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Living next to asylum seeker HMO, ask me anything

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JapanesePotWeed · 24/09/2026 20:28

As the title says. I live in a Victorian mid-terrace, wall-to-wall, garden-to-garden with an asylum seeker dispersal HMO. They were moved in nearly two years ago, replacing a multi-generation family that were living there before.
There is another HMO directly opposite my house, where asylum seekers get rooms once they are approved to remain but don't have an income to support themselves.

Not AIBU but more like AMA. I'm wondering what people would ask me if they really could ask anything. Does anyone actually want to know what it is like? I hear a lot of political point scoring in the media regarding this topic but no one actually talks to people like me!

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Fivebyfive2 · 25/09/2026 07:29

Thecows · 24/09/2026 21:41

Oh well that's just fine then isn't it ..

I mean I absolutely understand the issues surrounding these set ups, especially the secrecy and obvious chances of corruption and some of them causing trouble in the area... but getting snippy about some of them learning the language, trying to communicate in a civil war and hoping to have a fairly normal life where they can contribute seems a bit odd?

SaySomethingMan · 25/09/2026 07:28

Bringemout · 25/09/2026 07:16

I think we should up the offer to 20k-30k for anyone inside the country from a certain date, any number cheaper than the cost of forced deportation. Tbh even 50k would probably be a bargain for the UK. Run an amnnesty for anyone who entered the country before today and registered with the authorities.

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They would probably come back on another boat.It probably costs some people somewhere near that amount to get here from their home countries

SaySomethingMan · 25/09/2026 07:24

Onlyyoucanknow · 25/09/2026 07:19

Yeah poor them. Having their housing paid for. So not paying tax either. Then helping to block up our doctors surgeries, hospitals, dentists as well.

Living n a house either 5 or 6 other strangers in houses mostly in poor condition, away from friends and family.

SaySomethingMan · 25/09/2026 07:21

JapanesePotWeed · 24/09/2026 23:28

With "single" I mostly mean they don't have anyone with them when they arrive next door.
They do talk to families back home and it is mostly women that are on the phone (mums, wives?)
The guys in the HMO opposite have been in the country for a while and I never see any female visitors/ girlfriends. They sometimes have complained to me that it is very hard to live life in UK alone and that they'd like a wife. Do we even have enough culturally compatible women in this country to give these men any chance for a family life?! I suppose that is why they sneak back and bring a wife from their country...

You’d be surprised to find how many down the line will end up with white native women. It’s their quickest way to permanent residency and some of these women would be forever single otherwise.

Onlyyoucanknow · 25/09/2026 07:19

poetryandwine · 25/09/2026 00:01

Asylum seekers cannot claim benefits. Those in an HMO have housing expenses covered and receive a weekly welfare payment of £49.19. That is to cover all of their other expenses.

You can see why they pick up the illegal Deliveroo work.

Yeah poor them. Having their housing paid for. So not paying tax either. Then helping to block up our doctors surgeries, hospitals, dentists as well.

poetryandwine · 25/09/2026 07:19

Dragonscaledaisy · 25/09/2026 07:02

You obviously haven't read the latest UN report on the state of the asylum system in the UK under the Labour government - it's truly shocking what's been allowed to happen over the past two years. A significant number of cases are not being investigated thoroughly before asylum is granted, so the background and status of many claimants is never known.

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But the success rate is also falling all the time, and even successful claims will no longer come with permanent settlement.

Those are Labour results, too. Does the literature discuss them?

TheDaringFawn · 25/09/2026 07:18

Magicpaintbrush · 25/09/2026 07:10

OMFG, they can get into your loft from their side and potentially access your house??? That is horrific!

An old friend used to have student accomodation in a terraced house, where money, booze, straightners, playstation etc would go missing early 2000s. Never clicked tey were comkng in through the loft hatch when they were on nights out! Once they secured it, the theft stopped.

Bringemout · 25/09/2026 07:16

I think we should up the offer to 20k-30k for anyone inside the country from a certain date, any number cheaper than the cost of forced deportation. Tbh even 50k would probably be a bargain for the UK. Run an amnnesty for anyone who entered the country before today and registered with the authorities.

poetryandwine · 25/09/2026 07:16

samthepigeon · 25/09/2026 04:17

Can they really claim UC? I am surprised but happy to be proved wrong.

No, asylum seekers cannot but refugees can as discussed upthread.

Certain right wing politicians callbthe minimal stipend provid to adylum seekers a ‘benefit’. That amount is £49 plus change weekly for those who must provide their own food, and just under £10 weekly for those in accommodation providing food (of a kind).

Obviously tbere are no housing or utility bills, as OP says, but phones and phone contracts are not provided by HMG. All expenses including phones, food (if not provided), toiletries, transport and clothing must come out of this allowance or illegal earnings, as very, very few asylum seekers are allowed to work.

Magicpaintbrush · 25/09/2026 07:10

OMFG, they can get into your loft from their side and potentially access your house??? That is horrific!

Dragonscaledaisy · 25/09/2026 07:02

Pumpkindice · 24/09/2026 23:41

Most of the men I've known (through work) in this situation have families back home, and are hoping they'll get their asylum claims granted so they can get their own accommodation and apply to have their wives/children join them. It isnt usually an expectation to live alone, just not to live with strangers in a set up that you have no choice in.
If they're economic migrants they wouldn't be granted asylum and wouldn't have a route to gain accommodation.

You obviously haven't read the latest UN report on the state of the asylum system in the UK under the Labour government - it's truly shocking what's been allowed to happen over the past two years. A significant number of cases are not being investigated thoroughly before asylum is granted, so the background and status of many claimants is never known.

JimBobsWife · 25/09/2026 06:58

MixedBananas · 25/09/2026 06:12

Do you welcome them. Kind to them? A lot come from very disturbing situations bwxk home and need welcoming. I cwn not even beging to atart to relate or have a clue what horrora they lived through. Families they have witness die etc etc. I hope they are welcomed and make the best life for themselves.

The reality is that there are many economic migrants mixed in with genuine asylum seekers. People fleeing genuinely life threatening situations would not cross the channel.

pestowithwalnuts · 25/09/2026 06:47

Have you ever asked them why they wanted to come to the uk ?

Zanatdy · 25/09/2026 06:39

have you considered moving? I think I would, as a woman on my own (well 18yr old DD too).

I’d definitely look at trying to report that as a fire safety issue and get the contractor to sort it. Either way whoever lived next door, I wouldn’t feel safe with the fact someone could just access your house via the loft. I remember reading that story you mentioned too.

Rightsraptor · 25/09/2026 06:38

MixedBananas · 25/09/2026 06:12

Do you welcome them. Kind to them? A lot come from very disturbing situations bwxk home and need welcoming. I cwn not even beging to atart to relate or have a clue what horrora they lived through. Families they have witness die etc etc. I hope they are welcomed and make the best life for themselves.

Are you serious? Welcome them? You are seriously naive and I suggest you read the thread then sit down and have a think.

And be glad you're not facing this. Yet.

Be kind, my arse.

givemesteel · 25/09/2026 06:37

It would be interesting to get a couple of estate agents round to value your property. It would be useful to know if no one would touch it with a barge pole vs having a lot of interest from landlords.

See how much the council would pay you for it?

I'm not sure why you continue to live like this, but you do sound very stoical and resilient. I would be much less so.

SplishSplash123 · 25/09/2026 06:29

JapanesePotWeed · 24/09/2026 21:33

Yes, they can get in!
Doesn't help that I know of a case where a woman was shot with a crossbow and her husband killed by a neighbour (not an asylum seeker) who came in via the loft.
There should be a full wall for fire safety if nothing else but... I'll have to build it.The asylum contractors really will not help in any way!

The loft issue should have come up on your survey when you bought the house. It would be an issue with any neighbour, and you should fix it regardless of who lives there.

Do you not accept that some of this is the reality of having neighbours?! You could have UK born and bred next door, smoking weed, up at all hours etc.

Iamnotalemming · 25/09/2026 06:25

This is a fascinating thread, thank you for sharing OP.

Frumpitydoo · 25/09/2026 06:22

How much value has been knocked off the cost of your property since they moved here?

Why do you think the government are bringing in, and funding, all these men to this country?

MixedBananas · 25/09/2026 06:17

harveythehorse · 25/09/2026 02:35

Shocking. As is your statistic covering the number of properties that have been converted from family homes to HMOs

I'll bet that Lib Dem councillor and his family don't live in the streets which are all filled with refugee men. Awful, awful.

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These refugee men wouldn't be here if it was not for British invading and raping and medling in other countries business. You reap what you sow.
My HD uncle was in the army and he said where British forces are present currently. Places we are not told in the public. So we need to look at our government and tell them to wothdraw and comoensate abroad so these families can rebuild their lives.
Don't wwnt them here sropp fing up their country and stealing thwir reaources etc etc, etc.

MixedBananas · 25/09/2026 06:12

Do you welcome them. Kind to them? A lot come from very disturbing situations bwxk home and need welcoming. I cwn not even beging to atart to relate or have a clue what horrora they lived through. Families they have witness die etc etc. I hope they are welcomed and make the best life for themselves.

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/09/2026 04:54

JapanesePotWeed · 24/09/2026 22:31

Would have been the perfect house for women but...

Most stay close to a year. Some probably fall foul of some regulations and disappear sooner. Or do a runner.
I found a Home Office letter in my front garden recently. It contained a court decision to deport based on REPEAT history of offending. There were two cases associated with an individual : drug dealing/possession and fly-tipping. The letter went on about how criminal behaviour is not compatible with being "of good character". As such, a decision has been made to deport.
ALTERNATIVELY, the person could leave the country willingly and they will be given £2000 and a seat on a flight to do so...

Who knew!⬆️ We pay 2k to convicted criminals to leave willingly. What a strange country this is!

An enforced deportation costs £48,800 so £2000 plus flight is a bargain.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/average-cost-of-an-immigration-enforcement-return-fy-2024-to-2025/average-cost-of-an-immigration-enforcement-return-fy-2024-to-2025

carkey26 · 25/09/2026 04:37

This is really interesting, although also so sad and frustrating this is happening to people like you. thank you for sharing.

How long have you lived there? Do you have any children or is it just you?

samthepigeon · 25/09/2026 04:17

Maomee · 25/09/2026 00:04

Asylum seekers can claim benefits in the form of universal credit. There are certain routes where public funds shouldn't be allowed this is often ignored, and the whole immigration system is so messy that the majority of migrants-whether seeking asylum or not- end up being supported with UC because the UK is a very expensive country to live in and these people almost always do not have the resources to fund themselves.

Can they really claim UC? I am surprised but happy to be proved wrong.

samthepigeon · 25/09/2026 04:11

Dollymylove · 24/09/2026 22:18

And not a woman or a child in sight!!

They house women and children separately.

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