To not understand why some Argentinians seem to want the Falkland Islands so much?

The colonists living in Argentina aren’t indigenous to it either. Send them back to Spain and Italy.

The Falklands were uninhabited. Ireland was habited.

”Malvinas”. And saying that in Spanish is funny.

I think the left and right are pretty united on the Falklands? I was watching Novara media and it is noticeable how "jingoistic" (in a good way) Ash Sarkar gets on the subject of Argentinian football and the Falklands. It helps probably that the Argentinian government who started the Falklands war were extremely right wing and that subsequent Argentinian politicians who have made a big deal out of it also come from the right. So not natural allies of the UK left.

Plus the only arguments Argentina has for the Falklands tend to be ones not associated with left wing thought (proximity, might is right, we called dibs first). Whereas the argument in favour of them being British/not Argentinian involves self determination which is popular across the UK political spectrum. I have seen some Argentinian propaganda trying to pull the "Argentina as a victim of colonialism re the Falklands" but that has never gained much traction as it doesn't fit well with Argentina's own history or the way it talks about itself now.

This is good to know. Now I remember her posts on the Piddington thread…

It's a strategic base into the south Atlantic .

The amount of people who don’t seem to realise that Argentina is itself a settler state, a nation of colonisers is baffling to me. They speak SPANISH for god’s sake!

Ironically Las Malvinas comes from the French naming the islands after their own Saint Malo Island. Islands themselves named after the Welsh explorer St Malo. So even the "alternative" name is neither Argentinian or even Spanish (from whom Argentina base their own claim). And named after a British man.

ETA: it's a Spanish derivation of the French name of course. But it's still funny that calling it Las Malvinos is supposed to be a massive burn.

Re Ash Sarkar political area of people, I think Argentinian football having such an obvious racism problem makes a difference too.

I’m not really talking about the etymology. But how funny it is that people position Britain as the colonising entity here while fiercely referring to the territory by its Argentinian name where they speak Spanish. Which is not a language native to the Americas…

Well yes, that as well. And the fact that Millie** himself is if Italian and Croation stock. I don't think it's just about the language either. There was also the fact that the removal of the native population was much more extensive in Argentina than in other parts of South America (complicated by the fact people downplayed any mestizo heritage they might have) and of course later on a very open attempt to decrease the black population. There are still lots of people with indigenous heritage but Argentina's whole idea of itself is that it is white/European. To do that and then cry colonialism isnt very convincing.

The name thing is just ironic to me which is why I mentioned it.

**Autocorrect but it's funny so I'm leaving it.

If the isle of wight was 300 miles from the british coastline, it had never been populated by anyone before the first settlers arrived from Brazil over 250 years ago and the current population which comprised mostly of their descendants wanted to remain part of brazil?

I'd be fine with it.

Why? Wouldn't you be?

People assume the Falklands Islands were inhabited and conquered by the British like pretty much the rest of the Empire. So they ignorantly state they should be ‘given back’ when they were never taken from Argentina in the first place.

Fuel. The reason for the majority of barbaric wars and sneaky takeovers. “We see you Greenland” praying that you are not another fuel pawn.
The Ukrainians, Americans and Israel are deliberately knocking out power plants for a reason.
He didn’t care about the people of Venezuela, no more than he cares for Cuba, he wanted the fuel,
Trump is a foolish troublemaker who comes across as thick as mince. Without his stepping stone of birth wealth he’d be sweeping the street.
His comments on Ireland reuniting were badly thought out, disruptive and stupid.
Does he really think that it wouldn’t cause civil unrest, bloodshed, murders and every home and bus burned in the North of Ireland by a settlers, who feel as entitled to the land than the Irish. It is an extremely delicate situation that should not be taken lightly.
No one is ignorant about the reactions when things go wrong in the north of Ireland, homes burn, people flee. Maybe Trump should move in and see how simple the process is Not.

Oil

And Welsh 😀

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As a 7th generation local, this is interesting reading.
Yes we are British but we are Falkland Islanders. Big difference. We are our own country and want to remain so.

Are these areas big enough to go it alone, and likewise do they want to?

I think you will find they were British before Argentina was a country. Plus every one who lives there stand fast 3 Argies voted to be British and I’m not a bot nor do I wave a flag or vote reform but happy with the shagging.

If the Islands were an independent country, would people still say they should be "given back" to Argentina?

Mexico has a better claim to take over California or TX ;
Austria has a better claim to take over Croatia;
Lithuania has a better claim to take over Ukraine;
Guatemala has a better claim to take over southern Belize;
Syria has a better claim to take over most of Israel;
China has a better claim to take over northern Vietnam;
etc.

Sorry wrong group 😂

Good luck @MixedBananas !