seriously. But you are ignoring the findings from the Mann report and even the lived experience of someone on this thread saying they were afraid to order a Kosher meal in hospital.

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overnightangel · 12/10/2026 10:45

Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 08:25

Would you consider it a problem for healthcare professionals being racist against your race or religion on social media, as long as it couldn't be proved that they would treat you worse at work? There is a reason people can be fired from many jobs - including the NHS - for inappropriate activity on social media.

We have seen an example even on this short thread of a Jewish person afraid to order kosher food in a hospital. Would you find that ok if it was a Muslim person afraid to order Halal food? Maybe you would. I wouldn't.

Halal food should be banned in the UK as we’re a civilised country so that’s not the best example but I otherwise agree

JLou08 · 12/10/2026 10:37

Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 10:22

Some of my examples are about what Jewish people have experienced in the NHS. As a reminder

The allegations concerning the medical professionals follow a review published in June by John Mann, the British government’s independent adviser on antisemitism, which found “routine ostracism” of Jewish staff and patients within the NHS.

Key Findings of the Review

  • Extent of Antisemitism: The review found that anti-Jewish racism, routine ostracism, and hostility are persistent and, in some cases, normalised across certain NHS settings.
  • Impact on Staff and Patients: Evidence showed Jewish staff facing increasing discrimination from colleagues—with some considering leaving the service—and Jewish patients expressing reluctance to seek medical treatment.
  • Regulatory Concerns: The report highlighted shortcomings in how health and care regulators (such as the General Medical Council) and NHS employers identify, report, and act on antisemitic behaviour.

The issue is that people like yourself are viewing people against genocide (or alleged genocide in your opinion) and people in support of Palastine as anti-semetic. Is there real racism and ostracism or are people perceiving it as that when it is just in fact just people being anti-genocide?
You even say in response to a PP asking about examples of mistreatment towards patients
"Would you consider it a problem for healthcare professionals being racist against your race or religion on social media, as long as it couldn't be proved that they would treat you worse at work?"
There's no clear evidence that those people you quoted in your OP are anti-semetic, just that they are against the Israeli government and genocide, yet you and many others use that as 'evidence' of antisemitism.

Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 10:22

JLou08 · 12/10/2026 10:19

Your examples are about people's views on Palestine and Israel, not British Jews. Someone being against genocide and the Israel administration does not make them anti-semetic. That's like saying someone who speaks out against Al-Queda is xenophobic and won't treat Muslims well.

Some of my examples are about what Jewish people have experienced in the NHS. As a reminder

The allegations concerning the medical professionals follow a review published in June by John Mann, the British government’s independent adviser on antisemitism, which found “routine ostracism” of Jewish staff and patients within the NHS.

Key Findings of the Review

  • Extent of Antisemitism: The review found that anti-Jewish racism, routine ostracism, and hostility are persistent and, in some cases, normalised across certain NHS settings.
  • Impact on Staff and Patients: Evidence showed Jewish staff facing increasing discrimination from colleagues—with some considering leaving the service—and Jewish patients expressing reluctance to seek medical treatment.
  • Regulatory Concerns: The report highlighted shortcomings in how health and care regulators (such as the General Medical Council) and NHS employers identify, report, and act on antisemitic behaviour.
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JLou08 · 12/10/2026 10:19

Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 07:07

The alleged genocide is being discussed on multiple threads.

This one is about the fair treatment of Jewish patients in UK healthcare settings.

Don't you think all patients should feel safe in the NHS?

Your examples are about people's views on Palestine and Israel, not British Jews. Someone being against genocide and the Israel administration does not make them anti-semetic. That's like saying someone who speaks out against Al-Queda is xenophobic and won't treat Muslims well.

Stompythedinosaur · 12/10/2026 10:19

Bikenutz · 12/10/2026 10:14

What has this got to do with the NHS? If patients are being treated in hospital, they are not interested in your politics. They deserve compassionate care that is free of triggers and of any kind of bias, including racism and antisemitism.

The op brings up making posts opposing Netanyahu as one the the examples of senior NHS figures being anti-semetic. I'm saying I disagree.

Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 10:17

napody · 12/10/2026 09:32

You wanted people to wait and check what qualifications and extra info you'd add over the next dozen posts before voting on your OP?

It's not a bad discussion overall to be honest, but you just couldn't draw anything at all from the voting.

And if Palestinian flag badges have been banned for NHS staff following research, that's a positive action, surely? Also would have been good in your OP which implies the NHS isn't doing anything about it.

I didn't imply the NHS isn't doing anything about it.

I didn't comment in my first post one way or the other about what the NHS is/isn't doing about it.

The second post of the thread (if people made it that far) I said, "I know (or at least think it highly likely) that the vast majority of NHS employees are not racist in any way."

Post 3 on this thread I said the UK government and NHS England accepted all 36 recommendations of the independent review.

That shows the NHS took the review seriously and didn't just rush to deny charges of antisemitism.

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Bikenutz · 12/10/2026 10:14

Stompythedinosaur · 12/10/2026 10:07

I do not accept it is anti-Semitic to speak against Netanyahu. I believe he's a war criminal that's engaging in genocide.

That view has no more bearing on how I feel about Jewish people than my dislike of Hitler informs how I feel about Christians.

We cannot possibly have a situation where any country is permitted to do anything they like, no matter how morally reprehensible, and are immune from criticism. That criticism is made towards individuals and their actions, not their faith.

What has this got to do with the NHS? If patients are being treated in hospital, they are not interested in your politics. They deserve compassionate care that is free of triggers and of any kind of bias, including racism and antisemitism.

Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 10:11

RandomUserName96 · 12/10/2026 09:48

But its not alleged though is it 🙄

And anti Isreal/anti Zionism is not the same as antisemitism

Legally it is until the international court case makes a decision and then we can say it is or isn't legally classified as a genocide.

At the moment it's opinion.

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Stompythedinosaur · 12/10/2026 10:07

I do not accept it is anti-Semitic to speak against Netanyahu. I believe he's a war criminal that's engaging in genocide.

That view has no more bearing on how I feel about Jewish people than my dislike of Hitler informs how I feel about Christians.

We cannot possibly have a situation where any country is permitted to do anything they like, no matter how morally reprehensible, and are immune from criticism. That criticism is made towards individuals and their actions, not their faith.

lola243 · 12/10/2026 10:07

Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 09:29

It hasn’t been recognised by an international court & the case bought by South Africa won’t reach a verdict probably for several years. Until they do it is legally an alleged genocide.

Though this thread is not about that but about the NHS.

Only an alleged genocide! So don’t worry about the thousands of deaths of Palestinians! Continue as you are

Dollymylove · 12/10/2026 09:51

People in professional positions should keep their political views to themselves.
Is the hippocratic oath optional now?

MrsShawnHatosy · 12/10/2026 09:51

fizzywidget · 12/10/2026 09:34

How does supporting the cause of Palestinians equate to being prejudiced against Jewish people in the UK?

It does by definition in the eyes of some.

RandomUserName96 · 12/10/2026 09:48

Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 07:07

The alleged genocide is being discussed on multiple threads.

This one is about the fair treatment of Jewish patients in UK healthcare settings.

Don't you think all patients should feel safe in the NHS?

But its not alleged though is it 🙄

And anti Isreal/anti Zionism is not the same as antisemitism

Laurmolonlabe · 12/10/2026 09:47

Cartoonmouse · 12/10/2026 09:42

Are you suggesting that it's the media that are anti semetic in focusing their attention on violence involving the Jewish state rather than other incidents of violence? That its their fault for making people interested in Gaza over everything else?

Or is it rather that they know their audience. And what their audience would prefer they pay attention to.

The media always focuses on what they see as the better/ more provocative story, and it depends on what news is available any given day. Many people are worried about the violence of Israel, some of them will be journalists.

Bikenutz · 12/10/2026 09:45

Yes this.

Why do many Jews see no future in the UK?

I don’t want to speak for this poster, but I have heard marchers for Palestine say things like Israel shouldn’t exist.

Some Jews see Israel as the one place they know they can turn to if life becomes hostile elsewhere. Jews have been expelled, persecuted and massacred across Europe and the Middle East, culminating in the Holocaust.

As a result, when people say Israel should not exist, many Jews hear not just criticism of a government, but opposition to the existence of their only guaranteed refuge.

Coupled with rising antisemitism in recent years, this leaves some Jews questioning how secure their future in the UK really is. Whether or not others agree with that assessment, the concern is rooted in both historical experience and lived experience of antisemitism in the present-day.

Biscuitsforbreakfastt · 12/10/2026 09:45

Cartoonmouse · 12/10/2026 09:23

Try and focus on the topic in hand which is tbe treatment of Jews by NHS staff.

I’ll decide where my focus lies.

Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 09:44

napody · 12/10/2026 09:32

You wanted people to wait and check what qualifications and extra info you'd add over the next dozen posts before voting on your OP?

It's not a bad discussion overall to be honest, but you just couldn't draw anything at all from the voting.

And if Palestinian flag badges have been banned for NHS staff following research, that's a positive action, surely? Also would have been good in your OP which implies the NHS isn't doing anything about it.

Not the next dozen posts. I raised the Mann report in my first post and expanded on it by post 3 of this thread. Even just the title is about concerns re antisemitism in the NHS.

Are you not concerned about that?

If I agreed with a title but not the source I would say so. But still vote that I agree there are problems with antisemitism amongst NHS staff. Even the NHS themselves acknowledge that!

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knitnerd90 · 12/10/2026 09:44

Someone starts a thread about antisemitism and people immediately make it about Israeli crimes, while also saying anti Zionism isn't antisemitism. I can't imagine why we'd be sensitive about it.

(And for the record I recognise that while some people equate all anti-Zionism with antisemitism, I don't.)

the issue is that Jews in other countries get judged according to Israeli actions. Assumptions are made. It isn't always overt though it can be. I'm regularly asked if I'm a Zionist or what my opinions are, even though I'm not from Israel and have never lived there.

Cartoonmouse · 12/10/2026 09:42

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Are you suggesting that it's the media that are anti semetic in focusing their attention on violence involving the Jewish state rather than other incidents of violence? That its their fault for making people interested in Gaza over everything else?

Or is it rather that they know their audience. And what their audience would prefer they pay attention to.

Laurmolonlabe · 12/10/2026 09:39

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Cartoonmouse · 12/10/2026 09:36

RVectensian · 12/10/2026 09:32

I agree with the principle, but in what way are the NHS staff being racist towards the British Jews? I see your point that their demonstration of support towards Palestine makes them feel uncomfortable (I'm not a fan of political ideology being demonstrated on uniform anyway), but that isn't the same as the staff member acting in a discriminatory fashion.

Besides, being pro Palestine isn't the same as being anti-Jew surely?

"Pro Palestine". Even the language used is glib and polarising.

Clearly Jewish people feel vulnerable in the UK due to various attacks on Jewish buildings and a rise in anti semitism. Which means there's a huge rise in racism. Its happened since October 7th. Theres a clear causal link between Gaza and attacks on Jews in the UK. So wearing a badge is supporting the cause of the types of people who are attacking Jews.

fizzywidget · 12/10/2026 09:34

How does supporting the cause of Palestinians equate to being prejudiced against Jewish people in the UK?