That it's a massive waste of time, effort, money, lives and we should just bring them over by coach and ferry.

no, I don't

OP - how do you know it was the toddler's Dad? Could be completely unrelated (although still awful)

I am really surprised that the EU has not centralised this migrant issue by arranging a central location where migrants are directed to e.g. perhaps setting up and paying a lower-income EU country to facilitate it. Any migrants who turn up in the UK etc. can be sent over there whilst being processed. Each EU country could pay into it.

Once there, the EU could decide where they are going and make sure all EU countries take their fair share. The UK could be part of this arrangement. After all, they are escaping war and danger right so they won't mind where they are sent. If they don't like it there, they can go back home.

...and to be told NO when / IF you got to your destination!

At least they have money and a plan. We seem to be getting there but slowly.

Our main issue is greedy men starting wars in other countries and making people refugees and their own countries inhospitable. Then right wing people wang on about making women and kids take the trip, so then they wang on about it all being men... The men who matter don't give a monkeys and just want the land.

I don't know about that lots of new builds going up where we are while schools are closing and we are told we have the lowest birthrates coming up so more schools will likely have to close from the state sector. We don't seem to have enough people buying the local properties already there so unsure why we need 6k more yet they keep building...

EU countries are dealing with similar. Hence some putting in restrictive policies.

But this is the whole point: they are coming from France, so they are no longer asylum seekers; they are economic migrants. There's nothing wrong with wanting to move to a more prosperous country to better your and your family's lives... but you obviously need to apply through the legitimate channels.

Let's just rejoin EU. Would have quite a few extra perks back at the same time.

Do they get flats etc in france, do they get immediate benefits?

Can they get jobs?

Do we take their fingerprints to check of they are known criminals?

Our LA is in financial trouble again. We already pay over 2k for a small 3 bed semi. Its over 7% of post tax average persons wage. Then theres rent.

I think the tv licence etc is the rumblings people are pretty fed up. No its not the fault of economoc migrants but its forcing the population to grow. So eg the LA is boildong on green elt but then also usong our money to build all the new roads and schools. just very locally 45 extra school spaces ic 4k each thats 180k not to mention the costs of enlarging buildings. 2k is a lot just for bin collection. Is actually 38 a week. (Bear in mind so much recycling that actual bins are 3 weeks) and we pay separately for green garden waste...
And then also the pension increase age for 3yrs men and 8 women so 11years. Its more than some have in their pensions.

But the ones who don't want to stay in France (or whom they turn away for whatever reason) are the ones that concern us. They've reached a safe, prosperous country and decided that they prefer a different one instead - so they are very obviously economic migrants; and thus they are no longer in any way justified in turning up as though they were still asylum seekers.

Economic migrants have to apply to the country that they wish to move to and wait for them to accept them. I imagine that, when making the decision as to whether or not to accept a would-be economic migrant's application, a country would instantly take a very dim view of somebody who had tried to force their way in illegally, in conjunction with criminal gangs. It's a bit like randomly turning up and demanding a job interview (without applying or being invited) steaming drunk and expecting them to choose you over all of the other sober, polite, well-presented candidates who did apply through the proper channels.

The issue with this is you’d not be able to supply enough places for the demand.

Can they try getting a coach back the other way instead of into here and that poor coach driver that would have to transport them aswell god help him and his life

I don’t want them in our country so no they can continue risking their life on boats in my opinion I don’t want them around my children taking over our towns and houses. There is plenty of safe country’s on the way to ours so why are they heading for us. I’ve not long driven past a hotel in my area they are all sat on the grass fsce covering for no reason they aren’t here for good reasons just selfish ones why can’t they stay and fight for their own country

Sure but you can't just get on a plane without a visa. You can't apply for asylum from your home country. So it's actually not that simple.

You can't get on a plane without a visa.
Are you not aware of this? Carriers are heavily fined if they bring in anyone without permission to enter UK.

Anyone who supports this utter nonsense clearly does not have girls. I have two teenage girls. This worries the life out of me. And no clearly not all are a danger but we have seen and continue to see what some are.

So ... like having a legal route to claim asylum in the UK from overseas? So that desperate people don't have to pay thousands to people traffickers and risk their lives in the channel? I mean ... yes this seems like an obvious choice to me. No hotel or barracks accommodation needed while applications are processed, so that's a cost saving. People who are approved arrive by legal means and immediately get a job and start paying tax, also great. We get to balance out our ageing population.

I mean..all of them?

The Berlin wall had barbed wire, snipers, dogs, booby traps - and people still got across.

Thank you!

Glad you asked. I’ve had them housed in my area for a while and I’m terrified for my Dd and nieces because they are groups of men who hang around trying to talk to young girls and befriend them. This country is currently a lottery because right now they are being dumped in the poor areas and anytime there’s a slight mention of them going to one of the richer areas there’s uproar so don’t talk to me about birth being a lottery when certain areas in this country are fast becoming no go ghettos.

I’d be surprised as well considering the FCDO are advising against travelling to all of Ukraine. Very irresponsible of the employer and difficult to get travel insurance.

If you can pay the traffickers then you can buy a plane ticket and enter the country safely and not put other people at risk when they have to rescue you.