Living next to asylum seeker HMO, ask me anything

Not really - merely spin. Numbers soared under the Labour government and remain far higher than in 2023. Essentially, the government is now trying to fix a problem they created.

Ah, the usual virtual signalling from the average middle - so rife on MN and so predictable.

How many men granted asylum for being gay later apply to bring their wife and kids? That would be an interesting freedom of information statistic.

I've worked with a lot of asylum seekers. Never yet come across one that has provided these reasons. In my role I see the record of information that is given at the initial interview, so I'm not just basing it on their word either.

Germany deports to Afghanistan.

Look carefully at that information. It does not show 39,000 asylum seekers leaving/removed. See the explanation at the bottom that asylum seekers will be among those numbers.

17,000 were refused entry to the country. Perhaps a passport, visa or criminal issue. Many voluntary returns will be people whose visa has expired (student, work, holiday etc). This data doesn’t tell us how many people seeking asylum have been removed. We do know for the small boat asylum seekers it is around 4% as detailed in the post above.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-march-2026/how-many-people-are-returned-from-the-uk

6.1 Returns of small boat arrivals
……..A total of 8,427 people who arrived on a small boat between 2018 and the YE March 2026 have been returned from the UK…….

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A quick add up of arrivals (reducing the number to 10k for 2026 as the above talks about to March 2026 rather than September) comes to 202,633 small boat arrivals.

8,427 returns out of 202,633 arrivals (8,427/202,633 x 100) =4.159 %

Older versions of the government report actually stated the 4%. It has been removed but not much has changed.

The Government does not deport to Afghanistan or Sudan (it also says that on their website) so those nationalities are going nowhere. Maybe doing the migrant hokey kokey with in, out, in out, one in, one out with France deal.

But nevertheless more asylum seekers being returned than last year (39,000). So an improving picture.

Can you provide a link to the statistics that support this, many thanks

The whistleblower was quite specific about what is going on, with claimants using the same script and BS story, such as Iraqis pretending they'd been in a relationship with a prime minister's daughter, Pakistanis all claiming they'd been in a gay relationship with the same man, Bangladeshis claiming to be dissidents of a group they know nothing about.

You can read a good thread on X by this ex-detective: (2) Donna-Louise on X: "He also said that “hundreds” of claims from Pakistanis were based on the assertion that they were in fear of their lives in their home country because of their gay relationship with the same man who had provided letters supporting their claims." / X

No worries, sorry about your migraine!

So that 1% is a claim from an anonymous whistleblower. . The Times article is behind a paywall where I cannot read it, so I cannot judge the claim. I can see that it contrasts sharply with official HO statistics.

(Everyone reading needs to be aware that those arriving on the boats must apply for asylum in the usual way. Currently something under half of applications for asylum are being granted.)

I am not aware of anyone who thinks the boats are a good idea. People smuggling is abhorrent. I think everyone would like to see the boats disbanded.

This originates from a recent piece in the Times from a Home Office whistleblower. https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/one-in-100-asylum-claims-are-real-whistleblower-claims-d8768mjnx

Sorry, got a migraine and misread your post. I've posted again with the 1% statistic. It originates from the House of Commons library, from a briefing on small boat crossings. Google 'how many small boat migrants have been returned since 2018' and it will come up in the AI overview with links.

I am comfortable with the level of charitable support DH and I provide, thanks very much. I would show the same level of welcome to asylum seekers as to anyone else in my ‘naice’ village, and stand up for them in the event of trouble.

One cannot be all things to all people.

The 1% is a statistic I have not seen before, and cannot find now. Where is it from?

Only 4-5% of small boat migrants have been returned since 2018. And only an estimated 1% of them are genuine refugees.

You do know that you can choose to house asylum seekers in your own home? If you believe there should be more in your area, why aren't you doing more to faciltate that?

This doesn't show data on the number of who have subsequently returned via all possible routes. We've already seen the 'one in, one out' policy has been a resounding failure.

Hopefully properly dispersing asylum housing will help a lot. I don’t think it should all be in middle class areas but I think a fair portion of it should be. Also a fair portion should be in upper class areas - the issue is for the whole of society. Then let the consequences play out.

My hope is that we will find a way to come to a humane but not stupid conclusion.

Great, so the pull factors remain, the racket continues, the poorest are affected the most. If only the government could get people to shut up about it, everything would be fine and dandy.

The reality is that they aren’t deported, though. There is right of appeal, which is a more careful, nonpolitical judicial process with a good success rate, and there are other complications and inconsistencies.

Perhaps HMG should work out and publicise a coherent policy on deportations consistent with the UN Convention on Human Rights. It is not clear what that policy would be.

Denying basic healthcare to anyone on these shores is not only inhumane, it is an own goal when it comes to containing infectious disease.

Yes, I think middle class neighbourhoods should house more than 'a few' asylum seekers. I think they should accommodate them all. Let's put all the HMOs, hotels and barracks for asylum seekers in nice, safe middle class neighbourhoods.

That would change the narrative so fast, our heads would spin. The open borders / refugees welcome lobby would largely cease to exist and then we could shut down this racket once and for all.

An improving picture.

That's actually a pretty generous package. And the UK grants LTR at double the rate of France, so most of the young males that rock up on our shores will be granted LTR, especially once they've gone through appeals with activist lawyers. So then they're classed as refugees, able to bring their families over which gives them priority for social housing and the ability to claim the full range of benefits.

In the unlikely event that their claim is disallowed they won't get deported and can easily slip into the grey economy.

The pull factors for any young male to break into soft touch UK are enormous.