Where do you think Jewish people come from?

The Palestinians and Israeli Jews are both direct descendants of the Canaanites (who included the Akkadians, Hittites and Jebusites).

this was published by the University of Tel Aviv
https://english.tau.ac.il/news/canaanites

Most of today’s Jewish and Arabic-speaking populations share a strong genetic link to the ancient Canaanites, according to a new study conducted by an international team of archaeologists and geneticists, including TAU’s Prof. Israel Finkelstein from the Department of Archaeology and Ancient Near Eastern Cultures.

The study concludes that modern-day groups in Lebanon, Israel and Jordan share a large part of their ancestry, in most cases more than half, with the people who lived in the Levant during the Bronze Age, more than 3,000 years ago.

The sanctions seem completely unworkable. How does the British government determine whether dates or honey or whatever is going through customs belong to a settler or not? Will they look at the name and say ‘that sounds Jewish so it can’t come in’ or ‘that sounds Muslim / Arab / Christian, so it can ’ If so, I find that really disturbing. Where does a Yemeni Jewish refugee who settled in the area some time ago sit in relation to these sanctions? What about the Muslim with an unusual name that’s not recognised? This thought experiment highlights the absurdity and unpleasantness of trying to sanction people for their ethnicity.

The resulting war was aimed at disabling Hamas, not at revenge. Claiming it was an eye for an eye is you projecting your views of Israel as a country.

The Arab survivors could try not constantly firing rockets at their more powerful neighbour for a bit, perhaps.

@ErroltheSwampDragon That was in the response to the comment "We don’t normally go round allocating land on the basis of who lived there 2000 years ago."

But whatever I'd have said, you would be determined to take offence. If you are looking for an apology you'll not get one.

They didn't start the most recent war as an expansion intent, despite claims on this thread - it was in response to the mass terrorist attack.

If you believe in an eye for an eye, as both cultures do, an appropriate response would've been approx 2,000 Palestinians killed or injured. It's been rather more than that. It wasn't a 'response' but an excuse.

As to 'what now?' - Fuck knows, but I'd take a guess that the richer side will defeat the other one. It already has, more or less. A new generation of Arab survivors, having grown up under attack, will convert their collective trauma into aggression and the whole thing will miserably continue in various forms.

The one likening Jews in Israel to Italians in Britain. One originates from that region and has had a continuous presence there ever since, the other hasn't.

Which of my comments in particular have done that?

I'm sure Israel would have preferred the previous two state solution deals were accepted, rather than having missiles launched over their heads on a daily basis. Do you not yet get it - Jews are out to be obliterated, wiped off the face of the earth. That is what FP means. @BlessedIsTheFruit you questioned me being on your thread.if you know certain posters from CITME and you know what an echo chamber it is, did you seriously expect this thread to go any other way?

Answer properly. Back your claims up.

That sounds great, but you're ignoring the fact that Israel's next door neighbours would like to wipe it out and reclaim the entire territory. They didn't start the most recent war as an expansion intent, despite claims on this thread - it was in response to the mass terrorist attack.

So what now?

This completely ignores the violent attacks on Israel and the reasons numerous peace efforts have failed. There is fault on both sides.

And yes, there are plenty of people who have very loudly been calling for the erasure of Israel and those "merely questioning" Israel's conduct have done very little to push back on this.

Read the news.

Lying about what?

Having said that, many Palestinians did suffer and this needs to be addressed.

Thanks for this acknowledgement, which many others seem unwilling to consider. From the UN:

In November 1947, the UN General Assembly passed a resolution partitioning Palestine into two states, one Jewish and one Arab, with Jerusalem under a UN administration. The Arab world rejected the plan, arguing that it was unfair and violated the UN Charter.

Jewish militias launched attacks against Palestinian villages, forcing thousands to flee. The situation escalated into a full-blown war in 1948, with the departure of British forces. The newly established Israeli forces launched a major offensive. The result of the war was the permanent displacement of more than half of the Palestinian population.

My own view is that this appalling situation can never be resolved. It's millennia old and both sides think they have a supernaturally-approved right to dominate. I take strong issue with this delusion, whoever holds it. No-one has a 'god given' right to a land, and OP's framing of it as an ancestral right is the same thing.

I am not the poster you quoted but I am sure, as well as me, they don't want Israel to stop existing. However, I would much rather Israel (or any other country) did not engage in military conflict to expand its territory and, instead lived peacefully alongside another ethnic and cultural group who also happened to have historical ties to the land. Baltic countries and many other former Soviet republics were essentially ethnically cleansed as part of Russification policy in interwar and post-war period. Yet, they live (mostly) peacefully alongside descendants of former "occupiers".
If everyone is going to get hysterical shouting "why don't you want Israel to exist" every time this is suggested or implied, then it's no wonder the region remains turbulent.

Notice you haven't responded to the evidence that your analogy completely erases the continuous presence of Jews in the region, or that such statements feed the hatred.

What do you mean by perpetuate them?

Well, it went over your head. That does not necessarily mean I made the point badly.

Jews originate in the Middle East (as far as I know) and absolutely deserve (and need) a sovereign homeland there.

Angry about double standards and blatant anti-semitism? You bet.

No, it already exists. See also Australia, the Americas, etc. Historical events can't be undone. This doesn't mean they were right, couldn't have been done better, or that it's advisable to perpetuate them.

You won't ever get them to outright admit to that. These protestors would rather carry banners saying Free Palestine with a virtuous derrmined look on their faces. How Palestine is going to be freed is an insight insigificant detail, so long as Israel doesn't exist.