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Scouts weekend trip- would you expect updates/a few photos?

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icedout · Today 00:38

If your child has gone on an overnight trip with scouts, is it unreasonable to expect a few group photos or a quick update from the leaders? It’s DS first trip away and he was a little apprehensive camping for the first time. We’ve not received a single photo or update on the group chat. I messaged privately & got a very general reply with an implied don’t bother me again so I’m left feeling uneasy. It’s cubs scouts and ds is age 8.

I am being unreasonable - parents don’t need to be updated at all
YANBU - parents should be sent a group pic/update daily.

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GoldenGirl85 · Today 04:06

No, I would expect updates from the leaders particularly with the reputation that the Scouts have regarding children’s safety. Ignore the comments saying you are being unreasonable. In this day and age photo updates are necessary and expected.

Why on earth are photo updates necessary. In fact sharing photos of children can be a huge problem given how imagery can be used now.
the leaders will have done a risk assessment that either they will have shared with parents or parents can ask for.
the whole point of camps away is to build independence.
if you need photo documentation organise your own group camps.

ownedbymydogs · Today 05:00

GoldenGirl85 · Today 04:06

No, I would expect updates from the leaders particularly with the reputation that the Scouts have regarding children’s safety. Ignore the comments saying you are being unreasonable. In this day and age photo updates are necessary and expected.

YOU, and parents like you, are the reason scouts, guides etc are finding it harder and harder to find volunteers.

The entitlement!

TheLemonLemur · Today 04:50

It varies greatly by leaders/volunteers. When my son was in cubs any camp they went on we would receive lots of pics and updates more than parents expected tbh

iwishtoo · Today 04:33

No, I'd not expect that. Instead I'd be thankful that the leaders are volunteering and giving up their precious weekend (and time before and after it for the organisation and tidy away) for the benefit of my child.

summertree1 · Today 04:29

The leaders are managing a large group of kids and all that entails- the last thing they need is to be on their phones messaging anxious parents. They are volunteers, you should be grateful not complaining.

HoraceCope · Today 04:27

far better not, the point of scouts is this.

LemonPenguin · Today 04:25

We’ve never had photos when my daughter has been on cub camps. I think we’re so used to constant contact and reassurance these days that it feels strange- but there’s no need for it really- they will contact you if there’s anything wrong, otherwise assume all is well!

GoldenGirl85 · Today 04:06

No, I would expect updates from the leaders particularly with the reputation that the Scouts have regarding children’s safety. Ignore the comments saying you are being unreasonable. In this day and age photo updates are necessary and expected.

AgnesMcDoo · Today 04:01

Scout leader here.

we used to do this but a combination of some kids not having photo permission and unrealistic demands from parents means that we stopped it

Gateappreciation · Today 02:27

No, I wouldn’t expect updates.

PollyBell · Today 02:22

No we expected no updates nice to see photos afterwards if any

Spartak · Today 01:12

I'm a Guider. We don't have photo sharing permission for all our girls, and it's sometimes easier not to post any at all rather than repeatedly asking a couple of kids to move.

I will sometimes send a late update after the kids have gone to bed letting parents know what we've been up to, but that will depend on whether I have signal or whether I'm sorting out vomiting Veronica who ate too many marshmallows. Or if I'm too knackered to think.

If it's really important to you to see what your son gets up to on cub camp, then volunteer to help. Otherwise, leave those that are volunteering to do it their way.

Freshrain · Today 01:03

We've been involved in taking Scouts and Guides abroad for just over a week.
Thought it would be nice to post a few photos in a closed group, to give a 'feel' of what had been done that day.
Next thing, parents are messaging complaining they haven't seen a photo of their particular young person Hmm

Not, 'Thank you for using your annual leave to take my child away' or 'Thankyou for the hours upon hours, over months you have put in to planning this trip for them' , just complaints that their little Tarquin didn't appear on the 5 or 6 photos that were shared to give a flavour of activities.

After that, on the consequent trips, no photos have been posted.

icedout · Today 00:55

wandawaves · Today 00:50

For one night?
No, you need to get a grip.

Let the leaders spend their time on actually being leaders.
Have you ever been a parent helper with Scouts? It's chaos. Then imagine adding into that chaos all the logistics of feeding them (constantly), getting them to sleep, not losing them in an outdoors environment, stopping them getting into mischief, organising multiple activities, making sure no one is homesick, making sure they have all their belongings, making sure they're safe around the fire/spiders/snakes (if applicable)... and then getting texts off anxious mummies demanding photo evidence of their little angels.

You saw your kid yesterday, you'll see him tomorrow. He can update you then.

weekend = 2 nights
Yes, I regularly help at the meetings.

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Winewolfhywls · Today 00:54

In my experience lots of camps are in areas with really rubbish reception and no internet!

icedout · Today 00:52

TrixieFatell · Today 00:42

I would have expected a brief quick update that everyone had a great day and now it's off to bed sort of thing.

Yes, this is what I was expecting. A friend’s kid did it with the same group 2 years ago and they had updates but we’ve just realised they were all from a parent who had volunteered to help so not the leaders themselves.

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wandawaves · Today 00:50

For one night?
No, you need to get a grip.

Let the leaders spend their time on actually being leaders.
Have you ever been a parent helper with Scouts? It's chaos. Then imagine adding into that chaos all the logistics of feeding them (constantly), getting them to sleep, not losing them in an outdoors environment, stopping them getting into mischief, organising multiple activities, making sure no one is homesick, making sure they have all their belongings, making sure they're safe around the fire/spiders/snakes (if applicable)... and then getting texts off anxious mummies demanding photo evidence of their little angels.

You saw your kid yesterday, you'll see him tomorrow. He can update you then.

maudelovesharold · Today 00:47

For a weekend trip, I wouldn’t expect anything, no. But then I grew up in the days before constant communication at every turn became obligatory! I imagine they’ll be too busy organising and supervising activities.

TrixieFatell · Today 00:42

I would have expected a brief quick update that everyone had a great day and now it's off to bed sort of thing.

Besidemyselfwithworry · Today 00:41

My son has just been with beavers and we had a special camp wattsapp and it was updated quite regularly I guess tho it’s down to the leaders

Ace56 · Today 00:41

YABU. The leaders won’t have time to be texting the parents or worrying about taking photos which include every child. You would hear from them if something’s wrong - otherwise just assume it’s all fine. DS is probably having a great time.

Time to cut those apron strings!

Icecreamisthebest · Today 00:40

No I wouldn’t expect any updates. Scout leaders are volunteers and they can organise the trip however they choose. If I want it to be a certain way then I need to step up and become a scout leader and do it myself.