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To be mortified and so upset about how this date ended?

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AmberCatz · 23/09/2026 10:04

I met a guy a couple of months ago and we've been out a few times. I posted before about the first date being 11 hours long (he kept extending the day and I was happy to spend time). But although there had been affection and some hand holding we hadn't kissed yet - so this did make me suspicious about his interest. Its been stressing me out really.

Last night we went to a show with my best friend and her boyfriend. Afterwards, he suggested we all grab a drink at a nearby pub. had a great time and because I was off work today we kept going (and drinking, bad move). Basically we talked about how we were both single and open, then I asked if he'd like to kiss and he leaned in and kissed me. We made out for a while and then went to another bar where he instigated another make out and put his arm around me etc.

I haven't slept with anyone in a year and was keen to take him home. So i suggested it and he said he was too tired and needed to sleep before work. I immediately read he just wasn't interested and it hurt but I brushed it off. He said we'll meet 'some other time'

As we were trying to get me a taxi he kept walking ahead and became super distant. Finally I was like what gives and he says 'I'm not looking for anything romantic right now'. I think I messed up here because I then said he owed me an apology for leading me on. He refused, and said there's nothing wrong for enjoying one night and kissing. We had not an argument but a kind of tiff.

I'm now dead from the worst hungover for ages and feel terrible about how we left things. We have each other on social media and several mutual friends - do I need to apologise? I also feel like I threw myself out him and he isn't attracted to me so that feels terrible also.

OP posts:
Venusunbroken · Yesterday 12:12

Yeah I just read your other threads op, even you were not sure if any of this was dates, you met once at an event, yes you spent 10 hours together at it, but there was no kissing etc, then you met for coffee and same again, and you thought maybe he just wanted to be your friend,

and then this, yes he kissed you etc, but I can’t see from your previous threads how you came to the conclusion he wanted to have a romantic relationship with you, it seems the drunk snogging has led you to believe that , and the third one, you were with your mates,

I think you had a desperate crush on this man, and are just embarassed, you wanted sex to seal the deal and he refused then told you firmly he didn’t want some romantic relationship,

I think just accept it, we all meet someone who we are more into than them us. It’s nothing about either person. Sometimes the chemistry just isn’t there for one person

TB23 · Yesterday 12:10

AmberCatz · Yesterday 11:24

While kissing, he pulled me tightly against him, groin to groin and squeezed my bum repeatedly. Hardly sweet and old fashioned? I invited him home because I thought he wanted to have sex because on how hot and heavy things were. He didn't want to and that's fine. We fell out when he said he didn't want romance. I was hurt by that. I've said this many times.

I agree with 'chalk it up to experience'. @TB23 we'd been out together three times and knew each other previously - this was the first time we kissed.

Edited

It obviously just didn't really click on a romantic level then and people send mixed signals. No point dwelling on it - who knows what else is going on in his life. Awkward that you have common friends, but it will likely be just as awkward for him, so no one will want to discuss it.

Piknik · Yesterday 11:58

LuckyHazelFox · 23/09/2026 10:13

He wouldn't have kissed you if he didn't fancy you. Don't play along with his games. Don't give him that power to have you judging your fancybility value.

I don't want to be unkind here, but he might have kissed her even if he didn't fancy her. I occasionally did it in my youth because it was easier to just go along with it.... And with beer goggles on, it's even more possible.

He is still an arse and I'm not saying he DOESN'T fancy OP, but I don't think you can assume he does just because he kissed her.

I'm sorry OP. It's hard when it's been a while and you feel invested but he is going to muck you about and make you feel shit. I'd move on.

LondonLass2026 · Yesterday 11:55

I've just seen another thread of yours dated 3rd Sept where you were both supposed to be 1. meeting for lunch, and then separately 2. a show.

Did either of those things happen?

DaughterofZion · Yesterday 11:49

The replies to this are bonkers and yall women saying he led are on need to give your heads a wobble. OP you initiated a kiss, he went along. 4 dates does not a relationship make. Plus nobody is entitled to sex even after snogging. Can only imagine if the roles were reversed here, the names the man would be called for being upset that the woman he’d been on 4 dates with refused to come home with him even after he said he had work and she’s clearly inebriated.
OP you’re clearly embarrassed and your ego is working overtime but YOU harassed him and not the other way round.

Ireallywantadoughnut36 · Yesterday 11:45

I wouldn't stress about it, sometimes it takes a while to figure out if the connection is there, i dont think either of you did much wrong its just taken a couple of dates and a few kisses to figure out what is there or not, and its not a reflection on you if he doesnt want a romantic connection. To be fair to him, it might not be that he doesn't fancy you or was messing you about, but instead that he wants to move more slowly or isn't great at talking to or explaining himself with women. I feel like if the genders were reversed and it went;
"Don't want to move fast, haven't kissed before and wasnt sure if i had a physical spark, kissed on our 4th date and it was great but then my date tried to get me back to his, I definitely wasn't ready for that and said I wasn't up for it and he said I owed him" - we'd all be "it's OK to move at your own pace, you don't owe him sex etc".
Suspect it's just awkwardness and crossed wires and he'll be as mortified as you. Try to move past it and not take it personally.

Goingncforthisone · Yesterday 11:45

I think you're valid in thinking he had led you along when he said he didn't want to get involved romantically.

However you keep talking about the bum groping as though it is a precursor to sex which I think is odd. As other posters have said, imagine if that was the other way round.

Venusunbroken · Yesterday 11:37

Sunbringer · Yesterday 11:35

She said they went on a first date. A date means they’ve begun dating. Dating is occurring.

Really? Hmm, you think everyone who goes on a first date is now officially dating? That’s an unusual view point.

Sunbringer · Yesterday 11:35

Venusunbroken · Yesterday 11:35

I’m not sure I’d class 3 dates in 3 months as dating someone,

She said they went on a first date. A date means they’ve begun dating. Dating is occurring.

Plumnora · Yesterday 11:35

You did nothing wrong. If he didn't want to kiss you he wouldn't have reciprocated the kiss and he's given you mixed messages.
Now you know who he is I'd chalk it up to experience and move on. He's a dick. Don't contact him again. Lick your wounds, nurse your embarrassment, laugh about it and find a guy who deserves you. X

Venusunbroken · Yesterday 11:35

Sunbringer · Yesterday 11:34

He dated you without the intention of actually dating you: you didn’t do anything wrong.

I’m not sure I’d class 3 dates in 3 months as dating someone,

Venusunbroken · Yesterday 11:34

Three times in three months isn’t relationship stuff and it sounds like he was just drunk and having fun,

Sunbringer · Yesterday 11:34

He dated you without the intention of actually dating you: you didn’t do anything wrong.

Agapornis · Yesterday 11:32

3 dates over 3 months?
To me that would be "he doesn't make time for me, he can piss off". Please raise your bar.

AmberCatz · Yesterday 11:24

While kissing, he pulled me tightly against him, groin to groin and squeezed my bum repeatedly. Hardly sweet and old fashioned? I invited him home because I thought he wanted to have sex because on how hot and heavy things were. He didn't want to and that's fine. We fell out when he said he didn't want romance. I was hurt by that. I've said this many times.

I agree with 'chalk it up to experience'. @TB23 we'd been out together three times and knew each other previously - this was the first time we kissed.

OP posts:
TB23 · Yesterday 11:21

It is what it is now, I would just move on. Maybe for this guy you just came on a bit strong. People are different. I have never kissed on a first date and certainly wouldn't have sex on the second. Doesn't mean that's wrong, just that people are different. Also goes for men.

Venusunbroken · Yesterday 10:34

PollyBell · Yesterday 02:10

Or he just didn't want a shag, so any man that says no to sex has to have something medically wrong with him thry have no right to turn a woman down?
If they do they have to be written off?

What I’m reading is

it’s ok for a drunk woman to snog a man and feel his arse, she does not then need to have full sex with him, she can say no and consent matters.

if a drunk man snogs a drunk woman and she asks him for sex and he says no, there is something very wrong with him, he is gay, has a micro penis, or ed. He has no right to consent. She is entitled to sex.

if a drunk man is asked to have sex with a drunk woman and does so, then as she’s very drunk, she can’t consent, so if she regrets it the next morning he is a rapist.

so for a woman if you kiss her and touch her arse she is entitled to sex. If she is drunk, then a man risks being branded a rapist the next day, if he says no. Then he has something wrong with him,

it’s utterly mind boggling. There is another thread on here where the op asks what’s wrong with her, she meets a man in the gym, snogs him for an hour and doesn’t proceed to sex as she’s on her period. She’s complaining men just want sex.

not one poster has said you snogged him so he was entitled to sex, your period is irrelevant, you cannot say no, if you do, then something is very wrong with you.

Venusunbroken · Yesterday 10:28

DaringQuoter · Yesterday 09:51

Or he just didn't want a shag, so any man that says no to sex has to have something medically wrong with him thry have no right to turn a woman down?
If they do they have to be written off?

In my experience no man has never turned down the opportunity for sex. And would be delighted that the woman suggested it. It’s a compliment! I find his reaction very strange- why suddenly turn cold and distant? I’m just suggesting it as a possibility because it’s unusual to behave as he did.

I find this so sad, that no matter how late, how drunk, what time they need to get up to work the next morning, the men you know would fuck a very drunk woman if asked.

i can assure you not all men are like this, many are decent,

BusyExpert · Yesterday 10:27

AmberCatz · 23/09/2026 10:04

I met a guy a couple of months ago and we've been out a few times. I posted before about the first date being 11 hours long (he kept extending the day and I was happy to spend time). But although there had been affection and some hand holding we hadn't kissed yet - so this did make me suspicious about his interest. Its been stressing me out really.

Last night we went to a show with my best friend and her boyfriend. Afterwards, he suggested we all grab a drink at a nearby pub. had a great time and because I was off work today we kept going (and drinking, bad move). Basically we talked about how we were both single and open, then I asked if he'd like to kiss and he leaned in and kissed me. We made out for a while and then went to another bar where he instigated another make out and put his arm around me etc.

I haven't slept with anyone in a year and was keen to take him home. So i suggested it and he said he was too tired and needed to sleep before work. I immediately read he just wasn't interested and it hurt but I brushed it off. He said we'll meet 'some other time'

As we were trying to get me a taxi he kept walking ahead and became super distant. Finally I was like what gives and he says 'I'm not looking for anything romantic right now'. I think I messed up here because I then said he owed me an apology for leading me on. He refused, and said there's nothing wrong for enjoying one night and kissing. We had not an argument but a kind of tiff.

I'm now dead from the worst hungover for ages and feel terrible about how we left things. We have each other on social media and several mutual friends - do I need to apologise? I also feel like I threw myself out him and he isn't attracted to me so that feels terrible also.

I can hear the screams of outrage as I write this but it is a big jump from kissing someone to having sex with them. It’s possible that he likes to take things slowly, that your eagerness for sex was off putting and gave out vibes that he did not admire. He may be a sweet old fashioned thing who thinks that the man should be the one to do the running?

He has as much right to his own views on life as you do. I think you should just accept it and chalk it up to experience

DaringQuoter · Yesterday 09:51

Or he just didn't want a shag, so any man that says no to sex has to have something medically wrong with him thry have no right to turn a woman down?
If they do they have to be written off?

In my experience no man has never turned down the opportunity for sex. And would be delighted that the woman suggested it. It’s a compliment! I find his reaction very strange- why suddenly turn cold and distant? I’m just suggesting it as a possibility because it’s unusual to behave as he did.

PollyBell · Yesterday 02:10

DaringQuoter · 25/09/2026 23:59

Has it occurred to you that he might suffer from erectile dysfunction? He might be a great kisser and was probably hoping something would happen ‘downstairs’ and it didn’t! You suggesting sex would have completely knocked him sideways if he realised he wouldn’t be able to. So, as always, attack is the best method of defence and he froze you out. I’m obviously not sure this is what happened, but it does seem like a possibility to me, given your description of the evening and previous dates. And, yes, I do speak from experience! But I was in the poor guy’s bed when I realised he just couldn’t. I was quite cross tbh when he said it happened a lot to him. I said “you might have warned me before you got me all steamed up” and he just said he hoped it would happen this time! You just never know OP and he’s not going to admit it. Don’t beat yourself up; it really wasn’t your fault 🥰

Or he just didn't want a shag, so any man that says no to sex has to have something medically wrong with him thry have no right to turn a woman down?
If they do they have to be written off?

LimitedAddition · Yesterday 02:03

Reading your posts I am pretty convinced you’d still love him to get in contact and pick things up again!

Just do not - and I repeat do not - contact him again and I do think you might still have a shot with him, since you are in the same circles and your paths will cross again naturally.

My reading of the situation (and I could be totally wrong) is that he really was into you but you came on too strong and it turned him off in the moment.

That is still salvageable though provided you don’t ever repeat it. The memory of it will fade with time and if he finds you hot he finds you hot.

I don’t think he is some terrible person. I do think saying he doesn’t want anything romantic is cruel and confusing after all that had gone before, but I would cut him some slack since he was drunk (and hopefully he will ultimately do the same for you).

Sorry you are feeling down, OP. We have all been where you are. This too shall
pass, one way or another.

DaringQuoter · 25/09/2026 23:59

Has it occurred to you that he might suffer from erectile dysfunction? He might be a great kisser and was probably hoping something would happen ‘downstairs’ and it didn’t! You suggesting sex would have completely knocked him sideways if he realised he wouldn’t be able to. So, as always, attack is the best method of defence and he froze you out. I’m obviously not sure this is what happened, but it does seem like a possibility to me, given your description of the evening and previous dates. And, yes, I do speak from experience! But I was in the poor guy’s bed when I realised he just couldn’t. I was quite cross tbh when he said it happened a lot to him. I said “you might have warned me before you got me all steamed up” and he just said he hoped it would happen this time! You just never know OP and he’s not going to admit it. Don’t beat yourself up; it really wasn’t your fault 🥰

superfrog2 · 25/09/2026 23:20

AmberCatz · 23/09/2026 10:04

I met a guy a couple of months ago and we've been out a few times. I posted before about the first date being 11 hours long (he kept extending the day and I was happy to spend time). But although there had been affection and some hand holding we hadn't kissed yet - so this did make me suspicious about his interest. Its been stressing me out really.

Last night we went to a show with my best friend and her boyfriend. Afterwards, he suggested we all grab a drink at a nearby pub. had a great time and because I was off work today we kept going (and drinking, bad move). Basically we talked about how we were both single and open, then I asked if he'd like to kiss and he leaned in and kissed me. We made out for a while and then went to another bar where he instigated another make out and put his arm around me etc.

I haven't slept with anyone in a year and was keen to take him home. So i suggested it and he said he was too tired and needed to sleep before work. I immediately read he just wasn't interested and it hurt but I brushed it off. He said we'll meet 'some other time'

As we were trying to get me a taxi he kept walking ahead and became super distant. Finally I was like what gives and he says 'I'm not looking for anything romantic right now'. I think I messed up here because I then said he owed me an apology for leading me on. He refused, and said there's nothing wrong for enjoying one night and kissing. We had not an argument but a kind of tiff.

I'm now dead from the worst hungover for ages and feel terrible about how we left things. We have each other on social media and several mutual friends - do I need to apologise? I also feel like I threw myself out him and he isn't attracted to me so that feels terrible also.

I selected being unreasonable BUT only because try not to over think things! I know lots of us to including myself and we can over analyze! I think if it’s right it should feel ok and you wouldn’t be questioning or second guessing yourself if that makes sense? Hang on in there you will meet the right person x good luck x

ChrisInghamStoleMyBeanie · 25/09/2026 22:45

people are allowed to be touchy feely, kiss, makeout etc without wanting to have sex that same night. Nobody owes you sex. Also, didn’t you say you was drunk? Very creepy behaviour from your end I can’t lie.