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Living next to asylum seeker HMO, ask me anything

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JapanesePotWeed · 24/09/2026 20:28

As the title says. I live in a Victorian mid-terrace, wall-to-wall, garden-to-garden with an asylum seeker dispersal HMO. They were moved in nearly two years ago, replacing a multi-generation family that were living there before.
There is another HMO directly opposite my house, where asylum seekers get rooms once they are approved to remain but don't have an income to support themselves.

Not AIBU but more like AMA. I'm wondering what people would ask me if they really could ask anything. Does anyone actually want to know what it is like? I hear a lot of political point scoring in the media regarding this topic but no one actually talks to people like me!

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Pastillefruit · 25/09/2026 03:12

This is such a fascinating insight into the realities of immigration. Thanks for sharing your experiences op. From your description of when you first lived there, a supportive working class community of families with a school and a church, it sounds like you’ve been there many years. Do you have family of your own who support you in dealing with this? Can you get help with making your loft secure and can you ever get away for a few days respite with relatives? The picture I get is that you’re quite alone in this situation, which feels desolate. I hope you can pursue the idea of the council buying your house, it seems like the most realistic and stress free option. Providing you get a realistic price of course, which allows you to find another home where you can live relatively peacefully. What a sad state the country is in. Where would you go if you could live anywhere?

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 02:56

Ilmiocompleanno · 25/09/2026 01:06

Re none of them mentioning war, it is worth remembering that in a country that is not at war, a person can be at very real risk of being murdered by government forces.

I can't say that ending up in my street has lessened anyone's chances of getting murdered! Probably not by the government though 😅
I asked my local Police Officer what chances there are of NOT becoming a victim of crime here. His answer was ...0%
On a different occasion I asked the same question to a more senior Officer. His answer was the same. 0%.

Is it as bad in Eritrea and Germany? Do they all get 100% victimised? 😳

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Mirsine · 25/09/2026 02:35

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 02:32

I don't have neighbours - it's terrace, after terrace of some kind of transient tenants.
In fact, one of the short term tenants, who was staying in a house for contractors came up to me and said it looks like the world has ended and I'm the last human left amongst zombies!

I'm making a list and at the moment I'm up to 102 houses being some sort of house share out of 129 properties. 5 owner-occupiers. 1 family Council house. Still have to establish the rest.
Once I have the full ugly picture, I'll try to make some noise about it, what with the Council elections coming up...

Christ, it sounds very dystopian. (If that’s the right word?)

harveythehorse · 25/09/2026 02:35

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 02:32

A side note - we have always had Labour and Lib Dem (current) Councils. A local Lib Dem Councillor said in a recent meeting that if anything, cities need MORE HMOs and he thinks that Victorian terraces are unsuited for family living anyway so it is only right to have no families in them.
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No words

Shocking. As is your statistic covering the number of properties that have been converted from family homes to HMOs

I'll bet that Lib Dem councillor and his family don't live in the streets which are all filled with refugee men. Awful, awful.

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 02:32

A side note - we have always had Labour and Lib Dem (current) Councils. A local Lib Dem Councillor said in a recent meeting that if anything, cities need MORE HMOs and he thinks that Victorian terraces are unsuited for family living anyway so it is only right to have no families in them.
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JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 02:32

Mirsine · 25/09/2026 02:08

Have you or your neighbours ever raised the issues with your local MP? If so, how did they respond?

I don't have neighbours - it's terrace, after terrace of some kind of transient tenants.
In fact, one of the short term tenants, who was staying in a house for contractors came up to me and said it looks like the world has ended and I'm the last human left amongst zombies!

I'm making a list and at the moment I'm up to 102 houses being some sort of house share out of 129 properties. 5 owner-occupiers. 1 family Council house. Still have to establish the rest.
Once I have the full ugly picture, I'll try to make some noise about it, what with the Council elections coming up...

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Mirsine · 25/09/2026 02:08

Have you or your neighbours ever raised the issues with your local MP? If so, how did they respond?

BitOfAStubbornCow · 25/09/2026 01:49

NotPerfectlyAdverage · 24/09/2026 22:28

Terrace houses being turned into HMOs has destroyed my home town within a few short years. Every two / three terrace gets snapped up and turned into a minium 5 bed HMO. Changes everything about the town. The only good news OP that if you sold up, you have a developer bidding war

Same happening where I live, I have a similar situation to op with two houses on my terraced street housing 5/6 men.

The back alley outside my home has been taken over and treat like an extension of the house, they set up plastic sofas and chairs, bbq, caravan out there at the moment too.
Same nocturnal pattern OP mentions, it’s happening now as I speak. Every night and the antisocial ones will just laugh in your face if you ask them to keep the noise down.

They dump their rubbish in the bushes at the end of the street or in other peoples back yards.

I’ve had men staring in windows several times, face pressed against the glass type of staringC I keep my curtains and blinds closed all day now, most of the street do.

Reports to council etc have done nothing. Police dont care, and it very much does feel like communities like mine have been pushed under the bus, not just by people who think everyone is lying about it, but also by the local thugs with their own domestic violence convictions who treat Tommy Robinson like some kid of god. Both types of men have me feeling scared and vulnerable, it’s just I get don’t get called racist when I say I’m scared of the ex convicts or the young lads with knives on bikes with balaclavas.

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:41

Namechangerage · 25/09/2026 01:26

(No wonder we can’t sleep)

OMG,yes. It is just like my street. Can't even get the police to come out in 999 situations - they hear the street name and just glaze over. And it used to be a nice street with families, a chapel and a small primary school!

On the positive side - if you want to do anything bad, you can have your fill because NO ONE would complain. Could blast music all night, deal and do drugs, dump your white goods in the street, buy an XL Bully, go out stark naked, climb all the fences in the gardens, remove your front door, can have a disposable BBQ in July and break hose pipe bans - NO ONE will notice or judge or Mumsnet report anything!
Can't beat them - join them! That's my option C on the list 😂

Handhold.

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harveythehorse · 25/09/2026 01:35

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:23

I'm in the North East. Isn't it awful though that things have been allowed to get that bad, that the Council have to buy a resident's home to allow them to escape?

I have been toying with an idea to hand my house over to asylum seeker contract - it still could be a family home, housing a refugee family. I'd have to rent elsewhere. But then I become a landlord with it's own complications - tax, etc.

It's absolutely dreadful. Dreadful that swathes of family homes are creating areas which are frightening for women to live in alone. The fact the council are willing to buy it from you says it all - I've never heard of that so I would grab that opportunity and make sure they pay market value before the HMO started accepting refugees. Completely accept that becoming a landlord is tricky - we have a number of properties we rent out and it's becoming more and more complex. Best of luck x

Namechangerage · 25/09/2026 01:26

(No wonder we can’t sleep)

Namechangerage · 25/09/2026 01:25

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:15

@nearlylovemyusername

Politics...Not really. More so I've developed distrust and acute dislike towards authorities. I want to ignore the lot of them and campaign for much tighter oversight of the shared housing market, larger and regularly imposed fines for bad landlords who run houses in poor condition, more police presence on streets like mine... But I also think it's too late and no one will be able to fix this mess. There is a certain tipping point when the number of HMOs and the decline in building conditions makes recovery impossible. Like the clearance of slums in the 20th Century. We are heading that way. Many inner-city terraced streets won't come back from this. I'm sad, it used to be beautiful here 😢

I feel for you OP.

4 or 5 HMOs on my terraced street - opposite and a few doors up (all appeared within last 5 years since I moved here) a couple of which are leased to the council to people like ex offenders, rough sleepers, mental health, and asylum seekers - all men aged 20-50 by the look of them. I was threatened by one resident that he would kill me and my kids and burn our house down :( witnessed a violent attack outside my house. Blood stain still on pavement. Hear drug deals daily, see people wandering up and down trying to get drugs, people pissing in street. People watching us as we sit in garden. Fly tipping and rubbish outside the houses, nobody cares. The loft thing is terrifying and I need to check now!

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:23

harveythehorse · 25/09/2026 01:08

Is your house big enough to be turned into an HMO? Could you do the same and then use the rent money to finance a move . . . unless the council are prepared to buy it from you.

I'm sorry you're going through this - it sounds truly frightening. What part of the country are you in (obviously roughly)?

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I'm in the North East. Isn't it awful though that things have been allowed to get that bad, that the Council have to buy a resident's home to allow them to escape?

I have been toying with an idea to hand my house over to asylum seeker contract - it still could be a family home, housing a refugee family. I'd have to rent elsewhere. But then I become a landlord with it's own complications - tax, etc.

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JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:15

Anonyanonay · 24/09/2026 23:31

How has this experience affected your political views, OP?

@nearlylovemyusername

Politics...Not really. More so I've developed distrust and acute dislike towards authorities. I want to ignore the lot of them and campaign for much tighter oversight of the shared housing market, larger and regularly imposed fines for bad landlords who run houses in poor condition, more police presence on streets like mine... But I also think it's too late and no one will be able to fix this mess. There is a certain tipping point when the number of HMOs and the decline in building conditions makes recovery impossible. Like the clearance of slums in the 20th Century. We are heading that way. Many inner-city terraced streets won't come back from this. I'm sad, it used to be beautiful here 😢

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harveythehorse · 25/09/2026 01:08

Is your house big enough to be turned into an HMO? Could you do the same and then use the rent money to finance a move . . . unless the council are prepared to buy it from you.

I'm sorry you're going through this - it sounds truly frightening. What part of the country are you in (obviously roughly)?

Lucyslocket · 25/09/2026 01:06

Wantmoredogsbutcant · 24/09/2026 21:29

What does this mean, they can get in?

Some older terraced properties have a communal roof space. That means you can get from one end of the terrace to the other by walking through the roof space.
It's also possible to enter other properties via the roof hatches if they aren't secured from below.

Ilmiocompleanno · 25/09/2026 01:06

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 00:11

They mostly complain about England to be fair! 😅 I don't blame them though, this street is a hell hole. Prostitutes on hard drugs proposition to them and they tell me how awful that is!

Usually they have quite nice things to say about their countries. About food and their mums. No one has ever mentioned war. One told me that his mum is from Syria, dad is Kurdish and that they are still in Kurdistan. But there are no jobs and he can't have a family with no job. I never pry into the asylum part and I think that is why they trust me. I pretend it doesn't exist.

Re none of them mentioning war, it is worth remembering that in a country that is not at war, a person can be at very real risk of being murdered by government forces.

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:00

poetryandwine · 25/09/2026 00:26

Haha.

Seriously, count me as another worried about your loft access. I wish you would raise this with your local authority.

You're right, I could try the council. I will! The fire regs place extra demands on HMOs, so maybe they could identify a fire risk and make the contractor fix it from the profits they make!

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JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 00:56

@EmeraldRoulette
By the way, the loft access is a fire safety issue as well - I’m surprised it’s not been asked about on your insurance.

So.My house cannot be insured anymore! My long term policy came for renewal and the insurer declined to insure my house citing "change of circumstances and/or surroundings such as increase of crime in the vicinity".
I haven't claimed on my insurance ever...
I have asylum HMO on one side, homeless HMO for addicts on the other. And it is ME left having to pay for fences, loft walls, and insurance premiums I can't afford, if can even find somebody prepared to insure!

@Julynian you asked about selling my house. It has been made impossible unless I sell for absolute pennies. The Council have thrown about a possibility of buying my house from me - they basically acknowledge I'm stuck otherwise.

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CarbonArtist · 25/09/2026 00:56

Tiramisu85 · 24/09/2026 23:32

This is just awful, were yous able to object to them being made into HMOs? Also the entitlement of them to not like shared accommodation and want to get themselves a flat or a house, they shouldn't even be in this country. Economic migrants the lot of them

My mum volunteered as a befriender for some Syrian refugees, families fleeing the civil war who came to Britain via legal routes.

Quite a few of them complained about the quality of the houses they were given. Seemed a bit cheeky to me. I’m sure a lot of unhoused British families would have been glad to have one of those homes!

Livelovebehappy · 25/09/2026 00:33

Nothing to ask, but feel sorry for you. This would be my worse nightmare….

nearlylovemyusername · 25/09/2026 00:27

OP, if there were a snap election tomorrow, which party would get your vote?

poetryandwine · 25/09/2026 00:26

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 00:16

No, it is only lush when topped up by tax free working!
I can see how one guy earning big money delivering food or drugs can tempt others on basic sustenance to join in!
Those who smoke cigarettes, weed and buy a Shisha pipe are not on £50 a week...

Haha.

Seriously, count me as another worried about your loft access. I wish you would raise this with your local authority.

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 00:24

MrsMoastyToasty · 25/09/2026 00:17

Does the landlord have an HMO licence? (It will be listed on your council website).

Yes, they have one. It was granted many moons ago with the landlord stating that they only intend to house three students, so no more people than bedrooms. Went to 5-6 students straight away, then a large family and now 5-6 asylum seekers.
The landlords are getting away with anything and the rules get bent as required. I doubt a permission to house 5-6 unrelated males would have ever been granted if they went with that initially.

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MrsMoastyToasty · 25/09/2026 00:17

Does the landlord have an HMO licence? (It will be listed on your council website).

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