AIBU - problems with antisemitism amongst NHS medical staff?

The International Association of Genocide Scholars has said that Israel's actions in Gaza meet the UN definition of genocide.

Perhaps you could explain why you disagree with their position on that?

Sorry, no deal. Get rid of pro-Palestine badges in the NHS and keep the poppy.

They are not equivalent at all.

It was the fact she said everything was good,
progressing well and just hiccups. As soon as she found out one parent was Jewish she completely switched and said baby was fitting and then insinuated I didn’t care about my baby when I pointed out she was just convinced it was hiccups.

Im certain she would have mentioned Tay sachs if that was her concern (I can assure you her only concern was causing me distress).

The International Association of Genocide Scholars has said that Israel's actions in Gaza meet the UN definition of genocide.

Perhaps you could explain why you disagree with their position on that?

Kindly I'm not sure if I'm just not following, but how is a HCP arranging additional tests in view of the slightly heigtened risk some with Jewish heritage could have prenatally an example for NHS racism?

Sorry, no deal. Get rid of pro-Palestine badges in the NHS and keep the poppy.

They are not equivalent at all.

Eh? They’re not entitled to freely air racist and bigoted views, make patients feel so uncomfortable they don’t eat, or feel too intimidated to seek treatment.

I don’t want to come across as dramatic but the more I read threads like this and a similar one last week the more I realise that I don’t see a future for myself as a British Jew here in the UK. The constant “it’s not anti semitism it’s anti Zionism” line is getting tired. All this attention on Gaza only stems from an obsession with the only Jewish state. There is no genocide happening and to be fair I don’t blame most on here for their views because if I were getting my news from the BBC or Sky I’d probably think the same. It’s just pathetic really how so many are so blind to the changing face of antisemitism.

The alleged genocide is being discussed on multiple threads.

This one is about the fair treatment of Jewish patients in UK healthcare settings.

Don't you think all patients should feel safe in the NHS?

You can't advocate for restricting staff based on the feelings of one group and then say another group being upset and distressed isn't the same as the distress Jewish people experience. I can tell you for certain I have family with trauma that find a poppy very intimidating.Either we ban things based on how patients may feel or we allow staff their freedom of expression provided all patients are treated with dignity and respect. As I said up thread, many healthcare workers are wearing badges in solidarity with the real physical threat and danger their colleagues in Palestine, including British medics, are facing.

When the person in question ONLY criticises Israel over and over and never shows a wider concern for other conflicts/suffering, then it’s a pretty safe bet that the person is consciously or otherwise antisemitic.

Do these healthcare workers also post about the suffering and atrocities in Sudan? The persecution of the Uigyurs by China? Are they posting death to Xi Jinping? Or Putin? Are they raising awareness of the persecution of Christians by Muslims in Nigeria?

Or is it just they have an obsession where there’s a Jew to blame?

There’s no place for racism in the NHS and all UK citizens have a right to be treated fairly and without prejudice. I’m surprised and extremely disappointed that anyone would think differently.

Not Jewish but husband is. 18 years ago pregnant with DS and have my last checkup.
mentioned baby was quite active, healthcare professional put me at ease, just hiccups.

DP then mentions he’s Jewish - her whole energy changed. Suddenly I needed an urgent scan as baby was fitting rather than hiccups.

she looked at me like I was an actual monster when I pointed out she had just told me hiccups.
she was fucking hideous and I would have complained at the time but was so upset.

Except some people.they do actually, as I already said. There are swathes of British peopl for whom the poppy is a complicated or distressing symbol..I'm not the one proposing banning symbols when staff otherwise treat patients with dignity and respect though but absolutely there are people who would prefer that their clinician wasn't wearing a poppy.
You and PP keep using words like "our" and "this country" which is further politicising the poppy. If you're going to argue to restrict NHS staff freedom of expression, fine but be consistent.

I agree with the principle, but in what way are the NHS staff being racist towards the British Jews? I see your point that their demonstration of support towards Palestine makes them feel uncomfortable (I'm not a fan of political ideology being demonstrated on uniform anyway), but that isn't the same as the staff member acting in a discriminatory fashion.

Besides, being pro Palestine isn't the same as being anti-Jew surely?

I commented on one part of the op that I have something to say about. I'm well aware that there is anti-semetism, racism, sexism etc in our society, I don't disagree. I just don't have a solution.

Why is it that you expect to be able to dictate and bully others into only saying what you want them to? Inferring people are antisemitic (which is what I think you're implying?) if they don't agree with a fixed narrow narrative doesn't seem reasonable.

If I was to put a lengthy post up saying several reasonable things and one wildly outrageous claim, of course people will respond to the outrageous bit.

Why are you picking me up on saying ‘our’ and ‘this country’ - what’s your problem with that? I’m referring to the UK, as the OP is about the NHS and so I refer to the sacrifice of UK service men and women. What on earth is wrong with that?

Ok, taking your assertion at face value, finding a poppy distressing is not remotely the same as feeling threatened against a background of ongoing actual real abuse and physical threat. We can’t ban everything anyone finds triggering.

Wearing a poppy to commemorate the dead is extremely important for some. It’s an act of remembrance and honour, not a political statement.

We can, however, stop intimidating Jewish people while they seek healthcare.

I can think of no other minority for whom people would openly quibble on this.

Except some people.they do actually, as I already said. There are swathes of British peopl for whom the poppy is a complicated or distressing symbol..I'm not the one proposing banning symbols when staff otherwise treat patients with dignity and respect though but absolutely there are people who would prefer that their clinician wasn't wearing a poppy.
You and PP keep using words like "our" and "this country" which is further politicising the poppy. If you're going to argue to restrict NHS staff freedom of expression, fine but be consistent.

Except some people.they do actually, as I already said. There are swathes of British peopl for whom the poppy is a complicated or distressing symbol..I'm not the one proposing banning symbols when staff otherwise treat patients with dignity and respect though but absolutely there are people who would prefer that their clinician wasn't wearing a poppy.
You and PP keep using words like "our" and "this country" which is further politicising the poppy. If you're going to argue to restrict NHS staff freedom of expression, fine but be consistent.