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AIBU not to wake my 20-year-old for early shifts?

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itsmeitsyou · 23/09/2026 07:21

DS 20 has a new job. It's full time in a factory and I am very happy for him as previous work has been mainly casual bar work.

He has struggled to get up for his shifts. He needs to be up by 5am to leave at 5.30am for public transport on a weekday for a 7am start. Weekend he starts at 6! Thankfully we have good transport links and he can get there.

Problem is one of us in the house is having to wake him. I don't want to get up at 4.30am on a weekend to get him up.

My sister (has no children) has called me selfish. As when she was asking about the new job I confessed I didn't know how he would manage the 6am starts on a Saturday. She said I need to get up and get him up, it's my duty as his parent!

YABU - help him get up on weekend
YANBU - he is 20 and needs to continue to learn natural consequences

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Jdh172 · 23/09/2026 21:21

I'm torn. Yes he should be able to get him self up but mums just do stuff for there kids because they love them so I probably would wake him and go back to bed. You want him to do well and keep his job.

Sobriety78 · 23/09/2026 21:10

Being a bit of a soft touch with the kids I would probably wake him up for a week or 2 while he settles into the routine, mainly due to the fact that I would wake up worrying that he hadnt. I would make it very clear that I was only helping out short term with that though.
Again being a massive soft touch, I would also sort his dinner for him before I went to bed.
My 2 are 100% capable of doing for themselves and will happily do so, its my preference to look after them.

maybemaybenot17363 · 23/09/2026 21:10

Pmsl. My DC have had me up the early hours for the past 10 years. At 20? I will buy them an alarm clock and wish them good luck

Tiredtaxpayer · 23/09/2026 20:58

x2boys · 23/09/2026 14:25

No but getting up at 7am for a lecture is very different to getting up at 4.30 am for a long journey on public transport to do a full days work in a factory .

He knew the job requirements when he signed up for it.
If he can't manage what is required then he should leave and let another young person have the job.

Iocanepowder · 23/09/2026 20:22

Acg1991 · 23/09/2026 19:14

The general attitude on here is wild to me - it's almost like as soon as your children hit 18 you should no longer do anything for them at all.
I'm 35 with 2 kids of my own and my parents still parent me sometimes!

This isn’t like not cleaning up after themselves at home or understanding how to pay bills.

He is 18 and therefore being paid an adult wage, so he needs to be professional and turn up to work on time without input from his parents.

FreddysFingers · 23/09/2026 20:09

He's 20! No way would I be getting him up.

G5000 · 23/09/2026 20:02

I can't believe the martyrdom here. Waking up for 'just a month' at 4.30 at my age would seriously affect my health. If it was my DC, I really hope they would not let me do anything like OPs sister suggests.

Bettyblue22 · 23/09/2026 20:00

Raise the kind of man who won’t expect his future partner to mother and manage him. He needs to get himself up at that age.

handsdownthebest · 23/09/2026 19:28

Acg1991 · 23/09/2026 19:14

The general attitude on here is wild to me - it's almost like as soon as your children hit 18 you should no longer do anything for them at all.
I'm 35 with 2 kids of my own and my parents still parent me sometimes!

And I still love parenting mine and the grand-children sometimes. One of my DC used to say to me ‘ can you tell dad I’m 27 now’. However, they know that we will always be here for the support when needed…and that’s what counts.

Acg1991 · 23/09/2026 19:14

The general attitude on here is wild to me - it's almost like as soon as your children hit 18 you should no longer do anything for them at all.
I'm 35 with 2 kids of my own and my parents still parent me sometimes!

SlothTigerMum · 23/09/2026 18:55

itsmeitsyou · 23/09/2026 07:27

This is what I have said. I get he is struggling with his body clock as he was doing more evening/late shifts at the pub so hasn't had early starts for a long time.

Why don't you help him for a month, while his body adjusts and then make it clear it is up to him after that. Surely you can be on Mum duty for a month, for a job you want him to succeed in?

HoraceCope · 23/09/2026 18:34

just do what is best for him and you
he may need a hand in the early days
you may automatically wake up

handsdownthebest · 23/09/2026 18:30

I find the whole let him fend him for himself, he’s 20, should be able to do it all by himself etc a bit disheartening on here.
I was also married at 20, mortgage etc training whilst in work then university with a 2 year old.
However, I also have to grown DC that couldn’t have been more different. One super organised, on the ball, academic and hugely capable. The other one, not so much, always needed a bit of helicoptering parenting even when at university. Hugely disorganised and needed support to find his first job.
Five years later, they have matured into a fully functioning adult with a great job in London, a flat and a partner. They just needed that extra bit of help and support.
DH and I would be devastated if we had not given him that support and just watched him fail.
Just give him a bit of time.
He will get there, along as he learns and appreciates the help and support.

ButterPiesAreGreat · 23/09/2026 17:47

DS is 21 and has been working for two years. He’s always started early through choice (flexitime) and I’ve never once got up to wake him up for work.

DD is 20 and has been working over the summer in a local branch of the shop she works in when she’s at uni. Some of her shifts started at 6.30 and she doesn’t drive so she had to get a bus to work which takes an hour. She is not a morning person and I still didn’t have to wake her up. When she’s at uni, some of her shifts start at 5am and she makes those too.

YANBU

He might get used to the early starts after a couple of weeks if he forces himself to get up.

MarlowCrossing · 23/09/2026 17:40

Ds has some app that you tell it what time you want to wake up and it tells you the best time to be asleep by, meaning you are woken when you are in light sleep not a deep sleep.

He gets straight out of bed and into the shower, no snoozing ever.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 23/09/2026 17:36

If his aunt is that invested she could come over to wake him up 😉

My dd worked shift hours and the only instruction I gave her was to be quiet when she was getting ready for work. Is he learning to drive? Just thinking that might buy him more time in the morning.

DraigCymraeg · 23/09/2026 17:28

itsmeitsyou · 23/09/2026 16:19

I have invested in a few alarms today.
An alarm for under the pillow and an alarm ⏰️ that I intend to set and put in a tin on other side of his room.

He has been getting his bag and lunch ready the night before, so all he needs to do it get up quick shower and go. I will chat with him further about his bed time routine.

You are doing well - the alarm clocks, he's preparing the night before.
Get the bedtime right, and he will be sorted!
All the best to your son.

Seajaye · 23/09/2026 16:38

itsmeitsyou · 23/09/2026 16:19

I have invested in a few alarms today.
An alarm for under the pillow and an alarm ⏰️ that I intend to set and put in a tin on other side of his room.

He has been getting his bag and lunch ready the night before, so all he needs to do it get up quick shower and go. I will chat with him further about his bed time routine.

I know he is twenty and should not need telling, but in case he does use his phone at night he really needs to not be scrolling on in his phone or gaming after 9.00 pm at night.

He might be wasting hours of good quality sleeping time, because he has not been able to get into deep sleep mode early enough because of brain activity triggered by the blue light emissions from screens , which might be affecting his ability to hear his alarms, if he is going into deep sleep later say at 4,30 am.

It's worth getting him to gen up on the body's Circadian rhythms and internal body clock and how to reset it , if he is struggling. Magnesium supplements sometimes aid quality of sleep as well.

itsmeitsyou · 23/09/2026 16:38

CombatBarbie · 23/09/2026 16:25

Why have you invested in the alarms?? This is hus responsibility.

He used the last of his pub wages to get a month's travel pass so he could get to the new job. He doesn't get paid before the shift to invest in one himself.

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CombatBarbie · 23/09/2026 16:25

itsmeitsyou · 23/09/2026 16:19

I have invested in a few alarms today.
An alarm for under the pillow and an alarm ⏰️ that I intend to set and put in a tin on other side of his room.

He has been getting his bag and lunch ready the night before, so all he needs to do it get up quick shower and go. I will chat with him further about his bed time routine.

Why have you invested in the alarms?? This is hus responsibility.

itsmeitsyou · 23/09/2026 16:23

Rooroobear · 23/09/2026 16:09

Fgs I was living on my own when I was 20! He needs to be able to sort himself out. He’s not a child. Even my children set alarms for school and get up themselves.

He was capable of doing this for college and school. He got up at 7/7.30am to leave by 8/8.15am
I had him, a part time job, studying and running a house at 20.

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itsmeitsyou · 23/09/2026 16:19

I have invested in a few alarms today.
An alarm for under the pillow and an alarm ⏰️ that I intend to set and put in a tin on other side of his room.

He has been getting his bag and lunch ready the night before, so all he needs to do it get up quick shower and go. I will chat with him further about his bed time routine.

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SweatySpider321 · 23/09/2026 16:13

itsmeitsyou · 23/09/2026 08:48

I would make this suggestion only she has a one bed flat so no chance of that.
It was a general conversation about how the kids and she called me selfish for not wanting to get up to get him up on my days off.

She has always been very vocal about how I parent - which annoys me as she is childless

Aaah l love it when people are the “best” at parenting but don’t actually have any children!

Rooroobear · 23/09/2026 16:09

Fgs I was living on my own when I was 20! He needs to be able to sort himself out. He’s not a child. Even my children set alarms for school and get up themselves.

itsmeitsyou · 23/09/2026 16:08

Dontlletmedownbruce · 23/09/2026 14:50

Tell your sister that you have a solution. You will wake him up at 4.30 but because you are a heavy sleeper, and apparently adults need to be woken by other adults, you will need her to wake you up so you can wake him. It would be cruel and selfish of her to not help her sister.

Thank you this made me giggle.

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