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AIBU - problems with antisemitism amongst NHS medical staff?

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Twiglets1 · 12/10/2026 06:32

The Campaign Against Antisemitism, a prominent UK watchdog group, has identified five healthcare professionals whose public statements it considers antisemitic or anti-Israel.

The five individuals, all current or former National Health Service employees, include midwife Fatimah Mohamied, who allegedly endorsed a post supporting Palestinian “resistance” on Oct. 7, 2023 by responding “Hell yeah!!!” to a post during the Hamas-led onslaught of October 7, 2023, that said: “Palestinians have a right to resist their occupation — we have a right to support them.”

Additionally, physician Dr. Abdelaal Ragheb Elfarra claimed Zionists control the media and the world; psychiatrist Dr. Ahmed Sewehli said regarding Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “you need to be dead”; and emergency physician Dr. Nadeem Crowe described Israel as a “terrorist octopus.” Occupational therapist Zaida Akhtar allegedly shared a video appearing to encourage violence against Netanyahu’s son and a “false flag” claim about the Bondi Beach attack in Australia last year.

The allegations concerning the medical professionals follow a review published in June by John Mann, the British government’s independent adviser on antisemitism, which found “routine ostracism” of Jewish staff and patients within the NHS.

Jewish community representatives have warned that antisemitism in healthcare can affect patients at moments of particular vulnerability.

Karen Newman, a vice president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, described that concern during parliamentary testimony on May 14. She spoke about Jewish patients hesitating to request kosher meals after seeing a Palestinian badge on a nurse’s uniform.

“That is not a moment when you feel good asking for kosher meals,” she said.

https://www.jns.org/news/world/medical-staff-antisemitism-flagged-in-uk

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Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 15:21

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:11

Well they sort of have as yould only be 20 now. I think you mean able to vote. If the voting age is 18 then anyone over 38 has voted.

Yes and the majority of the population is under that age which is why I said that. Some of us actually know or check things rather than stating random opinions.

Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 15:19

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:14

If they live in mainland Britain they will be used to the poppy and what it symbolises.

Some things transcend politics. Or used to. Like remembering our dead relatives.

You're being disingenuous to act like you care about patients feelings or distress but repeatedly dismiss the feelings of patients you happen to disagree with, just because the complicated feelings they have towards their dead relatives, aren't shared by you.

Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 15:17

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:07

The ICJ.

To be clear, do you consider the ICJ opinion of the highest importance? If so, What's your opinion on them issuing measures to Israel to prevent genocide while they investigate and their ruling that Israeli settlements are illegal under international always and that Israel must end it's illegal occupation. Do you agree that Israel are in breach of the ICJ ruling, considering you only want their opinion of it's a genocide ?

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:14

Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 15:10

Ah so we should ban political items that you personal consider to be political. That's not opening a can of worms at all! Does it occur to you northern Irish Britain's live in the rest of Britain too?

If they live in mainland Britain they will be used to the poppy and what it symbolises.

Some things transcend politics. Or used to. Like remembering our dead relatives.

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:11

Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 15:09

The majority of the Palestinians population haven't had an election within their lifetimes. The last election was in 2006..this is either unintentional or intentional misinformation you've posted.

Well they sort of have as yould only be 20 now. I think you mean able to vote. If the voting age is 18 then anyone over 38 has voted.

Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 15:10

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:04

I agree with banning political symbols. I disagree that a red poppy is a political symbol (apart from in N Ireland apparently. I have never been so cannot comment on how patients feel about NHS workers wearing poppies).

Ah so we should ban political items that you personal consider to be political. That's not opening a can of worms at all! Does it occur to you northern Irish Britain's live in the rest of Britain too?

itsadlibitum · 13/10/2026 15:10

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:06

The context of that comment by Boris Johnson was that he was criticising France and supporting the right of Muslim women to wear the burqua or whatever other religious clothing they wished.

Oh, totally ok then 🙄

Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 15:09

Millerner · 13/10/2026 10:19

Of course. How did Hamas come to power? The Palestinians voted for them. Just like Germans voted for the Nazis. They didn’t gain power accidentally, but in elections which were deemed free and fair.

The majority of the Palestinians population haven't had an election within their lifetimes. The last election was in 2006..this is either unintentional or intentional misinformation you've posted.

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:07

itsadlibitum · 13/10/2026 11:41

Ok so who do you feel is qualified to make the determination? Or is anyone who concludes it is genocide, as lots of bodies have, by default antisemitic just for reaching that conclusion?

The ICJ.

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:06

itsadlibitum · 13/10/2026 13:14

It’s pretty well documented that Muslims face a great deal of prejudice and discrimination in the UK. It’s not too long ago that our own then foreign minister called them letter boxes - that’s how mainstream Islamophobia is. Not that it’s a competition though.

The context of that comment by Boris Johnson was that he was criticising France and supporting the right of Muslim women to wear the burqua or whatever other religious clothing they wished.

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:04

Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 15:02

You disagree with banning political expression of NHS staff now?

I agree with banning political symbols. I disagree that a red poppy is a political symbol (apart from in N Ireland apparently. I have never been so cannot comment on how patients feel about NHS workers wearing poppies).

Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 15:02

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:01

Fine. I disagree.

You disagree with banning political expression of NHS staff now?

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 15:01

Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 14:58

Perhaps you aren't realising that @Boolabus and I aren't arguing against staff wearing the poppy, we're just pointing out your blindspot in banning "political items" .

Fine. I disagree.

Dontmakemethinkofanotherbloodyusername · 13/10/2026 14:58

Cartoonmouse · 12/10/2026 20:29

Because that is the subject of the thread.

And the fact you are arguing against wearing a poppy is just sad example of how society is degenerating in the UK. In my opinion only of course. It explains lot of how this country is changing for the worse.

Perhaps you aren't realising that @Boolabus and I aren't arguing against staff wearing the poppy, we're just pointing out your blindspot in banning "political items" .

itsadlibitum · 13/10/2026 13:14

5MinuteArgument · 13/10/2026 12:59

Yes, and the point is that British Jews are having to organise their own security rotas around schools and synagogues because they have been attacked and killed.

I used to go on pro-Palestine marches years ago. But I wouldn't go on them now. Marches and demonstrations of support for Palestine are happening now within the context of growing violence towards Jews, actual violence not just online stuff.

Jews are thinking about leaving the UK and I wouldn't be surprised if in 5 or 10 years time there are fewer Jews here. Have any Muslims talked about leaving? No, their numbers are expanding.

It’s pretty well documented that Muslims face a great deal of prejudice and discrimination in the UK. It’s not too long ago that our own then foreign minister called them letter boxes - that’s how mainstream Islamophobia is. Not that it’s a competition though.

SingingShrews · 13/10/2026 13:10

5MinuteArgument · 13/10/2026 12:59

Yes, and the point is that British Jews are having to organise their own security rotas around schools and synagogues because they have been attacked and killed.

I used to go on pro-Palestine marches years ago. But I wouldn't go on them now. Marches and demonstrations of support for Palestine are happening now within the context of growing violence towards Jews, actual violence not just online stuff.

Jews are thinking about leaving the UK and I wouldn't be surprised if in 5 or 10 years time there are fewer Jews here. Have any Muslims talked about leaving? No, their numbers are expanding.

Have any Muslims talked about leaving? No, their numbers are expanding.

https://tellmamauk.org/tell-mamas-survey-finds-that-1-in-3-british-muslims-are-considering-leaving-the-u-k/

5MinuteArgument · 13/10/2026 12:59

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Yes, and the point is that British Jews are having to organise their own security rotas around schools and synagogues because they have been attacked and killed.

I used to go on pro-Palestine marches years ago. But I wouldn't go on them now. Marches and demonstrations of support for Palestine are happening now within the context of growing violence towards Jews, actual violence not just online stuff.

Jews are thinking about leaving the UK and I wouldn't be surprised if in 5 or 10 years time there are fewer Jews here. Have any Muslims talked about leaving? No, their numbers are expanding.

KatiePricesKnickers · 13/10/2026 11:50

@KindlySurfiingPlatypus ”Do you also believe that anyone who displays a Ukraine flag wishes death to all Russians, even the ones who are just getting along with their farming along the banks of the Volga river?”

That’s a false comparison. Shame on you.

KatiePricesKnickers · 13/10/2026 11:47

itsadlibitum · 13/10/2026 11:41

Ok so who do you feel is qualified to make the determination? Or is anyone who concludes it is genocide, as lots of bodies have, by default antisemitic just for reaching that conclusion?

The international courts.
In time that verdict will come.

KatiePricesKnickers · 13/10/2026 11:47

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · 13/10/2026 09:51

Wearing a Palestine badge is not a statement of support of Hamas don't be ridiculous.

There are approximately 2 million Palestinians who hold israel citizenship and about 5.5 million Palestinians who live in the occupied territories. Hamas is a terrorist organisation comprising about 20,000 active fighters and approx 100,000 wider supporters. A Palestinian flag is much more likely to indicate support of the 7.5 million ordinary and not-particulatly-more-violent-and-dangerous-than-anyone-else Palestinians, who mostly just want to live in peace and don't wish death on anyone, rather than the 120,000 terrorists. Believing otherwise is a paranoid delusion that is indicative of needing psychiatric support.

If the average Palestinian is so benevolent, why don’t any of their Muslim neighbors want them anywhere nearby?

itsadlibitum · 13/10/2026 11:41

KatiePricesKnickers · 13/10/2026 07:05

So that’s just the UN’s opinion.
The UN who are infiltrated by antisemitism and extremists.

That is not enough for anyone with half a brain and eyes in their head.

Ok so who do you feel is qualified to make the determination? Or is anyone who concludes it is genocide, as lots of bodies have, by default antisemitic just for reaching that conclusion?

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 11:08

@KindlySurfiingPlatypus

Of course its not racisim. It doesnt matter who is wearing it. Its what it symbolises. Im not Jewish. I'm just an ordinary person who sees those marches and the aggresion and screaming of the marchers. And the fear that Jews are experiencing. Its terrible. And the marchers seem to care more about shoving their views about a conflict happening thousands of miles away, one of many, than the feeling security of Jewish people in the UK. I think its wrong.

Millerner · 13/10/2026 10:19

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Of course. How did Hamas come to power? The Palestinians voted for them. Just like Germans voted for the Nazis. They didn’t gain power accidentally, but in elections which were deemed free and fair.

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · 13/10/2026 10:14

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That is definitely racism there.
If you aren't even prepared to acknowledge the existence of a people who don't particularly hate you but just want to live their ordinary life then there is no hope.
Do you also believe that anyone who displays a Ukraine flag wishes death to all Russians, even the ones who are just getting along with their farming along the banks of the Volga river?

Cartoonmouse · 13/10/2026 09:55

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